Three Days Left

CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★
edited March 21 in General Discussion

And I still have no desire to play...
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  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★
    edited March 16

    Lol..
    1- ???
    2- could be improved.
    3- how does this affect you at all?
    4- lol score more than 15k points.
    5- they are not really that long...
    6- ... That would make BGs even more annoying.
    7- you are not even close to top tankings being in Diamond, not sure how this affects u...

    If you don't understand the implications of the listed points, I suggest you awknowledge how they affect the game mode as a whole.
    A good start point might be to stop criticizing things from your own perspective.

    Needless to say, if I'm currently in Diamond its because I have chosen to not play the game mode. In it's current state, I have no motivation to play at all.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★

    CesarSV7 said:

    Lol..
    1- ???
    2- could be improved.
    3- how does this affect you at all?
    4- lol score more than 15k points.
    5- they are not really that long...
    6- ... That would make BGs even more annoying.
    7- you are not even close to top tankings being in Diamond, not sure how this affects u...

    If you don't understand the implications of the listed points, I suggest you awknowledge how they affect the game mode as a whole.
    A good start point might be to stop criticizing things from your own perspective.

    Needless to say, if I'm currently in Diamond its because I have chosen to not play the game mode. In it's current state, I have no motivation to play at all.
    None of the points you have descripted seem motivationals.
    Are you a casual player? If the answer is yes, than that's the reason why they don't seem motivational from where you are standing.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,666 ★★★★★
    CesarSV7 said:

    No changes for next season so I will be taking a break from the game. I personally careless about rewards and more so about an improvement to the game mode itself.

    1) Take away all RNG aspects.
    2) Eliminate loading times, that should not count as fight time.
    3) Remove the decline button.
    4) Remove the pause button.
    5) Increase actual matchmaking limits, no player should wait for more than 1min to find a match.
    6) Add a defense and offense mastery setup like in AW.
    7) Throw in a prize champ for top rankings.

    It looks like likes your more burnt out than having fun in general your haven’t played for fun. Try that’s
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★
    edited March 16

    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    Lol..
    1- ???
    2- could be improved.
    3- how does this affect you at all?
    4- lol score more than 15k points.
    5- they are not really that long...
    6- ... That would make BGs even more annoying.
    7- you are not even close to top tankings being in Diamond, not sure how this affects u...

    If you don't understand the implications of the listed points, I suggest you awknowledge how they affect the game mode as a whole.
    A good start point might be to stop criticizing things from your own perspective.

    Needless to say, if I'm currently in Diamond its because I have chosen to not play the game mode. In it's current state, I have no motivation to play at all.
    None of the points you have descripted seem motivationals.
    Are you a casual player? If the answer is yes, than that's the reason why they don't seem motivational from where you are standing.
    No I am not, are you?
    I mean you don't wanna do Epoch (you made a post about it), you don't have motivation to play BGs and that's the reason why you are in Diamond. Exactly what are you so active on? Arenas?...
    Well, if you're a competitive player you should understand that competitive game modes should be based on skill and not reliant on rng factors.

    Draft is rng, champions displayed while using shuffles are also rng (which reminds me that the same champs shouldn't appear while using shuffles).

    Having to go first or last on champion placements can give you the upper hand in a match and that's also rng.

    Defenders holding block for too long or not throwing specials can stall a fight longer than it's meant to be, therefore, if your opponent has a cooperative AI defender and you don't, you can loose the match and that can be seen as rng defender interaction.

    And just to answer your question, atm I'm more active explaining you the RNG aspects of the game mode which you apparently do not understand. :wink:
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★
    edited March 16

    CesarSV7 said:

    No changes for next season so I will be taking a break from the game. I personally careless about rewards and more so about an improvement to the game mode itself.

    1) Take away all RNG aspects.
    2) Eliminate loading times, that should not count as fight time.
    3) Remove the decline button.
    4) Remove the pause button.
    5) Increase actual matchmaking limits, no player should wait for more than 1min to find a match.
    6) Add a defense and offense mastery setup like in AW.
    7) Throw in a prize champ for top rankings.

    The only one I agree with is the second one. Loading times shouldn't count as fight times.
    Decline and pause buttons are often exploited in non sportsmanship ways. Players should not pause a match in order to win and they shouldn't decline to match fix. Which also reminds me I forgot to add match restart which is also exploited.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★

    Oh god its the epoch 1 minute attention span dude.

    No comments, glad you stopped by.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★
    Gamer said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    No changes for next season so I will be taking a break from the game. I personally careless about rewards and more so about an improvement to the game mode itself.

    1) Take away all RNG aspects.
    2) Eliminate loading times, that should not count as fight time.
    3) Remove the decline button.
    4) Remove the pause button.
    5) Increase actual matchmaking limits, no player should wait for more than 1min to find a match.
    6) Add a defense and offense mastery setup like in AW.
    7) Throw in a prize champ for top rankings.

    It looks like likes your more burnt out than having fun in general your haven’t played for fun. Try that’s
    I actually do appreciate your comment, thanks. There is some truth to your words and that's because I haven't been ranking the champions I like to play, mostly because of how current point system works in BGs. I like to play suicide friendly champs for the most part.

    However I have fun competing and BGs is my current focus. I honestly don't care about content: Acts, EQ, SQ, Incursions, Arenas, End game, etc. that is not fun to me.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 1,159 ★★★
    This is just a game

    If you are not having fun den don't play the game, don't force yourself to play or just don't touch a certain mode

    If the rewards aren't attractive to you, you don't need to play that mode

    Life is more than just mcoc, find another game or go do some other stuff like read a book, watch a movie, sleep early, exercise etc
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 977 ★★★
    CesarSV7 said:

    No changes for next season so I will be taking a break from the game. I personally careless about rewards and more so about an improvement to the game mode itself.

    1) Take away all RNG aspects.
    2) Eliminate loading times, that should not count as fight time.
    3) Remove the decline button.
    4) Remove the pause button.
    5) Increase actual matchmaking limits, no player should wait for more than 1min to find a match.
    6) Add a defense and offense mastery setup like in AW.
    7) Throw in a prize champ for top rankings.

    Stop being delusional 😤

    ""Your points are just to break the game ""
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,680 ★★★★
    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    Lol..
    1- ???
    2- could be improved.
    3- how does this affect you at all?
    4- lol score more than 15k points.
    5- they are not really that long...
    6- ... That would make BGs even more annoying.
    7- you are not even close to top tankings being in Diamond, not sure how this affects u...

    If you don't understand the implications of the listed points, I suggest you awknowledge how they affect the game mode as a whole.
    A good start point might be to stop criticizing things from your own perspective.

    Needless to say, if I'm currently in Diamond its because I have chosen to not play the game mode. In it's current state, I have no motivation to play at all.
    None of the points you have descripted seem motivationals.
    Are you a casual player? If the answer is yes, than that's the reason why they don't seem motivational from where you are standing.
    No I am not, are you?
    I mean you don't wanna do Epoch (you made a post about it), you don't have motivation to play BGs and that's the reason why you are in Diamond. Exactly what are you so active on? Arenas?...
    Well, if you're a competitive player you should understand that competitive game modes should be based on skill and not reliant on rng factors.

    Draft is rng, champions displayed while using shuffles are also rng (which reminds me that the same champs shouldn't appear while using shuffles).

    Having to go first or last on champion placements can give you the upper hand in a match and that's also rng.

    Defenders holding block for too long or not throwing specials can stall a fight longer than it's meant to be, therefore, if your opponent has a cooperative AI defender and you don't, you can loose the match and that can be seen as rng defender interaction.

    And just to answer your question, atm I'm more active explaining you the RNG aspects of the game mode which you apparently do not understand. :wink:
    So you have a problem with how the entirety of mcoc functions. Good luck getting it fixed
  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 1,143 ★★★★

    CesarSV7 said:

    No changes for next season so I will be taking a break from the game. I personally careless about rewards and more so about an improvement to the game mode itself.

    1) Take away all RNG aspects.
    2) Eliminate loading times, that should not count as fight time.
    3) Remove the decline button.
    4) Remove the pause button.
    5) Increase actual matchmaking limits, no player should wait for more than 1min to find a match.
    6) Add a defense and offense mastery setup like in AW.
    7) Throw in a prize champ for top rankings.

    The only one I agree with is the second one. Loading times shouldn't count as fight times.
    Probably a tech thing they can’t do anything about.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★

    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    Lol..
    1- ???
    2- could be improved.
    3- how does this affect you at all?
    4- lol score more than 15k points.
    5- they are not really that long...
    6- ... That would make BGs even more annoying.
    7- you are not even close to top tankings being in Diamond, not sure how this affects u...

    If you don't understand the implications of the listed points, I suggest you awknowledge how they affect the game mode as a whole.
    A good start point might be to stop criticizing things from your own perspective.

    Needless to say, if I'm currently in Diamond its because I have chosen to not play the game mode. In it's current state, I have no motivation to play at all.
    None of the points you have descripted seem motivationals.
    Are you a casual player? If the answer is yes, than that's the reason why they don't seem motivational from where you are standing.
    No I am not, are you?
    I mean you don't wanna do Epoch (you made a post about it), you don't have motivation to play BGs and that's the reason why you are in Diamond. Exactly what are you so active on? Arenas?...
    Well, if you're a competitive player you should understand that competitive game modes should be based on skill and not reliant on rng factors.

    Draft is rng, champions displayed while using shuffles are also rng (which reminds me that the same champs shouldn't appear while using shuffles).

    Having to go first or last on champion placements can give you the upper hand in a match and that's also rng.

    Defenders holding block for too long or not throwing specials can stall a fight longer than it's meant to be, therefore, if your opponent has a cooperative AI defender and you don't, you can loose the match and that can be seen as rng defender interaction.

    And just to answer your question, atm I'm more active explaining you the RNG aspects of the game mode which you apparently do not understand. :wink:
    So if its not based on RNG you would want the full deck? And draft 7 from it?.. Have you ever thought on the disadvantage it would cause too?
    Do you believe that one player gets a good AI and one player doesn't?
    I don't think you understand anything at all and should get off your pony.
    You are the same guy who said didn't open 7* for 6 months and concentrates on grinding arenas to rank 6*... I think I told you back then you would be playing a constant game of catch up. I guess I was right Mr Non Casual player.

    Once again, competitive game modes should NOT be rng reliant, think on actual solutions. I don't believe, I KNOW defenders have different AI. All it takes for you to understand this, is to play a mirror match multiple times
    .

    At this point you are trying to derail the topic because you don't have sustained arguments against my suggestions... I have not pushed for a 6* in arenas for around 8 months and don't even complete arena milestones anymore. 6*s are dead for the most part in competitive game modes and it doesn't take a genius to understand I will be playing a constant game of catch-up because I do not spend on this game.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★
    Asher1_1 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    No changes for next season so I will be taking a break from the game. I personally careless about rewards and more so about an improvement to the game mode itself.

    1) Take away all RNG aspects.
    2) Eliminate loading times, that should not count as fight time.
    3) Remove the decline button.
    4) Remove the pause button.
    5) Increase actual matchmaking limits, no player should wait for more than 1min to find a match.
    6) Add a defense and offense mastery setup like in AW.
    7) Throw in a prize champ for top rankings.

    Stop being delusional 😤

    ""Your points are just to break the game ""
    How would any of the points break the game? Lol
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 8,155 ★★★★★
    edited March 16
    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    Lol..
    1- ???
    2- could be improved.
    3- how does this affect you at all?
    4- lol score more than 15k points.
    5- they are not really that long...
    6- ... That would make BGs even more annoying.
    7- you are not even close to top tankings being in Diamond, not sure how this affects u...

    If you don't understand the implications of the listed points, I suggest you awknowledge how they affect the game mode as a whole.
    A good start point might be to stop criticizing things from your own perspective.

    Needless to say, if I'm currently in Diamond its because I have chosen to not play the game mode. In it's current state, I have no motivation to play at all.
    None of the points you have descripted seem motivationals.
    Are you a casual player? If the answer is yes, than that's the reason why they don't seem motivational from where you are standing.
    No I am not, are you?
    I mean you don't wanna do Epoch (you made a post about it), you don't have motivation to play BGs and that's the reason why you are in Diamond. Exactly what are you so active on? Arenas?...
    Well, if you're a competitive player you should understand that competitive game modes should be based on skill and not reliant on rng factors.

    Draft is rng, champions displayed while using shuffles are also rng (which reminds me that the same champs shouldn't appear while using shuffles).

    Having to go first or last on champion placements can give you the upper hand in a match and that's also rng.

    Defenders holding block for too long or not throwing specials can stall a fight longer than it's meant to be, therefore, if your opponent has a cooperative AI defender and you don't, you can loose the match and that can be seen as rng defender interaction.

    And just to answer your question, atm I'm more active explaining you the RNG aspects of the game mode which you apparently do not understand. :wink:
    So if its not based on RNG you would want the full deck? And draft 7 from it?.. Have you ever thought on the disadvantage it would cause too?
    Do you believe that one player gets a good AI and one player doesn't?
    I don't think you understand anything at all and should get off your pony.
    You are the same guy who said didn't open 7* for 6 months and concentrates on grinding arenas to rank 6*... I think I told you back then you would be playing a constant game of catch up. I guess I was right Mr Non Casual player.

    Once again, competitive game modes should NOT be rng reliant, think on actual solutions. I don't believe, I KNOW defenders have different AI. All it takes for you to understand this, is to play a mirror match multiple times
    .

    At this point you are trying to derail the topic because you don't have sustained arguments against my suggestions... I have not pushed for a 6* in arenas for around 8 months and don't even complete arena milestones anymore. 6*s are dead for the most part in competitive game modes and it doesn't take a genius to understand I will be playing a constant game of catch-up because I do not spend on this game.
    There is only 1 point that makes sense out of the 7, and thats the loading time one.
    Well if you stopped doing arenas for almost 8 months and are f2p you are going to play beyond catch up...
    No arena, no BG, don't care about act content, EQ, SQ, End game... I ask again. Why did question if I was a casual player, when it seems that You are extremely casual?
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★

    CesarSV7 said:

    No changes for next season so I will be taking a break from the game. I personally careless about rewards and more so about an improvement to the game mode itself.

    1) Take away all RNG aspects.
    2) Eliminate loading times, that should not count as fight time.
    3) Remove the decline button.
    4) Remove the pause button.
    5) Increase actual matchmaking limits, no player should wait for more than 1min to find a match.
    6) Add a defense and offense mastery setup like in AW.
    7) Throw in a prize champ for top rankings.


    Doesn't agree with most of pts

    1) RNG is fun Aspect of BG if it got removed there will be no fun everyone will draft same champs and never got a chance to learn new matchups or new champs kits
    2 ) I agree but not easy depends upon internet and device
    3) doesn't matter sometime decline button actually useful ( suppose u started a match an urgent call came to you from someone or nature 🤣)

    4)Bruh pause button only works maybe in low tier of bg like below gold or plat & actually if someone is pausing it is good for us cause we only need 15k above pts to hit

    5) maybe this can be improved especially in glad circuit as sometime it take long time but in victory track it never taken above 1 minute for me

    6) absolutely No I doesn't see any reason to do that I mean why would u want that there is already seperate mastery setup for bg

    7) It only benifits to players who are in celestial level unless u thinking kabam to be that generous that they gonna give a champ on reaching Glad circuit

    Bg is still based on skill no matter what u say
    a player can't reach mysterium or celestial just based on their roster
    Having a big roster helps for sure but it is no way easy to reach the top without having skills.

    What I think Bg actually needs is rewards update of both solo and ally event including rank rewards & buff to store for valiants
    1) I can understand RNG being a "Fun" asset to the game mode for you. However, if you push for top rankings you'll often face the fact that although you may have counters in your deck for certain champs like Serpent and they just don't appear during your draft, you'll most likely loose that match without being able to do anything about it.

    2) That's the whole point, loading times shouldn't count towards actual fight time. Device and internet connection shouldn't be a winning factor.

    3) Like I said this is often used to match fix or "secure" rankings during last few hours of every season.

    4) You're actually wrong here. Depending on the metas, you can even see Mysterium and Celestial players pausing to win the match, especially during power gain metas. We'll take Serpent as an example again, when out drafted, they take him down to 1% HP and then pause the match finishing with 45k points (100% HP = 15k and 29.9k Defender health). Sometimes this gives them the win if in the meantime you face the same scenario, don't pause and you get sp3d.

    5) I am talking about GC and Mysterium above tiers, not VT.

    6) This is a long to reply point but basically, it helps strategize in better ways, makes slower champs a viable attack option, eliminates to a certain degree the feeling of playing a draft dependant game mode.

    7) This is exactly the point, to give top solo players and top ranked alliances a reason to push for.

    And yes, rewards should also be improved periodically. They will improve them in the near future, what I am more worried about is the game mode itself.
  • NoahSansmanNoahSansman Member Posts: 129

    Lol..
    1- ???
    2- could be improved.
    3- how does this affect you at all?
    4- lol score more than 15k points.
    5- they are not really that long...
    6- ... That would make BGs even more annoying.
    7- you are not even close to top tankings being in Diamond, not sure how this affects u...

    With 4 it's not just the points they score, it's the fact that you have to wait the full 2 minutes.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 275 ★★

    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    Lol..
    1- ???
    2- could be improved.
    3- how does this affect you at all?
    4- lol score more than 15k points.
    5- they are not really that long...
    6- ... That would make BGs even more annoying.
    7- you are not even close to top tankings being in Diamond, not sure how this affects u...

    If you don't understand the implications of the listed points, I suggest you awknowledge how they affect the game mode as a whole.
    A good start point might be to stop criticizing things from your own perspective.

    Needless to say, if I'm currently in Diamond its because I have chosen to not play the game mode. In it's current state, I have no motivation to play at all.
    None of the points you have descripted seem motivationals.
    Are you a casual player? If the answer is yes, than that's the reason why they don't seem motivational from where you are standing.
    No I am not, are you?
    I mean you don't wanna do Epoch (you made a post about it), you don't have motivation to play BGs and that's the reason why you are in Diamond. Exactly what are you so active on? Arenas?...
    Well, if you're a competitive player you should understand that competitive game modes should be based on skill and not reliant on rng factors.

    Draft is rng, champions displayed while using shuffles are also rng (which reminds me that the same champs shouldn't appear while using shuffles).

    Having to go first or last on champion placements can give you the upper hand in a match and that's also rng.

    Defenders holding block for too long or not throwing specials can stall a fight longer than it's meant to be, therefore, if your opponent has a cooperative AI defender and you don't, you can loose the match and that can be seen as rng defender interaction.

    And just to answer your question, atm I'm more active explaining you the RNG aspects of the game mode which you apparently do not understand. :wink:
    So if its not based on RNG you would want the full deck? And draft 7 from it?.. Have you ever thought on the disadvantage it would cause too?
    Do you believe that one player gets a good AI and one player doesn't?
    I don't think you understand anything at all and should get off your pony.
    You are the same guy who said didn't open 7* for 6 months and concentrates on grinding arenas to rank 6*... I think I told you back then you would be playing a constant game of catch up. I guess I was right Mr Non Casual player.

    Once again, competitive game modes should NOT be rng reliant, think on actual solutions. I don't believe, I KNOW defenders have different AI. All it takes for you to understand this, is to play a mirror match multiple times
    .

    At this point you are trying to derail the topic because you don't have sustained arguments against my suggestions... I have not pushed for a 6* in arenas for around 8 months and don't even complete arena milestones anymore. 6*s are dead for the most part in competitive game modes and it doesn't take a genius to understand I will be playing a constant game of catch-up because I do not spend on this game.
    There is only 1 point that makes sense out of the 7, and thats the loading time one.
    Well if you stopped doing arenas for almost 8 months and are f2p you are going to play beyond catch up...
    No arena, no BG, don't care about act content, EQ, SQ, End game... I ask again. Why did question if I was a casual player, when it seems that You are extremely casual?
    Bro seriously, this is getting beyond annoying.

    I am a very active player who has fun in this game while pushing his limits in order to reach top tier ranks in BGs game mode. The current state of lack of meaningful GAME MODE REWARDS and GAME MODE IMPROVEMENTS have drained all my motivation to keep playing this game mode and therefore the game as a whole.

    I currently don't care how many end game recycled content is released, I don't care which new champs are released and definitely don't care about playing the same old boring and tedious EQ, AQ, Incursions and Arena game modes that have had no improvement updates for years. Throwing in the next chase resources is not a game mode update that is a reward update.

    If you are an end game Valiant competitive player, content is only seen as a CHORE which provides you with the rewards to keep pushing on game modes. We, for the most parte, tackle all that content asap just to get rid of it and invest 95% of our playing time on Game Modes.
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 977 ★★★
    CesarSV7 said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    No changes for next season so I will be taking a break from the game. I personally careless about rewards and more so about an improvement to the game mode itself.

    1) Take away all RNG aspects.
    2) Eliminate loading times, that should not count as fight time.
    3) Remove the decline button.
    4) Remove the pause button.
    5) Increase actual matchmaking limits, no player should wait for more than 1min to find a match.
    6) Add a defense and offense mastery setup like in AW.
    7) Throw in a prize champ for top rankings.

    Stop being delusional 😤

    ""Your points are just to break the game ""
    How would any of the points break the game? Lol
    All 7 - i don't know about your roaster but clearly if u play descent enough , u can get to VT easily

    Many just do that in 2hr stream 🤷 that shows u are way to behind or u suck
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 1,746 ★★★★★
    Now that the Council of Davids has gone dark, I’m glad OP has stepped up with a cracked Sunday thread.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 8,155 ★★★★★

    Now that the Council of Davids has gone dark, I’m glad OP has stepped up with a cracked Sunday thread.

    Its church day for Branch Davidians.
  • Gentsy12Gentsy12 Member Posts: 118 ★★
    It’s a step up to be honest: “I’m a f2p endgame player that wants to autofight epoch without doing arena for units and didn’t realize that you can’t enter a quest (apothecary) while in another quest (epoch)” is so much more entertaining than “global squid game season 6 reminder 172”
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