Thoughts about Champions for 2025

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  • FrostGiantLordFrostGiantLord Member Posts: 2,234 ★★★★
    Skyfaw said:

    Kinda unrelated to the discussion being said above. But my thoughts on this month champs for march leave me a little bit uneasy. I hope it doesn’t become a trend where they release a really good champ and then months later release a champion that does everything that champion does and more.

    We’ve seen this with Leader who is a great champ at what he can do. But then months later Nefaria gets released and essentially made Leader forgotten. Now NTW and Jack are about to get the same treatment with Bastion and Jean Grey being added to the contest who are just objectively better in every way.

    Same with Kabam releasing absolutely broken defenders, waiting a few months to allow people to get pissed, then release a champ who counters everything they do for like $500. Seriously, it's a classic case of a corporation spreading a poison before creating its own antidote. While it may generate financial gains in the short term, this kind of behavior isn't good for the long term health of the game.

    This is sadly incredibly similar to the situation that the Supercell game Clash Royale is in right now, with the devs releasing a completely broken new card or evolution into the game, waiting for everyone to spend their money to acquire it, before completely nerfing it into the ground a few months later.

    So, Kabam, if you're reading this right now, let me ask you this: Is it really worth it to leave a large amount of your loyal playerbase disillusioned just for some extra cash? This community, which you've cultivated and grown for over 10 years now, has become more and more disappointed and frustrated with your actions. Do you really want to go down this route? Slowly fading into obscurity, as disillusioned players leave your game in droves, waiting for the game to slowly shrivel and die? Kabam, please, listen to us.
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 262 ★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    So, another character from my forecast for 2025 has come true. I just got the month of his appearance wrong. Jessica Drew is coming to April
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 7,594 ★★★★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    So, another character from my forecast for 2025 has come true. I just got the month of his appearance wrong. Jessica Drew is coming to April
    Bout time. Jessica drew has been a long time coming.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,211 ★★★★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    So, another character from my forecast for 2025 has come true. I just got the month of his appearance wrong. Jessica Drew is coming to April
    I don't think Dark Phoenix is coming as a trophy as its mentioned she will be a boss.
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 262 ★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    So, another character from my forecast for 2025 has come true. I just got the month of his appearance wrong. Jessica Drew is coming to April
    I don't think Dark Phoenix is coming as a trophy as its mentioned she will be a boss.
    More later
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,706 ★★★★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    So, another character from my forecast for 2025 has come true. I just got the month of his appearance wrong. Jessica Drew is coming to April
    I mean we knew she was coming eventually lmao
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 262 ★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    So, another character from my forecast for 2025 has come true. I just got the month of his appearance wrong. Jessica Drew is coming to April
    but now I will probably change my forecast. due to the fact that Jessica came out earlier than I expected, I will most likely have to abandon the idea of a US Agent in May. It's more likely now that he'll never come out at all. I need to figure out who to replace him with. After all, it's even stupid to challenge Elena Belova's exit, and she probably will have to put the space champion in a pair.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,706 ★★★★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    So, another character from my forecast for 2025 has come true. I just got the month of his appearance wrong. Jessica Drew is coming to April
    but now I will probably change my forecast. due to the fact that Jessica came out earlier than I expected, I will most likely have to abandon the idea of a US Agent in May. It's more likely now that he'll never come out at all. I need to figure out who to replace him with. After all, it's even stupid to challenge Elena Belova's exit, and she probably will have to put the space champion in a pair.
    Unless they just do the Thunderbolts update in June
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 739 ★★★

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    So, another character from my forecast for 2025 has come true. I just got the month of his appearance wrong. Jessica Drew is coming to April
    but now I will probably change my forecast. due to the fact that Jessica came out earlier than I expected, I will most likely have to abandon the idea of a US Agent in May. It's more likely now that he'll never come out at all. I need to figure out who to replace him with. After all, it's even stupid to challenge Elena Belova's exit, and she probably will have to put the space champion in a pair.
    Unless they just do the Thunderbolts update in June
    Why would they release this in June?
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 739 ★★★
    Regarding May, now it is almost certain that it is Cosmic Champion with Belova and it will probably just be a "Thunderbolts" theme, so I think (and I think I am not the only one who thinks so) that the champion of space will be Moonstone, but wait... remember the trailer for the 10th anniversary of the game and the 3 phrases in the language of the elders in the codex continuum? One of them was OZT and Bastion is already in the game and Tyler deliberately added these hints.


    Highlighted phrase translates as "Play God" and it can be said that Carla really plays the role of a god: dominating others (literally everyone), controlling them and considering herself a god after she had cosmic powers from the Moon stone... What do you think, could this phrase refer to her or to someone else?
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,706 ★★★★★
    Xleb said:

    Updated my forecast after Jean's synergies.
    January
    Okoye/Gentle
    February
    Arnim Zola/ Joaquin Torres
    March
    Jean Grey/Bastion
    April
    Lumatrix/Dark Phoenix (pass or trophy)
    May
    Elena Belova/ US Agent
    June
    Mistique/Madeleine Pryor
    July
    Franklin Richards/Shalla-Ball
    August
    Blue Marvel/Idol
    September
    Mr. Knight/Spider-Woman
    October
    Nightmare/Chamelon
    November
    ???/Agatha Harkness
    December
    Idol
    confused about the second character of November. I don't know what to put with Agatha. originally there was an RSH

    So, another character from my forecast for 2025 has come true. I just got the month of his appearance wrong. Jessica Drew is coming to April
    but now I will probably change my forecast. due to the fact that Jessica came out earlier than I expected, I will most likely have to abandon the idea of a US Agent in May. It's more likely now that he'll never come out at all. I need to figure out who to replace him with. After all, it's even stupid to challenge Elena Belova's exit, and she probably will have to put the space champion in a pair.
    Unless they just do the Thunderbolts update in June
    Why would they release this in June?
    Because it may happen. If for the remainder of the saga we have a cosmic and a skill plus the Cyclops buff I don't think it's entirely beyond the realm of possibility that they may could push Thunderbolts to June in order to have an actual update themed around them instead of fitting characters around other ones. It's just a possibility, at this point I think if may is Thunderbolts and it's cosmic and skill the most likely options are yelena and moonstone
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,211 ★★★★★
    Xleb said:

    Regarding May, now it is almost certain that it is Cosmic Champion with Belova and it will probably just be a "Thunderbolts" theme, so I think (and I think I am not the only one who thinks so) that the champion of space will be Moonstone, but wait... remember the trailer for the 10th anniversary of the game and the 3 phrases in the language of the elders in the codex continuum? One of them was OZT and Bastion is already in the game and Tyler deliberately added these hints.


    Highlighted phrase translates as "Play God" and it can be said that Carla really plays the role of a god: dominating others (literally everyone), controlling them and considering herself a god after she had cosmic powers from the Moon stone... What do you think, could this phrase refer to her or to someone else?

    Would Moonstone be cosmic or mystic?
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 262 ★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Xleb said:

    Regarding May, now it is almost certain that it is Cosmic Champion with Belova and it will probably just be a "Thunderbolts" theme, so I think (and I think I am not the only one who thinks so) that the champion of space will be Moonstone, but wait... remember the trailer for the 10th anniversary of the game and the 3 phrases in the language of the elders in the codex continuum? One of them was OZT and Bastion is already in the game and Tyler deliberately added these hints.


    Highlighted phrase translates as "Play God" and it can be said that Carla really plays the role of a god: dominating others (literally everyone), controlling them and considering herself a god after she had cosmic powers from the Moon stone... What do you think, could this phrase refer to her or to someone else?

    Would Moonstone be cosmic or mystic?
    Cosmic
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 262 ★★
    most likely, in 2025 we will not receive a single mystic, or only one, but closer to the end of the year.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★
    Before changing my predictions and shifting around champions I said I thought Spider-woman (Jessica Drew) was coming in April and so while not a full on Spider verse month there is a spider verse champion coming in April. Also she is a former Summoner Choice who did not win.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★
    Also now my mind is thinking about the cosmic who will most likely now come in May. Hmm...like is Moonstone the only option or are there other possibilities.
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 739 ★★★

    Also now my mind is thinking about the cosmic who will most likely now come in May. Hmm...like is Moonstone the only option or are there other possibilities.

    If we talk about the cosmic members of the Thunderbolts, then there are also Star, Genis-vell and Skaar (although maybe he would be science, I'm not sure)
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  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,706 ★★★★★

    most likely, in 2025 we will not receive a single mystic, or only one, but closer to the end of the year.

    Based on nothing
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,706 ★★★★★
    Xleb said:

    Also now my mind is thinking about the cosmic who will most likely now come in May. Hmm...like is Moonstone the only option or are there other possibilities.

    If we talk about the cosmic members of the Thunderbolts, then there are also Star, Genis-vell and Skaar (although maybe he would be science, I'm not sure)
    Has skarr ever been on the Thunderbolts? I know he was in the dark avengers but I can't see anything about him being in Thunderbolts. If this is about the new Thunderbolts line up then that's hulk not skarr
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★
    Spider-woman (Jessica Drew) was part of the Summoner's Choice 2022. Not wanting to assume anything, but other champions from that same Summoner 's Choice which did win include: Armor, Crystal, Agatha Darkness, and Hobgoblin. Could another one of those show up this year? Maybe, but also maybe not.

    One thing we all can agree on, the champions they have chosen for this year is intentional so it isn't random and now from this let us think what might be the remaining champions in light of this new information that being that Spider-woman (Jessica Drew) coming in April.
  • 1toxic_cupcake1toxic_cupcake Member Posts: 262 ★★

    most likely, in 2025 we will not receive a single mystic, or only one, but closer to the end of the year.

    Based on nothing
    Stop messing with me. This is based on the fact that in 2024 there were 8 (!) mystics. And now we know for sure that mystical champions are not even expected until June, which is already six months.
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 657 ★★★

    What is the possibility of this leak gets true?🤔
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 7,594 ★★★★★


    What is the possibility of this leak gets true?🤔

    The same that a baked potato is sentient.
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 739 ★★★


    What is the possibility of this leak gets true?🤔

    This is actually an April Fools joke, but it's worth considering that the Kabam can literally get a Lizard in October any year, but it still fits the theme.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Xleb said:

    Regarding May, now it is almost certain that it is Cosmic Champion with Belova and it will probably just be a "Thunderbolts" theme, so I think (and I think I am not the only one who thinks so) that the champion of space will be Moonstone, but wait... remember the trailer for the 10th anniversary of the game and the 3 phrases in the language of the elders in the codex continuum? One of them was OZT and Bastion is already in the game and Tyler deliberately added these hints.


    Highlighted phrase translates as "Play God" and it can be said that Carla really plays the role of a god: dominating others (literally everyone), controlling them and considering herself a god after she had cosmic powers from the Moon stone... What do you think, could this phrase refer to her or to someone else?

    Would Moonstone be cosmic or mystic?
    The other Elder Alphabet says "Real Family"
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,706 ★★★★★

    most likely, in 2025 we will not receive a single mystic, or only one, but closer to the end of the year.

    Based on nothing
    Stop messing with me. This is based on the fact that in 2024 there were 8 (!) mystics. And now we know for sure that mystical champions are not even expected until June, which is already six months.
    That doesn't mean we don't get any mystics this year
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 739 ★★★

    Hope dies last..
    We may have a narrative roadmap by the end of this month.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★
    Hope it happens, but going to wait and see.
  • BowTieJohnBowTieJohn Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★
    Also should have mentioned in my previous post we need to post comments on the video below:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=0ZEeO41bgFY
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