Thoughts about Champions for 2025

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  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,505 ★★★★
    As for July, since First Steps is coming out , these choices are based on both are in the movie and could be tie ins. As for WonderMan I was definitely torn between June/November. I will think about it some more. Blue Marvel and Morgan Le Fay are predictions of mine due to them being the last 2 champions from the Summoner's Choice 2020 and who knows Kabam may bring one, both or neither, but considering how many other Summoner's Choice Champions who didn't win have come in they do have a serious chance.

    Spiderwoman and Morgan Le Fay do have connection from the comics so just thought if we get a spiderverse champion that does come I feel Spiderwoman is defintely high on the list consider all the spiderverse champions we have had come into the game.

    I also really feel there is a great possibility of Hobgoblin and Lizard coming in. October would be perfect for both champions, community would be excited to have them and I believe at least one of them has been teased aka Oscorp Lab. Not to mention there could be an interesting story how Hobgoblin has a conflict with Osborn or wishes to cause trouble and release Lizard. That is purely what idea of sort I think would be cool and could work.
  • Ant_WarriorAnt_Warrior Member Posts: 188
    I always thought First Steps was a Franklin and Valeria shoe in, but maybe Doom 2099 as another candidate since all 3 are heavily F4 and more known than those two.

    October, yeah Lizard I can see otw with how much people say his name and all that.

    Blue Marvel and Le Fay are fair and the connection to Drew and Fay I didn't know, would've said Ben Reily moreso for that tho I'm not too sure about Hob Gobby so maybe Ben could be added there with the whole idea of October's Side Quests being clones and monsters which'd make sense tho Hobbers is a more October themed guy.
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 192 ★★
    So, knowing how c likes to play with champions who have not yet come out in the "guessing game" type, I found a hint of the imminent arrival of two champions who will appear either in 2025 or early 2026. It was the same with the Bastion. The first time I noticed hints of it was in a global event, in the title. A little later in the monthly story, there was a conversation about a certain Bastion fortress. And now he's in the game. Kabam doesn't do anything for nothing. this is a direct confirmation of their imminent arrival.

    Кошмар и Эхо, добро пожаловать в мир битвы!

    Nightmare and Echo, welcome to the world of battle!



  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 192 ★★
    Кстати, теперь почти с 90% уверенностью думаю, что Кошмар придёт в октябре 2025. Он идеально подходит под хэллоуин, и определённо, будет тем самым единственным мистиком в этом году.
  • Sundance_2099Sundance_2099 Member Posts: 3,623 ★★★★★



    And isn't Wonder-Man's show in November/December?

    December, but that's irrelevant. They have never done a D+ show based tie in when the show was on.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★



    Here is my revised Predictions in light of new information. I agree Thane would be a contender. One other champion I've consider is Vulcan. Thought since we have Gladiator it could be another character connected to the Shi'ar Empire especially as they have their own connection to the Phoenix Force.

    Thank you all for the continued dialogue on this topic.

    Blue Marvel is 10000% science
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★

    So, knowing how c likes to play with champions who have not yet come out in the "guessing game" type, I found a hint of the imminent arrival of two champions who will appear either in 2025 or early 2026. It was the same with the Bastion. The first time I noticed hints of it was in a global event, in the title. A little later in the monthly story, there was a conversation about a certain Bastion fortress. And now he's in the game. Kabam doesn't do anything for nothing. this is a direct confirmation of their imminent arrival.

    Кошмар и Эхо, добро пожаловать в мир битвы!

    Nightmare and Echo, welcome to the world of battle!



    Echo literally just lost summoners choice, she's not coming until at least next year, besides that special echo is the name of an effect that the phoenix buff has
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 192 ★★

    So, knowing how c likes to play with champions who have not yet come out in the "guessing game" type, I found a hint of the imminent arrival of two champions who will appear either in 2025 or early 2026. It was the same with the Bastion. The first time I noticed hints of it was in a global event, in the title. A little later in the monthly story, there was a conversation about a certain Bastion fortress. And now he's in the game. Kabam doesn't do anything for nothing. this is a direct confirmation of their imminent arrival.

    Кошмар и Эхо, добро пожаловать в мир битвы!

    Nightmare and Echo, welcome to the world of battle!



    Echo literally just lost summoners choice, she's not coming until at least next year, besides that special echo is the name of an effect that the phoenix buff has
    I wrote above that this mechanic could be called anything, but for some reason nets kabam chose echo. So I'm betting on the end of the year or the beginning of 2026. Frankly speaking, these summoner elections have become useless. One way or another, it's all going to happen. The champion won the vote or lost, there is no difference anymore. You can safely dislike my dissenters, I don't care. I know that with such hints, kabam teaser the arrival of the nightmare and Echo.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★

    So, knowing how c likes to play with champions who have not yet come out in the "guessing game" type, I found a hint of the imminent arrival of two champions who will appear either in 2025 or early 2026. It was the same with the Bastion. The first time I noticed hints of it was in a global event, in the title. A little later in the monthly story, there was a conversation about a certain Bastion fortress. And now he's in the game. Kabam doesn't do anything for nothing. this is a direct confirmation of their imminent arrival.

    Кошмар и Эхо, добро пожаловать в мир битвы!

    Nightmare and Echo, welcome to the world of battle!



    Echo literally just lost summoners choice, she's not coming until at least next year, besides that special echo is the name of an effect that the phoenix buff has
    I wrote above that this mechanic could be called anything, but for some reason nets kabam chose echo. So I'm betting on the end of the year or the beginning of 2026. Frankly speaking, these summoner elections have become useless. One way or another, it's all going to happen. The champion won the vote or lost, there is no difference anymore. You can safely dislike my dissenters, I don't care. I know that with such hints, kabam teaser the arrival of the nightmare and Echo.
    It's called echo because your build them by repeating special attacks. For all intents and purposes it's keeping an echo of previous special attacks and using them in future ones. This isn't some deep hint, and they've already stated that losers of summoners choice won't come for at least a year and half after the vote
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 192 ★★

    So, knowing how c likes to play with champions who have not yet come out in the "guessing game" type, I found a hint of the imminent arrival of two champions who will appear either in 2025 or early 2026. It was the same with the Bastion. The first time I noticed hints of it was in a global event, in the title. A little later in the monthly story, there was a conversation about a certain Bastion fortress. And now he's in the game. Kabam doesn't do anything for nothing. this is a direct confirmation of their imminent arrival.

    Кошмар и Эхо, добро пожаловать в мир битвы!

    Nightmare and Echo, welcome to the world of battle!



    Echo literally just lost summoners choice, she's not coming until at least next year, besides that special echo is the name of an effect that the phoenix buff has
    I wrote above that this mechanic could be called anything, but for some reason nets kabam chose echo. So I'm betting on the end of the year or the beginning of 2026. Frankly speaking, these summoner elections have become useless. One way or another, it's all going to happen. The champion won the vote or lost, there is no difference anymore. You can safely dislike my dissenters, I don't care. I know that with such hints, kabam teaser the arrival of the nightmare and Echo.
    It's called echo because your build them by repeating special attacks. For all intents and purposes it's keeping an echo of previous special attacks and using them in future ones. This isn't some deep hint, and they've already stated that losers of summoners choice won't come for at least a year and half after the vote
    And that's why last year the title was given to a Bastion, rather than say a Fortress, Citadel, Fort, etc. and suddenly the Bastion itself comes. Remember one simple thing. Kabam doesn't do everything by accident.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 7,058 ★★★★★

    So, knowing how c likes to play with champions who have not yet come out in the "guessing game" type, I found a hint of the imminent arrival of two champions who will appear either in 2025 or early 2026. It was the same with the Bastion. The first time I noticed hints of it was in a global event, in the title. A little later in the monthly story, there was a conversation about a certain Bastion fortress. And now he's in the game. Kabam doesn't do anything for nothing. this is a direct confirmation of their imminent arrival.

    Кошмар и Эхо, добро пожаловать в мир битвы!

    Nightmare and Echo, welcome to the world of battle!



    Echo literally just lost summoners choice, she's not coming until at least next year, besides that special echo is the name of an effect that the phoenix buff has
    I wrote above that this mechanic could be called anything, but for some reason nets kabam chose echo. So I'm betting on the end of the year or the beginning of 2026. Frankly speaking, these summoner elections have become useless. One way or another, it's all going to happen. The champion won the vote or lost, there is no difference anymore. You can safely dislike my dissenters, I don't care. I know that with such hints, kabam teaser the arrival of the nightmare and Echo.
    It's called echo because your build them by repeating special attacks. For all intents and purposes it's keeping an echo of previous special attacks and using them in future ones. This isn't some deep hint, and they've already stated that losers of summoners choice won't come for at least a year and half after the vote
    And that's why last year the title was given to a Bastion, rather than say a Fortress, Citadel, Fort, etc. and suddenly the Bastion itself comes. Remember one simple thing. Kabam doesn't do everything by accident.
    Your reading way too much into things homie.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★

    So, knowing how c likes to play with champions who have not yet come out in the "guessing game" type, I found a hint of the imminent arrival of two champions who will appear either in 2025 or early 2026. It was the same with the Bastion. The first time I noticed hints of it was in a global event, in the title. A little later in the monthly story, there was a conversation about a certain Bastion fortress. And now he's in the game. Kabam doesn't do anything for nothing. this is a direct confirmation of their imminent arrival.

    Кошмар и Эхо, добро пожаловать в мир битвы!

    Nightmare and Echo, welcome to the world of battle!



    Echo literally just lost summoners choice, she's not coming until at least next year, besides that special echo is the name of an effect that the phoenix buff has
    I wrote above that this mechanic could be called anything, but for some reason nets kabam chose echo. So I'm betting on the end of the year or the beginning of 2026. Frankly speaking, these summoner elections have become useless. One way or another, it's all going to happen. The champion won the vote or lost, there is no difference anymore. You can safely dislike my dissenters, I don't care. I know that with such hints, kabam teaser the arrival of the nightmare and Echo.
    It's called echo because your build them by repeating special attacks. For all intents and purposes it's keeping an echo of previous special attacks and using them in future ones. This isn't some deep hint, and they've already stated that losers of summoners choice won't come for at least a year and half after the vote
    And that's why last year the title was given to a Bastion, rather than say a Fortress, Citadel, Fort, etc. and suddenly the Bastion itself comes. Remember one simple thing. Kabam doesn't do everything by accident.
    Hulkling had shape-shift charges 3 years ago and we still haven't gotten mystique though lmao. There's a difference between teases in game dialogue and titles and the names of abilities. You're reading way way too much into this, even ignoring that echo lost the vote
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★

    As for July, since First Steps is coming out , these choices are based on both are in the movie and could be tie ins. As for WonderMan I was definitely torn between June/November. I will think about it some more. Blue Marvel and Morgan Le Fay are predictions of mine due to them being the last 2 champions from the Summoner's Choice 2020 and who knows Kabam may bring one, both or neither, but considering how many other Summoner's Choice Champions who didn't win have come in they do have a serious chance.

    Spiderwoman and Morgan Le Fay do have connection from the comics so just thought if we get a spiderverse champion that does come I feel Spiderwoman is defintely high on the list consider all the spiderverse champions we have had come into the game.

    I also really feel there is a great possibility of Hobgoblin and Lizard coming in. October would be perfect for both champions, community would be excited to have them and I believe at least one of them has been teased aka Oscorp Lab. Not to mention there could be an interesting story how Hobgoblin has a conflict with Osborn or wishes to cause trouble and release Lizard. That is purely what idea of sort I think would be cool and could work.

    I still think it's way too early to say with most of these. We had the lizard tease for a while and while it's possible there's nothing indicating a specific month for him. I think predicting this far in advance without a roadmap is a little too much at the moment, especially given how surprising a lot of updates tend to be
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,505 ★★★★
    I understand your reasoning @WednesdayLength , but still the fact they have planned things out. A statement from Vin_Cent said in the discord when I asked him a question is where I getting this from, " I have things planned out far into the future. I am currently uncertain when we shall tease those plans."

    With that I see there is planning far further than we know, could be until December, could be shorter or could be longer. He said he is uncertain when they shall tease, but didn't say they won't tease it.

    @WednesdayLength I know we've had plenty of dialogue in here and you know I respect your thoughts, opinions and so my response I hope in this post is not seen as disrespect, but just giving my personal thoughts.

    I enjoy predicting and like doing so in light of information given and inferences (whether from Livestreams or discord chats, etc.).

    Everyone please remember in this discussion based on what we know, we each draw our inferences just make sure in the process to not be disrespectful, remember all of us are giving opinions not actual facts as none of work at Kabam that I'm aware of.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★

    I understand your reasoning @WednesdayLength , but still the fact they have planned things out. A statement from Vin_Cent said in the discord when I asked him a question is where I getting this from, " I have things planned out far into the future. I am currently uncertain when we shall tease those plans."

    With that I see there is planning far further than we know, could be until December, could be shorter or could be longer. He said he is uncertain when they shall tease, but didn't say they won't tease it.

    @WednesdayLength I know we've had plenty of dialogue in here and you know I respect your thoughts, opinions and so my response I hope in this post is not seen as disrespect, but just giving my personal thoughts.

    I enjoy predicting and like doing so in light of information given and inferences (whether from Livestreams or discord chats, etc.).

    Everyone please remember in this discussion based on what we know, we each draw our inferences just make sure in the process to not be disrespectful, remember all of us are giving opinions not actual facts as none of work at Kabam that I'm aware of.

    I don't doubt that champions are planned possibly more than a year in advance, my point is that there isn't any indication of specific months. I don't doubt that lizard is going to enter the game eventually, but why October?
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,505 ★★★★
    I would say the type of champions they have done multiple times in October deals with a monsters, scary/horror type. We have had Werewolf by Night, Elsa Bloodstone, Scream, Jack O Lantern. This is why I feel it would best fit for him to come in.

    Thank you for asking and as always appreciate the dialogue.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,505 ★★★★


    Correct Blue Marvel's class type. Still just keep wondering if there is a better prediction for going in September along with Mr. Knight. Will update when and if something comes to mind.

  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★

    I would say the type of champions they have done multiple times in October deals with a monsters, scary/horror type. We have had Werewolf by Night, Elsa Bloodstone, Scream, Jack O Lantern. This is why I feel it would best fit for him to come in.

    Thank you for asking and as always appreciate the dialogue.

    But lizard feels like a stretch for that definition
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★



    Correct Blue Marvel's class type. Still just keep wondering if there is a better prediction for going in September along with Mr. Knight. Will update when and if something comes to mind.

    Whoever comes with Mr Knight likely won't be connected to him at all. It's likely going to be some kind of vaguely daredevil/ moon Knight related character but not specifically Mr Knight
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,505 ★★★★
    I see what you mean, but I'm sure whoever it is will have some connection to each of the champions. I say cause as they choose the summoner's choice champions they knew there would be a second champion and what champion has ties in some ways to all of them, more to some and less to others obviously.

    Curious why do you find Lizard a stretch even by way of fitting the horror/scary halloween theme? @RichTheMan also has a video where there was a comment about Lizard about him coming into the sooner into the game than later from Gabriel Frizzera.

    Link to video with this, granted the video was 4 years ago (May 2020), but consider some other names mentioned: Scorpion, and Jackal. Of those three two of them have come in. Not only that, but the Lizard being in the background has now been in game almost a year.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=-Nyht-yBumI

    Thank you for the questions you ask as it probes my thoughts deeper about this topic and consider other variables.
  • Ant_WarriorAnt_Warrior Member Posts: 188



    Correct Blue Marvel's class type. Still just keep wondering if there is a better prediction for going in September along with Mr. Knight. Will update when and if something comes to mind.

    Whoever comes with Mr Knight likely won't be connected to him at all. It's likely going to be some kind of vaguely daredevil/ moon Knight related character but not specifically Mr Knight
    The whole voting thing was based on Martial Arts and Swords and currently Lin Lie is the most notable member who evidently uses both
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,443 ★★★★★
    How did Wonder Man become Mutant? He should be Science. Speaking of that,

    Kabam, maybe we can get a Science champ that doesn't inflict debuffs this year? That class is getting locked deeper and deeper into the tiny Science = debuffs box with every release. Passives or only instant effects would be nice for a badly needed departure from the on the cusp of boring class archetype rigidity.
  • Sundance_2099Sundance_2099 Member Posts: 3,623 ★★★★★
    edited 5:43AM
    WM should definitely be science. So too Red Ghost.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★

    I see what you mean, but I'm sure whoever it is will have some connection to each of the champions. I say cause as they choose the summoner's choice champions they knew there would be a second champion and what champion has ties in some ways to all of them, more to some and less to others obviously.

    Curious why do you find Lizard a stretch even by way of fitting the horror/scary halloween theme? @RichTheMan also has a video where there was a comment about Lizard about him coming into the sooner into the game than later from Gabriel Frizzera.

    Link to video with this, granted the video was 4 years ago (May 2020), but consider some other names mentioned: Scorpion, and Jackal. Of those three two of them have come in. Not only that, but the Lizard being in the background has now been in game almost a year.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=-Nyht-yBumI

    Thank you for the questions you ask as it probes my thoughts deeper about this topic and consider other variables.

    There's been virtually no connection began any characters that have come with summoners choice winners before.

    You think a 4 year old comment is proving a point? If anything that just further pushes the fact that people keep expecting him and he keeps not being used. I feel like Halloween is far more likely to be characters that are more directly monster related of which there are many, I just don't think there's any evidence that that month is going to be those characters beyond you wanting them to be there
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★



    Correct Blue Marvel's class type. Still just keep wondering if there is a better prediction for going in September along with Mr. Knight. Will update when and if something comes to mind.

    Whoever comes with Mr Knight likely won't be connected to him at all. It's likely going to be some kind of vaguely daredevil/ moon Knight related character but not specifically Mr Knight
    The whole voting thing was based on Martial Arts and Swords and currently Lin Lie is the most notable member who evidently uses both
    Uh, that feels like a bit of a stretch
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,271 ★★★★

    WM should definitely be science. So too Red Ghost.

    I feel like red ghost would be skill
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 7,058 ★★★★★

    WM should definitely be science. So too Red Ghost.

    I feel like red ghost would be skill
    He should be science. He got his powers the exact same way fantastic four did.
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 192 ★★

    So, knowing how c likes to play with champions who have not yet come out in the "guessing game" type, I found a hint of the imminent arrival of two champions who will appear either in 2025 or early 2026. It was the same with the Bastion. The first time I noticed hints of it was in a global event, in the title. A little later in the monthly story, there was a conversation about a certain Bastion fortress. And now he's in the game. Kabam doesn't do anything for nothing. this is a direct confirmation of their imminent arrival.

    Кошмар и Эхо, добро пожаловать в мир битвы!

    Nightmare and Echo, welcome to the world of battle!



    Echo literally just lost summoners choice, she's not coming until at least next year, besides that special echo is the name of an effect that the phoenix buff has
    I wrote above that this mechanic could be called anything, but for some reason nets kabam chose echo. So I'm betting on the end of the year or the beginning of 2026. Frankly speaking, these summoner elections have become useless. One way or another, it's all going to happen. The champion won the vote or lost, there is no difference anymore. You can safely dislike my dissenters, I don't care. I know that with such hints, kabam teaser the arrival of the nightmare and Echo.
    It's called echo because your build them by repeating special attacks. For all intents and purposes it's keeping an echo of previous special attacks and using them in future ones. This isn't some deep hint, and they've already stated that losers of summoners choice won't come for at least a year and half after the vote
    And that's why last year the title was given to a Bastion, rather than say a Fortress, Citadel, Fort, etc. and suddenly the Bastion itself comes. Remember one simple thing. Kabam doesn't do everything by accident.
    Hulkling had shape-shift charges 3 years ago and we still haven't gotten mystique though lmao. There's a difference between teases in game dialogue and titles and the names of abilities. You're reading way way too much into this, even ignoring that echo lost the vote
    Maybe, maybe everything will be fine, someone will be pleasantly surprised (:
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 192 ★★
    edited 12:29PM
    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 594 ★★★



    Correct Blue Marvel's class type. Still just keep wondering if there is a better prediction for going in September along with Mr. Knight. Will update when and if something comes to mind.

    I think we should start by identifying potential participants in the synergy "from The Ashes" at Jean's. I think it could be either Madelyne Pryor, or Hope, or Rachel Summers. But we only need to choose one, which may join this year, so
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