What even is a good champ
MouserCheese96
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I swear a lot of the champs people say are the "best" aren't really mind-blowing
Three examples I can think of off the top of my head are Kate Bishop, Onslaught, Prowler, Mr. Sinister, and Serpent.
Of course, this entire thing could just be because I lack endgame ball knowledge, but if we just look at story/side questing, I've really never used any of the champs listed - other champs simply do it better in the event of certain nodes. Kate Bishop takes way too long to get ramped and get her utility up, Onslaught requires constant parry stuns and heavy attacks to ramp up, Prowler is just ass, Mr. Sinister doesn't have any unique abilities, and Serpent is just not the best option in any sort of questing scenario. Scorpion only really works with the venom synergy, and also has a funky playstyle.
The only champ that I've seen consistently solving ANY problem is KUSHALA. Am I just clueless or am I onto something? Like everyone glazes Kate but I used her like one time in the entirety of Act 8. Same with onslaught - he just requires too many things to be able to achieve his max damage potential.
Three examples I can think of off the top of my head are Kate Bishop, Onslaught, Prowler, Mr. Sinister, and Serpent.
Of course, this entire thing could just be because I lack endgame ball knowledge, but if we just look at story/side questing, I've really never used any of the champs listed - other champs simply do it better in the event of certain nodes. Kate Bishop takes way too long to get ramped and get her utility up, Onslaught requires constant parry stuns and heavy attacks to ramp up, Prowler is just ass, Mr. Sinister doesn't have any unique abilities, and Serpent is just not the best option in any sort of questing scenario. Scorpion only really works with the venom synergy, and also has a funky playstyle.
The only champ that I've seen consistently solving ANY problem is KUSHALA. Am I just clueless or am I onto something? Like everyone glazes Kate but I used her like one time in the entirety of Act 8. Same with onslaught - he just requires too many things to be able to achieve his max damage potential.
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Sinister is just amazing. Minimal hits, but heavy damage, degen (which hardly anyone is immune to), plus other abilities that, while not his main focus, are very handy. He's always on my questing team, and I rarely even read nodes when he's on the team.
It's the former
Lists FIVE examples instead.
Jokes aside, this depends person to person as how they define good champ. For me its standalone champs who don't need synergy for optimal use with utility and damage. Some may define champs based upon damage.
So there is no correct definition of GOOD CHAMP
all the champs you listed are conventionally good champs because people seem to find them useful in wider range of matchups and complex fights, perhaps you do not do those fights or maybe you just dont like the way they handle those fights. So from your pov they might not appear that good.
I for the longest time slept on kate bishop because I simply used different champs for those matchups, it wasn't until i landed in situations where i needed all of her utility combined that i saw her value.
Its a big game, hundreds of champs , vast amount of options to handle the same flight so its not uncommon that you somehow never found such use for them but that doesn't devalue them
Not to mention, he's Immune to reverse controls and regen rate modification, can block Unblockable Specials, regenerates most critical damage, has 100% bleed resistance, and shuts down Skill Purify abilities.
I mean... 🤷♂️
To respond to your specific statements on these three...five...six examples...
Kate Bishop needs to throw two SP1s...if that takes you too long, you're doing something wrong.
Onslaught does needs to throw heavies, but there's no requirement to parry. He just requires skill to get the most out of him, and even then it isn't a lot of skill. He deals damage that champs aren't immune to and is one of the most annoying defenders in the game.
You're just bad with Prowler. His damage can get pretty nutty when you play him correctly, and his power control is pretty significant. But I guess you probably want your opponent throwing more specials.
Worst take on Mr Sinister anyone has ever had. Learn how to play a champ before making a statement on them. Not even going to help you with this one.
Serpent is a beast and is better than that Hercules you're almost definitely bringing to every quest. Not only is he one of the toughest defenders in the game (not everything is about offensive ability you know), but he's also one of the best evade and miss counters in the game. Literally throw one special (which he can do through the block for even more damage) and, unless you get hit by an opponents special (which I will assume you will), you never have to worry about miss or evade for the rest of the fight. Bad for questing? He was one of my most used champs in 9.2. He was able to answer a lot of what the node sets were asking. "Best option" or not, he's a great option in questing.
I'm not skilled with Scorpion myself, but there's a reason he's not a 7* yet. His unique and flexible immunities coupled with the fact that he will just eat through champs as they throw their specials puts him near the top of the science class. Even as a 6* he still has a place in the game.
Kushala is great. At least you got that one.
The game isn't built to bring the same 5 champs to every piece of content. If you're going to base Kate's value off of the fact that you brought her once to Act 8, then you're understanding things wrong. Late story content is all about roster diversity. You shouldn't be bringing the same champs over and over again, and you also shouldn't be basing their value on how much you use them and specifically on your own ability to play them. It's okay to not be skilled with a champ, but that could instead mean that you're bad and not the champ.
But you snuck him in so it was always gonna be a setup
“Prowler is ass” reminded me of that dude.
This was entertaining 😂
Actually, matter of fact, please tell me you are using your heavy attack when they are at 0 power?
I agree, he is much better post-awakening, but he is still great regardless