do people actually get banned from fake mass reporting?

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• Demonzfyre Member Posts: 22,631 ★★★★★

  January 21

  No. The fight data has to support there being a ban. A real person reviews those reports.

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• JLordVileJ Member Posts: 5,831 ★★★★★

  January 21

  No they don't lol

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• BringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,587 ★★★★★

  January 21

  What is your IGN? Lets try it!

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• Average_Desi Member Posts: 1,085 ★★★★

  January 21

  Can you link the reddit comments

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• Bendy Member Posts: 8,070 ★★★★★

  January 21

  Ironwarrior said:

  I read a few comments on reddit that said they know people did

  Oh reddit being new global its fake news every report gets reviewed

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• TotemCorruption Member Posts: 467 ★★★

  January 21

  The comments were posted on reddit, that should tell you all you need to know about their credibility...

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• Ironwarrior Member Posts: 33 ★

  January 21

  Average_Desi said:

  Can you link the reddit comments

  
  

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• Pikolu Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 8,132 Guardian

  January 21

  Ironwarrior said:

  Average_Desi said:

  Can you link the reddit comments

  
  

  Have you not seen the 100s of threads here of people who got banned "falsely"? People lie, all the time. Lots of people who get banned will lie and give a fake reason why they got banned (example: they got mass reported which is the onoy reason they got banned). This leads some people to assume that they are telling the truth which causes them to tell others that they know people who were banned for that reason.
  
  At the end of the day, those are just lies. Every report gets investigated by humans to determine if the person is cheating. They only ban from reports when they have undeniable evidence that the person is cheating.

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• TotemCorruption Member Posts: 467 ★★★

  January 21

  Pikolu said:

  Ironwarrior said:

  Average_Desi said:

  Can you link the reddit comments

  
  

  Have you not seen the 100s of threads here of people who got banned "falsely"? People lie, all the time. Lots of people who get banned will lie and give a fake reason why they got banned (example: they got mass reported which is the onoy reason they got banned). This leads some people to assume that they are telling the truth which causes them to tell others that they know people who were banned for that reason.
  
  At the end of the day, those are just lies. Every report gets investigated by humans to determine if the person is cheating. They only ban from reports when they have undeniable evidence that the person is cheating.

  Well said.
  Also, just for perspective, if mass troll reporting was actually successful in getting players banned, every top player and every content creator would get banned, because there are hundreds if not thousands of malcontents playing this game and abusing the report button. The game would be broken if mass reporting by itself resulted in bans.

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• SummonerNR Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 13,409 Guardian

  January 21

  Ironwarrior said:

  I read a few comments on reddit that said they know people did

  You have to read your screenshot more closely.
  They never said that it ACTUALLY resulted in someone being banned just from just “too many reports”.
  
  Basically just says people would hit “Report” because they “think” that the person had cheated, and if so they hope they get banned.
  
  As other said, still would get reviewed first.

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• SirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,802 ★★★★★

  January 21

  Only ban I remember that may have caused by reporting is Nick136's main account.

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• DNA3000 Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 20,181 Guardian

  January 21

  Ironwarrior said:

  I read a few comments on reddit that said they know people did

  "A guy on Reddit said they know something" is not what I would call strong evidence of something. For that matter the same holds for the forums. I would want some additional evidence to support that claim.
  
  Ask yourself this question: how would someone on Reddit actually know if someone was banned simply for being mass reported? How would they know that a) the person actually was mass reported, because reporting isn't public; b) the player was actually banned; and c) they weren't actually discovered to be cheating in actual fact?

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• Kabam Crashed Member, Game Team Game Team › Posts: 326 ★★★★★

  January 21

  This has never happened. The reporting system flags accounts, and some bans have resulted from reviews of those flags, but there is no system that automatically bans an account after a certain number of reports.

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• TotemCorruption Member Posts: 467 ★★★

  January 21

  Kabam Crashed said:

  This has never happened. The reporting system flags accounts, and some bans have resulted from reviews of those flags, but there is no system that automatically bans an account after a certain number of reports.

  Thanks for confirming. What about consequences for abusing the report button? If you're able to say. I understand if no.

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• klobberintyme Member Posts: 1,673 ★★★★

  January 21

  Kabam Crashed said:

  This has never happened. The reporting system flags accounts, and some bans have resulted from reviews of those flags, but there is no system that automatically bans an account after a certain number of reports.

  Related, you're only supposed to have one account on the message boards...
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  ...and reviving the exact same issues as your previous banned account did probably isn't wise in the long run.

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• kvirr Member Posts: 1,234 ★★★★

  January 21

  klobberintyme said:

  Kabam Crashed said:

  This has never happened. The reporting system flags accounts, and some bans have resulted from reviews of those flags, but there is no system that automatically bans an account after a certain number of reports.

  Related, you're only supposed to have one account on the message boards...
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  ...and reviving the exact same issues as your previous banned account did probably isn't wise in the long run.

  bros a master detective

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• SummonerNR Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 13,409 Guardian

  January 21

  klobberintyme said:

  
  Related, you're only supposed to have one account on the message boards...
  
  ...and reviving the exact same issues as your previous banned account did probably isn't wise in the long run.

  You mean Banquet related, lol.
  
  Noticeably, since there is one thread where 2nd forum account was very next comment to appear after a banned 1st account comment there.
  

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• captain_rogers Member Posts: 10,983 ★★★★★

  January 21

  Idk bout that but I certainly know people get banned for making death threats to kabam employees or players in forums.

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• Bendy Member Posts: 8,070 ★★★★★

  January 21 edited January 21

  captain_rogers said:

  Idk bout that but I certainly know people get banned for making death threats to kabam employees or players in forums.

  I wonder why because they shouldnt talk to people like that

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• DNA3000 Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 20,181 Guardian

  January 21

  TotemCorruption said:

  Kabam Crashed said:

  This has never happened. The reporting system flags accounts, and some bans have resulted from reviews of those flags, but there is no system that automatically bans an account after a certain number of reports.

  Thanks for confirming. What about consequences for abusing the report button? If you're able to say. I understand if no.

  All abuse anywhere is subject to disciplinary action, but the question would be determining what constitutes abuse. There's no obvious way to determine motive from a report.

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• TotemCorruption Member Posts: 467 ★★★

  January 21

  DNA3000 said:

  TotemCorruption said:

  Kabam Crashed said:

  This has never happened. The reporting system flags accounts, and some bans have resulted from reviews of those flags, but there is no system that automatically bans an account after a certain number of reports.

  Thanks for confirming. What about consequences for abusing the report button? If you're able to say. I understand if no.

  All abuse anywhere is subject to disciplinary action, but the question would be determining what constitutes abuse. There's no obvious way to determine motive from a report.

  Can't you infer motive from the circumstantial evidence? I used to be a mod on an unrelated forum, and if someone reported like a dozen comments or users and all of the reports were completely baseless, they would get a ban for abusing the report button.

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• Average_Desi Member Posts: 1,085 ★★★★

  January 21

  TotemCorruption said:

  DNA3000 said:

  TotemCorruption said:

  Kabam Crashed said:

  This has never happened. The reporting system flags accounts, and some bans have resulted from reviews of those flags, but there is no system that automatically bans an account after a certain number of reports.

  Thanks for confirming. What about consequences for abusing the report button? If you're able to say. I understand if no.

  All abuse anywhere is subject to disciplinary action, but the question would be determining what constitutes abuse. There's no obvious way to determine motive from a report.

  Can't you infer motive from the circumstantial evidence? I used to be a mod on an unrelated forum, and if someone reported like a dozen comments or users and all of the reports were completely baseless, they would get a ban for abusing the report button.

  What if it was someone who was just bad at the game and had trouble determining if it was a mod or not? You can't ban people for being bad at the game.

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• TotemCorruption Member Posts: 467 ★★★

  January 21

  Average_Desi said:

  TotemCorruption said:

  DNA3000 said:

  TotemCorruption said:

  Kabam Crashed said:

  This has never happened. The reporting system flags accounts, and some bans have resulted from reviews of those flags, but there is no system that automatically bans an account after a certain number of reports.

  Thanks for confirming. What about consequences for abusing the report button? If you're able to say. I understand if no.

  All abuse anywhere is subject to disciplinary action, but the question would be determining what constitutes abuse. There's no obvious way to determine motive from a report.

  Can't you infer motive from the circumstantial evidence? I used to be a mod on an unrelated forum, and if someone reported like a dozen comments or users and all of the reports were completely baseless, they would get a ban for abusing the report button.

  What if it was someone who was just bad at the game and had trouble determining if it was a mod or not? You can't ban people for being bad at the game.

  It’s pretty unlikely that someone would keep reporting others out of confusion. And even if they were that confused, at some point, if you keep spamming meritless reports, you're a problem. It wastes everyone’s time and hurts the system.

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• SummonerNR Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 13,409 Guardian

  January 21

  Oh, so totally opposite of what it sounded like you were saying at first (sooo many people reported someone, who was just good, but they ended up getting auto-banned) ???
  
  You’re saying, should there (or ARE there) consequences for some person to just hit Report on every single BG match they do ?
  **Well, maybe yes, there should be. As in filing a lot of false police reports.
  
  But how is that affecting you ?
  Were you one of those people “falsely” reported ? (And how would you even know ?)
  Or are you the person doing that, and wondering if you'll face consequences ?
  
  Or there is a concerted effort out there, by all the cheaters (even though they are cheating) of clogging up the reporting system with a bunch of reports of their own. Although wouldn’t that just result in Kabam looking at their matches (in which they were cheating), and be the opposite effect of them hoping it would overload the system.

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• Kabam Crashed Member, Game Team Game Team › Posts: 326 ★★★★★

  January 21

  SummonerNR said:

  Oh, so totally opposite of what it sounded like you were saying at first (sooo many people reported someone, who was just good, but they ended up getting auto-banned) ???
  
  You’re saying, should there (or ARE there) consequences for some person to just hit Report on every single BG match they do ?
  **Well, maybe yes, there should be. As in filing a lot of false police reports.
  
  But how is that affecting you ?
  Were you one of those people “falsely” reported ? (And how would you even know ?)
  Or are you the person doing that, and wondering if you'll face consequences ?
  
  Or there is a concerted effort out there, by all the cheaters (even though they are cheating) of clogging up the reporting system with a bunch of reports of their own. Although wouldn’t that just result in Kabam looking at their matches (in which they were cheating), and be the opposite effect of them hoping it would overload the system.

  This exact thing actually happened. I noticed there was a group of players who were reporting every single BG opponent. I was going to ban them with the "Contact Support" reason and get support to tell them to knock it off and unban them, but then I realized the reason they were doing it was to try to clog up the reporting system because they were cheating. So they ended up getting banned for real.

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• CROSSHAIRS Member Posts: 606 ★★

  January 21

  
  

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• Bendy Member Posts: 8,070 ★★★★★

  January 22

  Kabam Crashed said:

  SummonerNR said:

  Oh, so totally opposite of what it sounded like you were saying at first (sooo many people reported someone, who was just good, but they ended up getting auto-banned) ???
  
  You’re saying, should there (or ARE there) consequences for some person to just hit Report on every single BG match they do ?
  **Well, maybe yes, there should be. As in filing a lot of false police reports.
  
  But how is that affecting you ?
  Were you one of those people “falsely” reported ? (And how would you even know ?)
  Or are you the person doing that, and wondering if you'll face consequences ?
  
  Or there is a concerted effort out there, by all the cheaters (even though they are cheating) of clogging up the reporting system with a bunch of reports of their own. Although wouldn’t that just result in Kabam looking at their matches (in which they were cheating), and be the opposite effect of them hoping it would overload the system.

  This exact thing actually happened. I noticed there was a group of players who were reporting every single BG opponent. I was going to ban them with the "Contact Support" reason and get support to tell them to knock it off and unban them, but then I realized the reason they were doing it was to try to clog up the reporting system because they were cheating. So they ended up getting banned for real.

  Thats hilarious of a story i wish u put that as a message as would of been a classic forum post ban lol

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• DNA3000 Member, Guardian Guardian › Posts: 20,181 Guardian

  January 22

  Kabam Crashed said:

  SummonerNR said:

  Oh, so totally opposite of what it sounded like you were saying at first (sooo many people reported someone, who was just good, but they ended up getting auto-banned) ???
  
  You’re saying, should there (or ARE there) consequences for some person to just hit Report on every single BG match they do ?
  **Well, maybe yes, there should be. As in filing a lot of false police reports.
  
  But how is that affecting you ?
  Were you one of those people “falsely” reported ? (And how would you even know ?)
  Or are you the person doing that, and wondering if you'll face consequences ?
  
  Or there is a concerted effort out there, by all the cheaters (even though they are cheating) of clogging up the reporting system with a bunch of reports of their own. Although wouldn’t that just result in Kabam looking at their matches (in which they were cheating), and be the opposite effect of them hoping it would overload the system.

  This exact thing actually happened. I noticed there was a group of players who were reporting every single BG opponent. I was going to ban them with the "Contact Support" reason and get support to tell them to knock it off and unban them, but then I realized the reason they were doing it was to try to clog up the reporting system because they were cheating. So they ended up getting banned for real.

  If only one of them complained on the forums that they were banned without cause, I could have gotten scorigami on my blackout banning card.

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• BringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,587 ★★★★★

  January 22

  Kabam Crashed said:

  SummonerNR said:

  Oh, so totally opposite of what it sounded like you were saying at first (sooo many people reported someone, who was just good, but they ended up getting auto-banned) ???
  
  You’re saying, should there (or ARE there) consequences for some person to just hit Report on every single BG match they do ?
  **Well, maybe yes, there should be. As in filing a lot of false police reports.
  
  But how is that affecting you ?
  Were you one of those people “falsely” reported ? (And how would you even know ?)
  Or are you the person doing that, and wondering if you'll face consequences ?
  
  Or there is a concerted effort out there, by all the cheaters (even though they are cheating) of clogging up the reporting system with a bunch of reports of their own. Although wouldn’t that just result in Kabam looking at their matches (in which they were cheating), and be the opposite effect of them hoping it would overload the system.

  This exact thing actually happened. I noticed there was a group of players who were reporting every single BG opponent. I was going to ban them with the "Contact Support" reason and get support to tell them to knock it off and unban them, but then I realized the reason they were doing it was to try to clog up the reporting system because they were cheating. So they ended up getting banned for real.

  Come on man... It would have been an amazing friday post...
  "I got banned I don't get how I can be banned when I am the one reporting cheaters"...
  Would have been so much fun.

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• Bendy Member Posts: 8,070 ★★★★★

  January 22

  BringPopcorn said:

  Kabam Crashed said:

  SummonerNR said:

  Oh, so totally opposite of what it sounded like you were saying at first (sooo many people reported someone, who was just good, but they ended up getting auto-banned) ???
  
  You’re saying, should there (or ARE there) consequences for some person to just hit Report on every single BG match they do ?
  **Well, maybe yes, there should be. As in filing a lot of false police reports.
  
  But how is that affecting you ?
  Were you one of those people “falsely” reported ? (And how would you even know ?)
  Or are you the person doing that, and wondering if you'll face consequences ?
  
  Or there is a concerted effort out there, by all the cheaters (even though they are cheating) of clogging up the reporting system with a bunch of reports of their own. Although wouldn’t that just result in Kabam looking at their matches (in which they were cheating), and be the opposite effect of them hoping it would overload the system.

  This exact thing actually happened. I noticed there was a group of players who were reporting every single BG opponent. I was going to ban them with the "Contact Support" reason and get support to tell them to knock it off and unban them, but then I realized the reason they were doing it was to try to clog up the reporting system because they were cheating. So they ended up getting banned for real.

  Come on man... It would have been an amazing friday post...
  "I got banned I don't get how I can be banned when I am the one reporting cheaters"...
  Would have been so much fun.

  Title im banned why!!!!!!!!!!!! Info about the post so i was playing bgs saw sus times and health reported so why am i banned unban me now i spend money treat me better lol

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