Nightmare Raids Compensation Should Be For Everyone

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  • FinalfurykFinalfuryk Member Posts: 429 ★★★
    Happy for the compensation. My group 100%ed the Raid and I did like 98% of the damage to Apoc between my two accounts largely because I wanted my guys to get the full rewards. After spending a significant amount on Nightmare Raids I had made the decision to not try them again. Between the compensation and the fixes, I feel like this will make me dive in again. This is the best mea culpa we’ve had from Kabam in a long time and makes me happy that there is some real motion on them making positive changes.
  • Yagami9999Yagami9999 Member Posts: 172
    BHAWKS said:

    My alliance decided not to join Nightmare raids because everyone said it was bugged. I’m an end game player and feel like a part of the community is completely missing out because we decided to hold back. This was a chance for Kabam to give back to the whole community considering what’s going on.

    What do you think?

    While i sympathize with you missing out the reward
    You didn't throw your phone when you were fighting KORG with 9x thorns and KORG kept ignoring my parry and keep going unblockable and unstoppable......
    and in the end, i only manage 1% damage.......

    just saying
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,124 ★★★★★
    404Jacker said:

    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:
    First things first, Nightmare Raids clearly didn’t hit the standard we hold ourselves to, and we remain committed to hitting that high mark. With that said, let’s talk about compensation, shall we?

    All Summoners who partook in Nightmare Raids, whether completed or not, will be receiving...

    The following Compensation Package:
    180 Raid Tickets
    1 Light Essence
    1 Titan Crystal (a jackpot in the final Nightmare Chest)
    1 7-Star Crystal
    5,000,000 Gold
    2 T6CC Crystals
    1 T4A Catalyst
    5,000 Glory

    Of these, many of the rewards are reasonable, but compensation for 180 raid tickets is an overkill. Nightmare participants can participate in Nightmare Raid with no participation fee, and have obtained these rewards.
    We take part in our regular raid maps and, as usual, pay 180 raid tickets. The rewards were as usual.

    If only Nightmare Raid participants had been informed in advance that 180 tickets would be distributed later, we would have participated in Nightmare Raid.
    It is unfair that Nightmare Raid participants will receive a reward with no participation fee. Please also distribute 180 raid tickets to regular raid map participants.

    So....you wanted someone to have a crystal ball and predict not only that bugs would happen, but the compensation as well....because you feel people that didn't spend anything on said bugged content are owed the same compensation that those who did are getting?
    Am I in The Twilight Zone?
  • 404Jacker404Jacker Member Posts: 5

    404Jacker said:

    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:
    So....you wanted someone to have a crystal ball and predict not only that bugs would happen, but the compensation as well....because you feel people that didn't spend anything on said bugged content are owed the same compensation that those who did are getting?
    Am I in The Twilight Zone?

    I think I wrote it poorly. I'm sorry.
    My opinion is that I'm not dissatisfied with the entire compensation, just the 180 raid tickets.
    If the 180 raid tickets are returned as compensation, then essentially, you're receiving the reward without paying the participation fee. That's what I wanted to say about excessive compensation.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,570 ★★★★

    Can someone tell me when the next Nightmare Raids will happen? Thanks

    Asking again.
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 361 ★★

    Crys23 said:

    Good luck. I'm still waiting for compensation from a canceled concert that I had no plans of ever purchasing a ticket for. Stingy people won't even return my calls anymore.

    Fyre Festival? I'm waiting too. Although I didn't know about it till years later, I still want compensation😀
    I want compensation for that too after watching the documentary...
    I was the second signature on a class action lawsuit against that documentary for emotional distress and wasted time. It's a big rush knowing that right now I'll get half the payout.
    Let's start a GoFundMe
    I think we would have to call it a GoFundUs if we do it together. We will be trailblazers.
    Community funded class action payouts. We're gonna be rich.
    Lets call it GoFundThem then... I rather be able to detach myself in case if flops cause its stupid.
    It will inevitably become a pyramid scheme, but those at the top are usually fine.
    Its those ppl at the bottom that really lose lol
  • Yagami9999Yagami9999 Member Posts: 172

    Can someone tell me when the next Nightmare Raids will happen? Thanks

    Asking again.
    Nightmare Raids will be the same period as normal raids
    Technically it's 3 weeks normal AQ
    then follow by 1 week RAID / Nightmare RAID

    Raids should return on 14th April 2025 USA time
    12th May 2025
    09th June 2025
    07th July 2025
  • Adri5846Adri5846 Member Posts: 190 ★★
    DNA3000 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pandingo said:


    To clarify. THIS level of compensation just going out to the teams that dove in is insane. Thats a huge advantage over other people. Our alliance KNEW there would be bugs so we waited out joining and didnt join only because we were told not to. If wed have known theyd give us all that?!?! Of course we would have joined. Im not saying that the people who did it dont deserve more. But most higher tier players are ten year players who know how kabam releases go and avoided it BECAUSE of the bugs. So give them the compensation for items and resourses used absolutely. But everybody who participated in raids should get the crystal compensation. They missed out on the opportunity for rewards also. They just chose to avoid it instead of waste resourses.

    The whole point of doing content as early you can so that if it's buggy you can get compensated for something in return 🤣

    If you are NOT affected by any bugs
    Why are you crying for handouts?
    I think the point is we've been BURNED so many times with being plagued with terribly buggy, tuned wrong, etc early content, where we DONT get any sort of compensation that it's understandable that many people were nervous to enter after the problems were apparent because this kind of recognition and compensation *rarely* happens.
    That point doesn't get you to those people deserve compensation for something they didn't do, however. The people who did attempt it took the risk that things might go wrong, and if they did there was no guarantee they would be compensated for that. The people who decided to sit it out got exactly what they wanted.

    One of the best arguments. The allys that decided to not do NRaids they took advantage of the allys that decided to try it and be the testers.

    We enter the firts day (wanst any comp announced) and managed to full explore it despite the buggs. We didnt know how will it be but take the risk and becouse allys like mine try it, the resy of the people know that they were bug.

    Sorry but all who complains of havent take part, they should have risked their tickets and not having waited like a cowards. Part of the comp is becouse we take the risk for the benefit of the rest.

    Sure yesterday all the cowards where happy with their tickets befone the announcement of the comp thinking "look how they have wasted the tickets or the units and we have been smarter".
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,780 ★★★★★
    Adri5846 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pandingo said:


    To clarify. THIS level of compensation just going out to the teams that dove in is insane. Thats a huge advantage over other people. Our alliance KNEW there would be bugs so we waited out joining and didnt join only because we were told not to. If wed have known theyd give us all that?!?! Of course we would have joined. Im not saying that the people who did it dont deserve more. But most higher tier players are ten year players who know how kabam releases go and avoided it BECAUSE of the bugs. So give them the compensation for items and resourses used absolutely. But everybody who participated in raids should get the crystal compensation. They missed out on the opportunity for rewards also. They just chose to avoid it instead of waste resourses.

    The whole point of doing content as early you can so that if it's buggy you can get compensated for something in return 🤣

    If you are NOT affected by any bugs
    Why are you crying for handouts?
    I think the point is we've been BURNED so many times with being plagued with terribly buggy, tuned wrong, etc early content, where we DONT get any sort of compensation that it's understandable that many people were nervous to enter after the problems were apparent because this kind of recognition and compensation *rarely* happens.
    That point doesn't get you to those people deserve compensation for something they didn't do, however. The people who did attempt it took the risk that things might go wrong, and if they did there was no guarantee they would be compensated for that. The people who decided to sit it out got exactly what they wanted.

    One of the best arguments. The allys that decided to not do NRaids they took advantage of the allys that decided to try it and be the testers.

    We enter the firts day (wanst any comp announced) and managed to full explore it despite the buggs. We didnt know how will it be but take the risk and becouse allys like mine try it, the resy of the people know that they were bug.

    Sorry but all who complains of havent take part, they should have risked their tickets and not having waited like a cowards. Part of the comp is becouse we take the risk for the benefit of the rest.

    Sure yesterday all the cowards where happy with their tickets befone the announcement of the comp thinking "look how they have wasted the tickets or the units and we have been smarter".
    Learn to write proper English first, and then call people cowards.
  • Gentsy12Gentsy12 Member Posts: 93 ★★

    PT_99 said:

    Pandingo said:


    To clarify. THIS level of compensation just going out to the teams that dove in is insane. Thats a huge advantage over other people. Our alliance KNEW there would be bugs so we waited out joining and didnt join only because we were told not to. If wed have known theyd give us all that?!?! Of course we would have joined. Im not saying that the people who did it dont deserve more. But most higher tier players are ten year players who know how kabam releases go and avoided it BECAUSE of the bugs. So give them the compensation for items and resourses used absolutely. But everybody who participated in raids should get the crystal compensation. They missed out on the opportunity for rewards also. They just chose to avoid it instead of waste resourses.

    The whole point of doing content as early you can so that if it's buggy you can get compensated for something in return 🤣

    If you are NOT affected by any bugs
    Why are you crying for handouts?
    I think the point is we've been BURNED so many times with being plagued with terribly buggy, tuned wrong, etc early content, where we DONT get any sort of compensation that it's understandable that many people were nervous to enter after the problems were apparent because this kind of recognition and compensation *rarely* happens.
  • ViperOfChampionViperOfChampion Member Posts: 460 ★★
    bru I agree lets give all the cav players who didn't participate in nightmare raids a titan
  • ViperOfChampionViperOfChampion Member Posts: 460 ★★
    edited March 27
    wait what Abt all those cav who actually got the compensation oh hell no, 6.3.6 7* Zola rampant only God can save them
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,846 ★★★★★
    If you didn’t do the content, you don’t deserve the compensation. Due to confusion my alliance leadership signed up for the regular Raids. I’m in the boat that misses out and that’s ok to me.

    Where maybe the OP might have had a leg to stand on is that this type of response is long overdue on a host of issues outside of that one horrible sounding experience. How do we quantify compensation for inadequate responses to game wide bugs? I truly don’t have an answer to that, and to be clear I’m not asking for that either. Just trying to offer a perspective on where I could see this type of request coming from.

    It could be simple FOMO and entitlement too, but it’s not like things have been flawless and there is an acknowledgment about 60fps messing up frame rate related interactions that only got an “oppsie” post after they let complaints hang in the ether for months….
  • Gentsy12Gentsy12 Member Posts: 93 ★★
    Gentsy12 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pandingo said:


    To clarify. THIS level of compensation just going out to the teams that dove in is insane. Thats a huge advantage over other people. Our alliance KNEW there would be bugs so we waited out joining and didnt join only because we were told not to. If wed have known theyd give us all that?!?! Of course we would have joined. Im not saying that the people who did it dont deserve more. But most higher tier players are ten year players who know how kabam releases go and avoided it BECAUSE of the bugs. So give them the compensation for items and resourses used absolutely. But everybody who participated in raids should get the crystal compensation. They missed out on the opportunity for rewards also. They just chose to avoid it instead of waste resourses.

    The whole point of doing content as early you can so that if it's buggy you can get compensated for something in return 🤣

    If you are NOT affected by any bugs
    Why are you crying for handouts?
    I think the point is we've been BURNED so many times with being plagued with terribly buggy, tuned wrong, etc early content, where we DONT get any sort of compensation that it's understandable that many people were nervous to enter after the problems were apparent because this kind of recognition and compensation *rarely* happens.
    To those of you disagreeing with this a piece of advice, “risk it for the biscuit” is one of the most valuable things you can learn. If you’re afraid of wasting a few resources that have not intrinsic value in a mobile video game, how are you going to have the intestinal fortitude to go out an ask out the girl, bet on black, quit your job, join a start-up, propose, start a family, split 8s against a 10 when you have a $2k and positive count, go bungee jumping, or take any number of other risks that make life worth living?

    If anything, I hope missing out on this compensation encourages people to take more risks. After all, this is just a game but life isn’t life without risks.
  • captaincushcaptaincush Member Posts: 994 ★★★★
    Searmenis said:

    Adri5846 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pandingo said:


    To clarify. THIS level of compensation just going out to the teams that dove in is insane. Thats a huge advantage over other people. Our alliance KNEW there would be bugs so we waited out joining and didnt join only because we were told not to. If wed have known theyd give us all that?!?! Of course we would have joined. Im not saying that the people who did it dont deserve more. But most higher tier players are ten year players who know how kabam releases go and avoided it BECAUSE of the bugs. So give them the compensation for items and resourses used absolutely. But everybody who participated in raids should get the crystal compensation. They missed out on the opportunity for rewards also. They just chose to avoid it instead of waste resourses.

    The whole point of doing content as early you can so that if it's buggy you can get compensated for something in return 🤣

    If you are NOT affected by any bugs
    Why are you crying for handouts?
    I think the point is we've been BURNED so many times with being plagued with terribly buggy, tuned wrong, etc early content, where we DONT get any sort of compensation that it's understandable that many people were nervous to enter after the problems were apparent because this kind of recognition and compensation *rarely* happens.
    That point doesn't get you to those people deserve compensation for something they didn't do, however. The people who did attempt it took the risk that things might go wrong, and if they did there was no guarantee they would be compensated for that. The people who decided to sit it out got exactly what they wanted.

    One of the best arguments. The allys that decided to not do NRaids they took advantage of the allys that decided to try it and be the testers.

    We enter the firts day (wanst any comp announced) and managed to full explore it despite the buggs. We didnt know how will it be but take the risk and becouse allys like mine try it, the resy of the people know that they were bug.

    Sorry but all who complains of havent take part, they should have risked their tickets and not having waited like a cowards. Part of the comp is becouse we take the risk for the benefit of the rest.

    Sure yesterday all the cowards where happy with their tickets befone the announcement of the comp thinking "look how they have wasted the tickets or the units and we have been smarter".
    Learn to write proper English first, and then call people cowards.
    No reason to insult someone. This is a global game and English may not be their first language
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,662 ★★★★★
    I overall agree with the sentiment that Compensation is to reimburse for something that happened. Compensation is not for regret or missed opportunity.

    There is clear understood precedence for this.

    Some people tackle Everest content day 1 and run into bugs. Other people hear about the bugs and hold off. Kabam decides to compensate the Day 1 players (sometimes it is just revives, and sometimes it might be an extra crystal if the reward selectors were bugged, etc). The other players who didn't participate typically do not receive the compensation package.

    We don't usually hear people demand compensation for deciding not to tackle the Necropolis day 1. I don't see why Nightmare Raids is any different.
    Searmenis said:

    Adri5846 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pandingo said:


    To clarify. THIS level of compensation just going out to the teams that dove in is insane. Thats a huge advantage over other people. Our alliance KNEW there would be bugs so we waited out joining and didnt join only because we were told not to. If wed have known theyd give us all that?!?! Of course we would have joined. Im not saying that the people who did it dont deserve more. But most higher tier players are ten year players who know how kabam releases go and avoided it BECAUSE of the bugs. So give them the compensation for items and resourses used absolutely. But everybody who participated in raids should get the crystal compensation. They missed out on the opportunity for rewards also. They just chose to avoid it instead of waste resourses.

    The whole point of doing content as early you can so that if it's buggy you can get compensated for something in return 🤣

    If you are NOT affected by any bugs
    Why are you crying for handouts?
    I think the point is we've been BURNED so many times with being plagued with terribly buggy, tuned wrong, etc early content, where we DONT get any sort of compensation that it's understandable that many people were nervous to enter after the problems were apparent because this kind of recognition and compensation *rarely* happens.
    That point doesn't get you to those people deserve compensation for something they didn't do, however. The people who did attempt it took the risk that things might go wrong, and if they did there was no guarantee they would be compensated for that. The people who decided to sit it out got exactly what they wanted.

    One of the best arguments. The allys that decided to not do NRaids they took advantage of the allys that decided to try it and be the testers.

    We enter the firts day (wanst any comp announced) and managed to full explore it despite the buggs. We didnt know how will it be but take the risk and becouse allys like mine try it, the resy of the people know that they were bug.

    Sorry but all who complains of havent take part, they should have risked their tickets and not having waited like a cowards. Part of the comp is becouse we take the risk for the benefit of the rest.

    Sure yesterday all the cowards where happy with their tickets befone the announcement of the comp thinking "look how they have wasted the tickets or the units and we have been smarter".
    Learn to write proper English first, and then call people cowards.
    If you played a non-English game, let's see how well you'd do posting on a forum in, let's say, Japanese. Aside from spelling mistakes, their point was perfectly clear to me.
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 386

    Before boycott was called
    Kabam ignores all players

    After boycott was called
    Greatest compensation ever

    well there are still so many more things that need to be compensated for
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,678 ★★★★★

    BHAWKS said:

    My alliance decided not to join Nightmare raids because everyone said it was bugged. I’m an end game player and feel like a part of the community is completely missing out because we decided to hold back. This was a chance for Kabam to give back to the whole community considering what’s going on.

    What do you think?

    While i sympathize with you missing out the reward
    You didn't throw your phone when you were fighting KORG with 9x thorns and KORG kept ignoring my parry and keep going unblockable and unstoppable......
    and in the end, i only manage 1% damage.......

    just saying
    This exactly. Had I known that there will be compensation, I would have probably still decided to sit this one out. There is no amount of rewards/compensation that’s worth losing your sanity trying to deal with bugged/overtuned content.
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,780 ★★★★★

    Searmenis said:

    Adri5846 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pandingo said:


    To clarify. THIS level of compensation just going out to the teams that dove in is insane. Thats a huge advantage over other people. Our alliance KNEW there would be bugs so we waited out joining and didnt join only because we were told not to. If wed have known theyd give us all that?!?! Of course we would have joined. Im not saying that the people who did it dont deserve more. But most higher tier players are ten year players who know how kabam releases go and avoided it BECAUSE of the bugs. So give them the compensation for items and resourses used absolutely. But everybody who participated in raids should get the crystal compensation. They missed out on the opportunity for rewards also. They just chose to avoid it instead of waste resourses.

    The whole point of doing content as early you can so that if it's buggy you can get compensated for something in return 🤣

    If you are NOT affected by any bugs
    Why are you crying for handouts?
    I think the point is we've been BURNED so many times with being plagued with terribly buggy, tuned wrong, etc early content, where we DONT get any sort of compensation that it's understandable that many people were nervous to enter after the problems were apparent because this kind of recognition and compensation *rarely* happens.
    That point doesn't get you to those people deserve compensation for something they didn't do, however. The people who did attempt it took the risk that things might go wrong, and if they did there was no guarantee they would be compensated for that. The people who decided to sit it out got exactly what they wanted.

    One of the best arguments. The allys that decided to not do NRaids they took advantage of the allys that decided to try it and be the testers.

    We enter the firts day (wanst any comp announced) and managed to full explore it despite the buggs. We didnt know how will it be but take the risk and becouse allys like mine try it, the resy of the people know that they were bug.

    Sorry but all who complains of havent take part, they should have risked their tickets and not having waited like a cowards. Part of the comp is becouse we take the risk for the benefit of the rest.

    Sure yesterday all the cowards where happy with their tickets befone the announcement of the comp thinking "look how they have wasted the tickets or the units and we have been smarter".
    Learn to write proper English first, and then call people cowards.
    No reason to insult someone. This is a global game and English may not be their first language
    Because calling people names is not an insult. Got it.
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 2,630 ★★★★★
    No, it shouldn't.
    I didn't do nightmare, I joined our normal raids group because I had enough going on that week to not wanna worry about learning the new nodes, phases and whatever else was going on.
    So you figure I should get compensated for something I didn't take part in? Lmao

    Not even close. 🤣
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 7,813 ★★★★★
    Jeez good thing the compensation only had a Titan crystal, imagine if it had a Nexus Titan 😱
  • kikiFurieuxkikiFurieux Member Posts: 259 ★★★
    The problem is not the compensation, it's how big the compensation is for the inconvenience.
    We've all been experiencing how bad the game is atm but somehow one screw up in NRaids and only people who participated (not just those who finished, just participated) get this huge comp.
    It is normal people get compensated for the mess, it is not normal to compensate based on the state of the game atm and not just the NRaids.
    Give tickets back, some gold and T6CC. You can even extend it to everyone in an ally as long as the ally joined NRaids, after all this did impact the final score glory wise.
    Leave the big stuff for everyone who suffers the game on a daily basis, base it on progression.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,769 ★★★★★

    Jeez good thing the compensation only had a Titan crystal, imagine if it had a Nexus Titan 😱

    Imagine Abyss Titan also,
    KABAM can make good money this july-4th with that.
    There's always 1 hero we're all missing or awakening from Titan
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,769 ★★★★★

    The problem is not the compensation, it's how big the compensation is for the inconvenience.
    We've all been experiencing how bad the game is atm but somehow one screw up in NRaids and only people who participated (not just those who finished, just participated) get this huge comp.
    It is normal people get compensated for the mess, it is not normal to compensate based on the state of the game atm and not just the NRaids.
    Give tickets back, some gold and T6CC. You can even extend it to everyone in an ally as long as the ally joined NRaids, after all this did impact the final score glory wise.
    Leave the big stuff for everyone who suffers the game on a daily basis, base it on progression.

    Yall who don't do hard content sure are stingy that compensation is good,
    Is it maybe because you won't get it or is it maybe because you don't like others getting good stuff?

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