7* Cyclops, is he among the top 5 mutant now?

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  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 523 ★★
    Yes, damn that yellow numbers
    I think around top 5. His damage is just too much to ignore . And I have to admit yeah barely anybody has respect for gentle and o don’t know why. People were literally told that you need in a light to ignore recoil damage and they legit don’t care. I honestly think loads were influenced by msd opinion on gentle
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 523 ★★
    Yes, damn that yellow numbers
    Nice to know some people respect bishop everybody clowns on him fir some reason when I defend him
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,077 ★★★★★
    No, not there yet

    I think around top 5. His damage is just too much to ignore . And I have to admit yeah barely anybody has respect for gentle and o don’t know why. People were literally told that you need in a light to ignore recoil damage and they legit don’t care. I honestly think loads were influenced by msd opinion on gentle

    His damage is very good, but he lacks in the utility that other top mutants have
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,594 ★★★★★
    No, not there yet
    DrZola said:

    DrZola said:

    It will be hard to unseat the likes of Sinister, Onslaught, Domino, Bishop, Dust, etc. at the top.

    DPX, Storm and Dazzler all have a claim somewhere there too. No doubt he’s a fantastic nuke, but we will have to see how he stacks up after he’s been in game a bit.

    Dr. Zola

    how good is Bishop, I have him from epoch mutant and am saving my 1-2 for cyclops or onslaught, should I go for it even though I have r3 sinister and r2 dazzler
    Onslaught over Bishop is the call. But Bishop is a nuke and a solid dual threat in a lot of metas. His ability to retain his power bar from fight to fight is also great questing.

    Dr. Zola
    And great in AW defense if the attacker dies to him.

    Cyclops is really not here long enough to gauge but I don't see any major defensive threat outside of nodes which guarantee unblockable specials and something like power sack or kinetic instigator (or whatever that power gain on hitting blocks node is).
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,640 ★★★★★
    Yes, damn that yellow numbers

    EdisonLaw said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    No defensive value, Tight rotation, lack of utility outside true focus/prowess and intercept reliant.

    Lets give him some time before deciding. I'm never gonna trust youtubers after how they hyped characters like spiral and gentle.

    Gentle seems good though. I’ve seen people use him on defense and he’s annoying to fight and he nukes on attack

    People are definitely sleeping on him, Spiral isn’t bad either so I don’t really understand the point here. She’s good enough at what she does
    r3 Gentle here, definitely agree people are sleeping on him because of the built in recoils but he pretty much kills anything in BGs after sp2 for that to even matter. I did a r4 Prowler yesterday with him cause I had no other options and he only had 8% health left after one rotation. I don't know that many 7* that can punch a whole rank above like that with class disadvantage and almost kill with just sp1 sp2. Also to add to all this, he's the most braindead Bullseye counter in the entire game and imo the best.
    I seriously don’t understand the Gentle slander whatsoever. He’s a nuke, I fought him in BG without an unstoppable counter and he took forever to take down because of his crit res and the combo ability. I saw people saying he’s a horrible pull and stuff but he seems awesome. Like you said, one of the best bullseye counters and just general nukes. Super impressive prowler fight too and he can turn off the recoil so there isn’t even an issue there

    Seems like more of Nova situation to me where people don’t realize how crazy the champ is, I always trust Trappy though and he helped me realize how many champs are great. People were still slandering Nova and saying other comics are way better for BG when my r5A was cooking bullseyes and photons in under 50 seconds
    Agree with this, but the only thing that's like annoying on attack for Gentle, is that even at 13 Daunted, he doesn't crit often, which ends up with the SP2. not KOing the opponent.
    That's a myth, anyone who says that either doesn't know how to use Gentle or doesn't have him, when you throw sp2 he gains 4.5k crit rating. If you're running crit stat focus like you should be you're almost always going to get at least three crits.
    It's edison, it's pretty clear that he's just repeating what he's heard others who haven't played him say lmao
    Yeah lmao it's so obvious that they haven't played him too because how can you say he rarely crits when his sp2 has more crit rating than Red Guardian with two debuffs on a defender which makes him a crit machine pretty much.
    Or, I don’t have the 7* yet
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,077 ★★★★★
    No, not there yet
    EdisonLaw said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    No defensive value, Tight rotation, lack of utility outside true focus/prowess and intercept reliant.

    Lets give him some time before deciding. I'm never gonna trust youtubers after how they hyped characters like spiral and gentle.

    Gentle seems good though. I’ve seen people use him on defense and he’s annoying to fight and he nukes on attack

    People are definitely sleeping on him, Spiral isn’t bad either so I don’t really understand the point here. She’s good enough at what she does
    r3 Gentle here, definitely agree people are sleeping on him because of the built in recoils but he pretty much kills anything in BGs after sp2 for that to even matter. I did a r4 Prowler yesterday with him cause I had no other options and he only had 8% health left after one rotation. I don't know that many 7* that can punch a whole rank above like that with class disadvantage and almost kill with just sp1 sp2. Also to add to all this, he's the most braindead Bullseye counter in the entire game and imo the best.
    I seriously don’t understand the Gentle slander whatsoever. He’s a nuke, I fought him in BG without an unstoppable counter and he took forever to take down because of his crit res and the combo ability. I saw people saying he’s a horrible pull and stuff but he seems awesome. Like you said, one of the best bullseye counters and just general nukes. Super impressive prowler fight too and he can turn off the recoil so there isn’t even an issue there

    Seems like more of Nova situation to me where people don’t realize how crazy the champ is, I always trust Trappy though and he helped me realize how many champs are great. People were still slandering Nova and saying other comics are way better for BG when my r5A was cooking bullseyes and photons in under 50 seconds
    Agree with this, but the only thing that's like annoying on attack for Gentle, is that even at 13 Daunted, he doesn't crit often, which ends up with the SP2. not KOing the opponent.
    That's a myth, anyone who says that either doesn't know how to use Gentle or doesn't have him, when you throw sp2 he gains 4.5k crit rating. If you're running crit stat focus like you should be you're almost always going to get at least three crits.
    It's edison, it's pretty clear that he's just repeating what he's heard others who haven't played him say lmao
    Yeah lmao it's so obvious that they haven't played him too because how can you say he rarely crits when his sp2 has more crit rating than Red Guardian with two debuffs on a defender which makes him a crit machine pretty much.
    Or, I don’t have the 7* yet
    So why are you talking as if you know
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,640 ★★★★★
    Yes, damn that yellow numbers

    EdisonLaw said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    No defensive value, Tight rotation, lack of utility outside true focus/prowess and intercept reliant.

    Lets give him some time before deciding. I'm never gonna trust youtubers after how they hyped characters like spiral and gentle.

    Gentle seems good though. I’ve seen people use him on defense and he’s annoying to fight and he nukes on attack

    People are definitely sleeping on him, Spiral isn’t bad either so I don’t really understand the point here. She’s good enough at what she does
    r3 Gentle here, definitely agree people are sleeping on him because of the built in recoils but he pretty much kills anything in BGs after sp2 for that to even matter. I did a r4 Prowler yesterday with him cause I had no other options and he only had 8% health left after one rotation. I don't know that many 7* that can punch a whole rank above like that with class disadvantage and almost kill with just sp1 sp2. Also to add to all this, he's the most braindead Bullseye counter in the entire game and imo the best.
    I seriously don’t understand the Gentle slander whatsoever. He’s a nuke, I fought him in BG without an unstoppable counter and he took forever to take down because of his crit res and the combo ability. I saw people saying he’s a horrible pull and stuff but he seems awesome. Like you said, one of the best bullseye counters and just general nukes. Super impressive prowler fight too and he can turn off the recoil so there isn’t even an issue there

    Seems like more of Nova situation to me where people don’t realize how crazy the champ is, I always trust Trappy though and he helped me realize how many champs are great. People were still slandering Nova and saying other comics are way better for BG when my r5A was cooking bullseyes and photons in under 50 seconds
    Agree with this, but the only thing that's like annoying on attack for Gentle, is that even at 13 Daunted, he doesn't crit often, which ends up with the SP2. not KOing the opponent.
    That's a myth, anyone who says that either doesn't know how to use Gentle or doesn't have him, when you throw sp2 he gains 4.5k crit rating. If you're running crit stat focus like you should be you're almost always going to get at least three crits.
    It's edison, it's pretty clear that he's just repeating what he's heard others who haven't played him say lmao
    Yeah lmao it's so obvious that they haven't played him too because how can you say he rarely crits when his sp2 has more crit rating than Red Guardian with two debuffs on a defender which makes him a crit machine pretty much.
    Or, I don’t have the 7* yet
    So why are you talking as if you know
    Well, I was referring to gentle without crit stat focus
  • TheUglyone123TheUglyone123 Member Posts: 648 ★★★★
    Debatable with other mutants

    EdisonLaw said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    No defensive value, Tight rotation, lack of utility outside true focus/prowess and intercept reliant.

    Lets give him some time before deciding. I'm never gonna trust youtubers after how they hyped characters like spiral and gentle.

    Gentle seems good though. I’ve seen people use him on defense and he’s annoying to fight and he nukes on attack

    People are definitely sleeping on him, Spiral isn’t bad either so I don’t really understand the point here. She’s good enough at what she does
    r3 Gentle here, definitely agree people are sleeping on him because of the built in recoils but he pretty much kills anything in BGs after sp2 for that to even matter. I did a r4 Prowler yesterday with him cause I had no other options and he only had 8% health left after one rotation. I don't know that many 7* that can punch a whole rank above like that with class disadvantage and almost kill with just sp1 sp2. Also to add to all this, he's the most braindead Bullseye counter in the entire game and imo the best.
    I seriously don’t understand the Gentle slander whatsoever. He’s a nuke, I fought him in BG without an unstoppable counter and he took forever to take down because of his crit res and the combo ability. I saw people saying he’s a horrible pull and stuff but he seems awesome. Like you said, one of the best bullseye counters and just general nukes. Super impressive prowler fight too and he can turn off the recoil so there isn’t even an issue there

    Seems like more of Nova situation to me where people don’t realize how crazy the champ is, I always trust Trappy though and he helped me realize how many champs are great. People were still slandering Nova and saying other comics are way better for BG when my r5A was cooking bullseyes and photons in under 50 seconds
    Agree with this, but the only thing that's like annoying on attack for Gentle, is that even at 13 Daunted, he doesn't crit often, which ends up with the SP2. not KOing the opponent.
    That's a myth, anyone who says that either doesn't know how to use Gentle or doesn't have him, when you throw sp2 he gains 4.5k crit rating. If you're running crit stat focus like you should be you're almost always going to get at least three crits.
    It's edison, it's pretty clear that he's just repeating what he's heard others who haven't played him say lmao
    Yeah lmao it's so obvious that they haven't played him too because how can you say he rarely crits when his sp2 has more crit rating than Red Guardian with two debuffs on a defender which makes him a crit machine pretty much.
    Out of total curiosity, would you really recommend running precision on gentle even with the extra crit he gets during his sp2? Wouldn’t special damage be better? Just genuinely curious, not doubting your gentle knowledge
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,330 ★★★★★
    No, not there yet

    EdisonLaw said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    No defensive value, Tight rotation, lack of utility outside true focus/prowess and intercept reliant.

    Lets give him some time before deciding. I'm never gonna trust youtubers after how they hyped characters like spiral and gentle.

    Gentle seems good though. I’ve seen people use him on defense and he’s annoying to fight and he nukes on attack

    People are definitely sleeping on him, Spiral isn’t bad either so I don’t really understand the point here. She’s good enough at what she does
    r3 Gentle here, definitely agree people are sleeping on him because of the built in recoils but he pretty much kills anything in BGs after sp2 for that to even matter. I did a r4 Prowler yesterday with him cause I had no other options and he only had 8% health left after one rotation. I don't know that many 7* that can punch a whole rank above like that with class disadvantage and almost kill with just sp1 sp2. Also to add to all this, he's the most braindead Bullseye counter in the entire game and imo the best.
    I seriously don’t understand the Gentle slander whatsoever. He’s a nuke, I fought him in BG without an unstoppable counter and he took forever to take down because of his crit res and the combo ability. I saw people saying he’s a horrible pull and stuff but he seems awesome. Like you said, one of the best bullseye counters and just general nukes. Super impressive prowler fight too and he can turn off the recoil so there isn’t even an issue there

    Seems like more of Nova situation to me where people don’t realize how crazy the champ is, I always trust Trappy though and he helped me realize how many champs are great. People were still slandering Nova and saying other comics are way better for BG when my r5A was cooking bullseyes and photons in under 50 seconds
    Agree with this, but the only thing that's like annoying on attack for Gentle, is that even at 13 Daunted, he doesn't crit often, which ends up with the SP2. not KOing the opponent.
    That's a myth, anyone who says that either doesn't know how to use Gentle or doesn't have him, when you throw sp2 he gains 4.5k crit rating. If you're running crit stat focus like you should be you're almost always going to get at least three crits.
    It's edison, it's pretty clear that he's just repeating what he's heard others who haven't played him say lmao
    Yeah lmao it's so obvious that they haven't played him too because how can you say he rarely crits when his sp2 has more crit rating than Red Guardian with two debuffs on a defender which makes him a crit machine pretty much.
    Exactly. I pulled Gentle early and he takes a little getting used to but people acting like he's not an incredibly solid champ just haven't played him enough. Personally i think the hardest thing about him is trying to line the unstoppable with his specials but even then it just takes a bit of practice to do and if you can't get it then you can use the 4th light to avoid the big damage back. Other than that he's a great 2 way champ
    Yeah he just received a lot of hate from people because of the built in recoils and the fact that his crit rating is one of the worst in the game at base but 1. People don't realize that ability also means he can run suicides and take no damage whatsoever which is very strong and 2. His sp2 gains 4.5k crit rating which gives you 5k crit rating in total during the special if you run crit stat focus so that low crit rating at base means nothing.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,330 ★★★★★
    No, not there yet
    EdisonLaw said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    No defensive value, Tight rotation, lack of utility outside true focus/prowess and intercept reliant.

    Lets give him some time before deciding. I'm never gonna trust youtubers after how they hyped characters like spiral and gentle.

    Gentle seems good though. I’ve seen people use him on defense and he’s annoying to fight and he nukes on attack

    People are definitely sleeping on him, Spiral isn’t bad either so I don’t really understand the point here. She’s good enough at what she does
    r3 Gentle here, definitely agree people are sleeping on him because of the built in recoils but he pretty much kills anything in BGs after sp2 for that to even matter. I did a r4 Prowler yesterday with him cause I had no other options and he only had 8% health left after one rotation. I don't know that many 7* that can punch a whole rank above like that with class disadvantage and almost kill with just sp1 sp2. Also to add to all this, he's the most braindead Bullseye counter in the entire game and imo the best.
    I seriously don’t understand the Gentle slander whatsoever. He’s a nuke, I fought him in BG without an unstoppable counter and he took forever to take down because of his crit res and the combo ability. I saw people saying he’s a horrible pull and stuff but he seems awesome. Like you said, one of the best bullseye counters and just general nukes. Super impressive prowler fight too and he can turn off the recoil so there isn’t even an issue there

    Seems like more of Nova situation to me where people don’t realize how crazy the champ is, I always trust Trappy though and he helped me realize how many champs are great. People were still slandering Nova and saying other comics are way better for BG when my r5A was cooking bullseyes and photons in under 50 seconds
    Agree with this, but the only thing that's like annoying on attack for Gentle, is that even at 13 Daunted, he doesn't crit often, which ends up with the SP2. not KOing the opponent.
    That's a myth, anyone who says that either doesn't know how to use Gentle or doesn't have him, when you throw sp2 he gains 4.5k crit rating. If you're running crit stat focus like you should be you're almost always going to get at least three crits.
    It's edison, it's pretty clear that he's just repeating what he's heard others who haven't played him say lmao
    Yeah lmao it's so obvious that they haven't played him too because how can you say he rarely crits when his sp2 has more crit rating than Red Guardian with two debuffs on a defender which makes him a crit machine pretty much.
    Or, I don’t have the 7* yet
    So why are you talking as if you know
    Well, I was referring to gentle without crit stat focus
    Even without crit stat focus he will get at least two crits on sp2, he gains 4.5k crit rating just for activating sp2 until the end of it.
  • Justnoob4realJustnoob4real Member Posts: 46
    Yes, damn that yellow numbers
    he easy is period.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,330 ★★★★★
    No, not there yet

    EdisonLaw said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    No defensive value, Tight rotation, lack of utility outside true focus/prowess and intercept reliant.

    Lets give him some time before deciding. I'm never gonna trust youtubers after how they hyped characters like spiral and gentle.

    Gentle seems good though. I’ve seen people use him on defense and he’s annoying to fight and he nukes on attack

    People are definitely sleeping on him, Spiral isn’t bad either so I don’t really understand the point here. She’s good enough at what she does
    r3 Gentle here, definitely agree people are sleeping on him because of the built in recoils but he pretty much kills anything in BGs after sp2 for that to even matter. I did a r4 Prowler yesterday with him cause I had no other options and he only had 8% health left after one rotation. I don't know that many 7* that can punch a whole rank above like that with class disadvantage and almost kill with just sp1 sp2. Also to add to all this, he's the most braindead Bullseye counter in the entire game and imo the best.
    I seriously don’t understand the Gentle slander whatsoever. He’s a nuke, I fought him in BG without an unstoppable counter and he took forever to take down because of his crit res and the combo ability. I saw people saying he’s a horrible pull and stuff but he seems awesome. Like you said, one of the best bullseye counters and just general nukes. Super impressive prowler fight too and he can turn off the recoil so there isn’t even an issue there

    Seems like more of Nova situation to me where people don’t realize how crazy the champ is, I always trust Trappy though and he helped me realize how many champs are great. People were still slandering Nova and saying other comics are way better for BG when my r5A was cooking bullseyes and photons in under 50 seconds
    Agree with this, but the only thing that's like annoying on attack for Gentle, is that even at 13 Daunted, he doesn't crit often, which ends up with the SP2. not KOing the opponent.
    That's a myth, anyone who says that either doesn't know how to use Gentle or doesn't have him, when you throw sp2 he gains 4.5k crit rating. If you're running crit stat focus like you should be you're almost always going to get at least three crits.
    It's edison, it's pretty clear that he's just repeating what he's heard others who haven't played him say lmao
    Yeah lmao it's so obvious that they haven't played him too because how can you say he rarely crits when his sp2 has more crit rating than Red Guardian with two debuffs on a defender which makes him a crit machine pretty much.
    Out of total curiosity, would you really recommend running precision on gentle even with the extra crit he gets during his sp2? Wouldn’t special damage be better? Just genuinely curious, not doubting your gentle knowledge
    I would still recommend rurunning crit stat yes, special damage does mean he hits harder overall but with mutants you really want them to crit more often not to crit harder because they already hit really hard as is.
  • AxioAxio Member Posts: 13
    Yes, damn that yellow numbers
    Have played with him, cyclops is just an attacker and is fun and spam specials and it’s game over for most cases. One of the kabam decisions to buff and his kit I would say.
  • BKSwisherSweetBKSwisherSweet Member Posts: 246 ★★
    No, not there yet
    Off topic - Is Cyclops better than Jean Grey? I kind of think Jean does better damage and is a better defender.

  • TheHercTheHerc Member Posts: 171
    How to get him?
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