Sick of looking at banned account threads

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  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 6,623 ★★★★★

    Bro, we r discussing here! If you hv a problem, just ignore! So, ur gonna set the rules as to what needs to be posted or discussed here?!

    The forum has been overtaken by a bunch of people most of whom have never or rarely ever participated here before.
    And this issue at hand has strong emotions on both sides (people victimized by cheaters using unauthorized downloads, which also happens to be the way some non-cheaters need to access the game).
    Forum regulars are less than 1% of active users, so I’m not surprised.
  • Toproller89Toproller89 Member Posts: 2,032 ★★★★★

    Can we just kick them off the forums as well? Not only have a bunch of people cheated and been caught but now half the threads are about how they are so hard done by and that it was a mistake they got banned.

    I hope you get banned soon for no reason! Let's see how much calm u stay! 🙂
    I’m fine, why would you want me to get banned for no reason? You got banned for being a no good cheater, you are not welcome in the battlerealm.
  • Sceptilemaniac2Sceptilemaniac2 Member Posts: 438 ★★★
    Pikolu said:

    Gotta have empathy for some of these people. For a lot of people, they probably weren't aware of having an illegitimate client, and I imagine most of these people aren't people who are cheating in the first place. Unfortunately, it is the few that are cheating that ruin everything for everyone else

    Thank you. Finally someone acknowledging that most of the people didn't even know they were doing anything wrong.
    I still have no idea why I was banned. Downloaded from play store, never played on PC, no bluestacks no nothing.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 1,829 ★★★★
    I strongly believe that some players were unjustly banned

    Many have said they downloaded from official sources and got banned

    This needs to be investigated urgently on Monday for Kabam
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 690 ★★★


    Kabam need to ban this type of modders
    Clearly modding as elsa places degen when she inflicted with bleed but no degen damage

    Except not. I've done Elsa this season with a non mutant. Not fun, but doable. If you watch the fight, and still don't understand, then I can explain what's going on. But it's pretty lame to accuse someone of modding without even watching the fight.
    Can't you see there is no degen damage to attacker and fyi that bleed complete healing block you so you can't heal by any means also finishing at 90% hp is clearly sus but I would love to hear your opinion on this fight pls
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,952 ★★★★★


    Kabam need to ban this type of modders
    Clearly modding as elsa places degen when she inflicted with bleed but no degen damage

    Except not. I've done Elsa this season with a non mutant. Not fun, but doable. If you watch the fight, and still don't understand, then I can explain what's going on. But it's pretty lame to accuse someone of modding without even watching the fight.
    Can't you see there is no degen damage to attacker and fyi that bleed complete healing block you so you can't heal by any means also finishing at 90% hp is clearly sus but I would love to hear your opinion on this fight pls
    As soon as gamora inflicts bleed due to the node, elsa purifies it, so no bleed damage. If you don't inflict another bleed within 7 secs (definitely possible with good rng and some planning) you can nuke elsa. Gamora only needs her sp2 to do this fight. Totally possible with very high luck.
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,698 ★★★★★


    Kabam need to ban this type of modders
    Clearly modding as elsa places degen when she inflicted with bleed but no degen damage

    Except not. I've done Elsa this season with a non mutant. Not fun, but doable. If you watch the fight, and still don't understand, then I can explain what's going on. But it's pretty lame to accuse someone of modding without even watching the fight.
    Can't you see there is no degen damage to attacker and fyi that bleed complete healing block you so you can't heal by any means also finishing at 90% hp is clearly sus but I would love to hear your opinion on this fight pls
    Did you not even watch the fight? He even recorded it. Go watch it. You don't even have to read it since that might be hard.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,575 ★★★★★


    Kabam need to ban this type of modders
    Clearly modding as elsa places degen when she inflicted with bleed but no degen damage

    Except not. I've done Elsa this season with a non mutant. Not fun, but doable. If you watch the fight, and still don't understand, then I can explain what's going on. But it's pretty lame to accuse someone of modding without even watching the fight.
    Can't you see there is no degen damage to attacker and fyi that bleed complete healing block you so you can't heal by any means also finishing at 90% hp is clearly sus but I would love to hear your opinion on this fight pls
    Did you not even watch the fight? He even recorded it. Go watch it. You don't even have to read it since that might be hard.
    Wait, it's nick's fight? Not the other person he was matching against?
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,698 ★★★★★
    edited June 8


    Kabam need to ban this type of modders
    Clearly modding as elsa places degen when she inflicted with bleed but no degen damage

    Except not. I've done Elsa this season with a non mutant. Not fun, but doable. If you watch the fight, and still don't understand, then I can explain what's going on. But it's pretty lame to accuse someone of modding without even watching the fight.
    Can't you see there is no degen damage to attacker and fyi that bleed complete healing block you so you can't heal by any means also finishing at 90% hp is clearly sus but I would love to hear your opinion on this fight pls
    Did you not even watch the fight? He even recorded it. Go watch it. You don't even have to read it since that might be hard.
    Wait, it's nick's fight? Not the other person he was matching against?
    Pretty sure. He was streaming for 2.5 hours. I think it was his fight (I honestly haven't watched it, but I have gotten an Elsa down in 1:27 this season with no degen damage, so I'm sure Nick could too)
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,945 Guardian

    Can we just kick them off the forums as well? Not only have a bunch of people cheated and been caught but now half the threads are about how they are so hard done by and that it was a mistake they got banned.

    I hope you get banned soon for no reason! Let's see how much calm u stay! 🙂
    You were banned for a reason.
    Oh, I don't think so! Kabam will come up with some BS reason! Only time will tell!

    There r YouTubers who r mercing openly and yet their accounts haven't been suspended! So it's no surprise that Kabam has actually messed up big time! 🙂
    Saying that doesn't help your cause at all. It makes me thing you believe your ban is unjustified because you think other people deserve the ban more, not because you're innocent.

    The only reason I'm not going ham on everyone claiming they are innocent is there is a tiny, tiny probability there are a few out there. I'm talking like one or two. Maybe a dozen, maybe. But the vast overwhelming majority were banned for the stated reasons correctly, whether anyone thinks unauthorized clients are a justified reason or not, whether they think the punishment fits the crime or not. They looked for unauthorized clients, found them, and took action. I'm pretty sure virtually everyone targeted was targeted because they did in fact do what the ban wave claims they did.

    Why some players were only temp banned while others were perma banned I don't know, but history suggests a possibility. In the past players have been issued temp bans, and then upon further review those bans were escalated to permanent bans when the anti-cheat team poured over those accounts with a fine toothed comb. Something like that is probably happening here.

    No one got banned for no reason. Either you got banned because you did what Kabam says you did, or there's something exceptionally weird about your account that makes it look like you did. If there was a problem with the bans that caused them to ban players just randomly and for no reason, we'd know it by now.

    A person came forward on the Discord to say they were errantly banned and drew a lot of supporters who thought if anyone was innocent it was him. They subsequently stated they appealed their ban and Kabam reversed it. As it turns out, they were never banned and the ban was never reversed. They just said that to rabble rouse (and was banned from the Discord as a result).

    This doesn't mean everyone is lying. But it says anyone could be lying.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,945 Guardian

    I strongly believe that some players were unjustly banned

    Many have said they downloaded from official sources and got banned

    This needs to be investigated urgently on Monday for Kabam

    They have been investigating from the start. As far as I am aware, they have yet to find an example of an errant ban. In most cases players are confirmed to be running unauthorized clients, and why they think they aren't is a separate question.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,705 ★★★★★


    Kabam need to ban this type of modders
    Clearly modding as elsa places degen when she inflicted with bleed but no degen damage

    Except not. I've done Elsa this season with a non mutant. Not fun, but doable. If you watch the fight, and still don't understand, then I can explain what's going on. But it's pretty lame to accuse someone of modding without even watching the fight.
    Can't you see there is no degen damage to attacker and fyi that bleed complete healing block you so you can't heal by any means also finishing at 90% hp is clearly sus but I would love to hear your opinion on this fight pls
    Did you not even watch the fight? He even recorded it. Go watch it. You don't even have to read it since that might be hard.
    Wait, it's nick's fight? Not the other person he was matching against?
    Pretty sure. He was streaming for 2.5 hours. I think it was his fight (I honestly haven't watched it, but I have gotten an Elsa down in 1:27 this season with no degen damage, so I'm sure Nick could too)
    No, it was Nick's Elsa on defense, and it was Nick who accused his opponent (on a live stream) of being a hacker for not taking degen damage from Elsa with a non-mutant.
    @willrun4adonut @Average_Desi
  • ZwierzakolZwierzakol Member Posts: 44
    DNA3000 said:

    Can we just kick them off the forums as well? Not only have a bunch of people cheated and been caught but now half the threads are about how they are so hard done by and that it was a mistake they got banned.

    I hope you get banned soon for no reason! Let's see how much calm u stay! 🙂
    You were banned for a reason.
    Oh, I don't think so! Kabam will come up with some BS reason! Only time will tell!

    There r YouTubers who r mercing openly and yet their accounts haven't been suspended! So it's no surprise that Kabam has actually messed up big time! 🙂
    ...
    No one got banned for no reason.
    ....
    Yes, because Kabam is unerring and their software doesn't give any errors
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,698 ★★★★★


    Kabam need to ban this type of modders
    Clearly modding as elsa places degen when she inflicted with bleed but no degen damage

    Except not. I've done Elsa this season with a non mutant. Not fun, but doable. If you watch the fight, and still don't understand, then I can explain what's going on. But it's pretty lame to accuse someone of modding without even watching the fight.
    Can't you see there is no degen damage to attacker and fyi that bleed complete healing block you so you can't heal by any means also finishing at 90% hp is clearly sus but I would love to hear your opinion on this fight pls
    Did you not even watch the fight? He even recorded it. Go watch it. You don't even have to read it since that might be hard.
    Wait, it's nick's fight? Not the other person he was matching against?
    Pretty sure. He was streaming for 2.5 hours. I think it was his fight (I honestly haven't watched it, but I have gotten an Elsa down in 1:27 this season with no degen damage, so I'm sure Nick could too)
    No, it was Nick's Elsa on defense, and it was Nick who accused his opponent (on a live stream) of being a hacker for not taking degen damage from Elsa with a non-mutant.
    @willrun4adonut @Average_Desi
    Thanks for the clarification.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,945 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    Can we just kick them off the forums as well? Not only have a bunch of people cheated and been caught but now half the threads are about how they are so hard done by and that it was a mistake they got banned.

    I hope you get banned soon for no reason! Let's see how much calm u stay! 🙂
    You were banned for a reason.
    Oh, I don't think so! Kabam will come up with some BS reason! Only time will tell!

    There r YouTubers who r mercing openly and yet their accounts haven't been suspended! So it's no surprise that Kabam has actually messed up big time! 🙂
    ...
    No one got banned for no reason.
    ....
    Yes, because Kabam is unerring and their software doesn't give any errors
    Everybody makes mistakes. But if Kabam's software was banning people for literally no reason, meaning it was just banning players randomly, we would definitely know it by now. First, because of the high probability of baning a high profile player, and second because Kabam has been investigating reports of errant bans, and so far hasn't actually found any errors. So if errors exist, they have to be very rare, and if the ban algorithm is making very rare error they almost certainly have to be being generated for some very odd corner case reason that makes those accounts unique for a very specific reason. Widespread random errors would have been spotted by now.

    To be honest, the more snarky comments like this I see, the less inclined I am to spend time trying to sort through this all. I've already spent more time looking, reading, and questioning, and so far the best I've come up with is wasting the devs time looking at a proven fraud.

    I am someone that has assisted players getting erroneous bans reversed. I don't assume everyone is lying or wrong. However, I have also seen enough vacations to Mexico to know that the vast overwhelming majority of the time people are lying or mistaken or both. The bans I got reversed were not random, they both had very obvious reasons for triggering the bans. Bans from out of nowhere for no reason are vanishingly rare.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,575 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Can we just kick them off the forums as well? Not only have a bunch of people cheated and been caught but now half the threads are about how they are so hard done by and that it was a mistake they got banned.

    I hope you get banned soon for no reason! Let's see how much calm u stay! 🙂
    You were banned for a reason.
    Oh, I don't think so! Kabam will come up with some BS reason! Only time will tell!

    There r YouTubers who r mercing openly and yet their accounts haven't been suspended! So it's no surprise that Kabam has actually messed up big time! 🙂
    ...
    No one got banned for no reason.
    ....
    Yes, because Kabam is unerring and their software doesn't give any errors
    Everybody makes mistakes. But if Kabam's software was banning people for literally no reason, meaning it was just banning players randomly, we would definitely know it by now. First, because of the high probability of baning a high profile player, and second because Kabam has been investigating reports of errant bans, and so far hasn't actually found any errors. So if errors exist, they have to be very rare, and if the ban algorithm is making very rare error they almost certainly have to be being generated for some very odd corner case reason that makes those accounts unique for a very specific reason. Widespread random errors would have been spotted by now.

    To be honest, the more snarky comments like this I see, the less inclined I am to spend time trying to sort through this all. I've already spent more time looking, reading, and questioning, and so far the best I've come up with is wasting the devs time looking at a proven fraud.

    I am someone that has assisted players getting erroneous bans reversed. I don't assume everyone is lying or wrong. However, I have also seen enough vacations to Mexico to know that the vast overwhelming majority of the time people are lying or mistaken or both. The bans I got reversed were not random, they both had very obvious reasons for triggering the bans. Bans from out of nowhere for no reason are vanishingly rare.
    Hey , another question. Again, assuming they aren't lying (as I write this I wonder if the question is futile). There are claims of people who have multiple accounts and some getting banned and others not. And claiming it's on the same device. Is there any way that could happen?
  • Kingering_KingKingering_King Member Posts: 1,640 ★★★★
    Why can’t the ban be on forums too 😭
  • ShrodinbergShrodinberg Member Posts: 82
    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Can we just kick them off the forums as well? Not only have a bunch of people cheated and been caught but now half the threads are about how they are so hard done by and that it was a mistake they got banned.

    I hope you get banned soon for no reason! Let's see how much calm u stay! 🙂
    You were banned for a reason.
    Oh, I don't think so! Kabam will come up with some BS reason! Only time will tell!

    There r YouTubers who r mercing openly and yet their accounts haven't been suspended! So it's no surprise that Kabam has actually messed up big time! 🙂
    ...
    No one got banned for no reason.
    ....
    Yes, because Kabam is unerring and their software doesn't give any errors
    Everybody makes mistakes. But if Kabam's software was banning people for literally no reason, meaning it was just banning players randomly, we would definitely know it by now. First, because of the high probability of baning a high profile player, and second because Kabam has been investigating reports of errant bans, and so far hasn't actually found any errors. So if errors exist, they have to be very rare, and if the ban algorithm is making very rare error they almost certainly have to be being generated for some very odd corner case reason that makes those accounts unique for a very specific reason. Widespread random errors would have been spotted by now.

    To be honest, the more snarky comments like this I see, the less inclined I am to spend time trying to sort through this all. I've already spent more time looking, reading, and questioning, and so far the best I've come up with is wasting the devs time looking at a proven fraud.

    I am someone that has assisted players getting erroneous bans reversed. I don't assume everyone is lying or wrong. However, I have also seen enough vacations to Mexico to know that the vast overwhelming majority of the time people are lying or mistaken or both. The bans I got reversed were not random, they both had very obvious reasons for triggering the bans. Bans from out of nowhere for no reason are vanishingly rare.
    I don't we have our usual " i 've been banned for no reason, help me" weekend thread here ,
    If dowloading the official game client on official google play store if this one have been installed from an APK cause not preloaded on the phone result in a ban ( don't know if it's the case at the moment) we could have real " i didn't do anything" guys
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,389 ★★★★★
    forums right now: "why do i have to buy legal drugs from a legal pharmacy if i can just buy the same stuff laced with fentanyl from a drug dealer in a dark alley? c'mon, man! why u gotta take my stuffs??"
  • InspectorDREDInspectorDRED Member Posts: 92
    Stay banned. And/or restart with day 1 accounts. >:^)
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,389 ★★★★★
    bunch of lalins up in here. they're being ridiculous but you can't help but feel bad for them lol







  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,603 ★★★★★
    If @Kabam Miike was still here, he would have banned their forum accounts as well
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 808 ★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    If @Kabam Miike was still here, he would have banned their forum accounts as well

    And switched their 7 days to permanent
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 808 ★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    If @Kabam Miike was still here, he would have banned their forum accounts as well

    And switched their 7 days to permanent
    That was one petty man you didnt want to get on his bad side cause he could give to flying bucks lol
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,945 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Can we just kick them off the forums as well? Not only have a bunch of people cheated and been caught but now half the threads are about how they are so hard done by and that it was a mistake they got banned.

    I hope you get banned soon for no reason! Let's see how much calm u stay! 🙂
    You were banned for a reason.
    Oh, I don't think so! Kabam will come up with some BS reason! Only time will tell!

    There r YouTubers who r mercing openly and yet their accounts haven't been suspended! So it's no surprise that Kabam has actually messed up big time! 🙂
    ...
    No one got banned for no reason.
    ....
    Yes, because Kabam is unerring and their software doesn't give any errors
    Everybody makes mistakes. But if Kabam's software was banning people for literally no reason, meaning it was just banning players randomly, we would definitely know it by now. First, because of the high probability of baning a high profile player, and second because Kabam has been investigating reports of errant bans, and so far hasn't actually found any errors. So if errors exist, they have to be very rare, and if the ban algorithm is making very rare error they almost certainly have to be being generated for some very odd corner case reason that makes those accounts unique for a very specific reason. Widespread random errors would have been spotted by now.

    To be honest, the more snarky comments like this I see, the less inclined I am to spend time trying to sort through this all. I've already spent more time looking, reading, and questioning, and so far the best I've come up with is wasting the devs time looking at a proven fraud.

    I am someone that has assisted players getting erroneous bans reversed. I don't assume everyone is lying or wrong. However, I have also seen enough vacations to Mexico to know that the vast overwhelming majority of the time people are lying or mistaken or both. The bans I got reversed were not random, they both had very obvious reasons for triggering the bans. Bans from out of nowhere for no reason are vanishingly rare.
    Hey , another question. Again, assuming they aren't lying (as I write this I wonder if the question is futile). There are claims of people who have multiple accounts and some getting banned and others not. And claiming it's on the same device. Is there any way that could happen?
    Yes there is. No I can’t elaborate on precisely how.

    Well there’s one obvious way. One of the accounts was played on another device not shared by the other account, and something there is what triggered the ban.

    There are other less obvious ways but I can’t elaborate, and in fact I don’t know the precise details myself (anticheat techniques are one of those things even I am unable to get a lot of details about due to their ultra sensitive nature. Most of what I know comes less from people willing to tell me and more from me figuring it out myself and having people nod while whistling at the sky).
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,945 Guardian

    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Can we just kick them off the forums as well? Not only have a bunch of people cheated and been caught but now half the threads are about how they are so hard done by and that it was a mistake they got banned.

    I hope you get banned soon for no reason! Let's see how much calm u stay! 🙂
    You were banned for a reason.
    Oh, I don't think so! Kabam will come up with some BS reason! Only time will tell!

    There r YouTubers who r mercing openly and yet their accounts haven't been suspended! So it's no surprise that Kabam has actually messed up big time! 🙂
    ...
    No one got banned for no reason.
    ....
    Yes, because Kabam is unerring and their software doesn't give any errors
    Everybody makes mistakes. But if Kabam's software was banning people for literally no reason, meaning it was just banning players randomly, we would definitely know it by now. First, because of the high probability of baning a high profile player, and second because Kabam has been investigating reports of errant bans, and so far hasn't actually found any errors. So if errors exist, they have to be very rare, and if the ban algorithm is making very rare error they almost certainly have to be being generated for some very odd corner case reason that makes those accounts unique for a very specific reason. Widespread random errors would have been spotted by now.

    To be honest, the more snarky comments like this I see, the less inclined I am to spend time trying to sort through this all. I've already spent more time looking, reading, and questioning, and so far the best I've come up with is wasting the devs time looking at a proven fraud.

    I am someone that has assisted players getting erroneous bans reversed. I don't assume everyone is lying or wrong. However, I have also seen enough vacations to Mexico to know that the vast overwhelming majority of the time people are lying or mistaken or both. The bans I got reversed were not random, they both had very obvious reasons for triggering the bans. Bans from out of nowhere for no reason are vanishingly rare.
    I don't we have our usual " i 've been banned for no reason, help me" weekend thread here ,
    If dowloading the official game client on official google play store if this one have been installed from an APK cause not preloaded on the phone result in a ban ( don't know if it's the case at the moment) we could have real " i didn't do anything" guys
    Yes, it is entirely possible many players did not fully understand what they were doing and did not know they were doing something wrong. However, that points to part of the problem. This information is out there all over the place: in the TOS, in in-game messages, everywhere. You could argue it is still not entirely clear or obvious, but then how do you convince people to take this seriously? You could argue that no matter what Kabam said there would always be people who did not get the message, did not understand the message, or thought it wasn’t bad enough to draw a ban. Kabam can’t hold everyone’s hand and speak to them personally and say this time we really mean it and force them to acknowledge understanding. That’s impractical.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,849 ★★★★★
    There is a silver lining to the ban threads. I haven’t seen the Kamala 7* thread in a couple of days now.
  • D3X87D3X87 Member Posts: 30
    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Can we just kick them off the forums as well? Not only have a bunch of people cheated and been caught but now half the threads are about how they are so hard done by and that it was a mistake they got banned.

    I hope you get banned soon for no reason! Let's see how much calm u stay! 🙂
    You were banned for a reason.
    Oh, I don't think so! Kabam will come up with some BS reason! Only time will tell!

    There r YouTubers who r mercing openly and yet their accounts haven't been suspended! So it's no surprise that Kabam has actually messed up big time! 🙂
    ...
    No one got banned for no reason.
    ....
    Yes, because Kabam is unerring and their software doesn't give any errors
    Everybody makes mistakes. But if Kabam's software was banning people for literally no reason, meaning it was just banning players randomly, we would definitely know it by now. First, because of the high probability of baning a high profile player, and second because Kabam has been investigating reports of errant bans, and so far hasn't actually found any errors. So if errors exist, they have to be very rare, and if the ban algorithm is making very rare error they almost certainly have to be being generated for some very odd corner case reason that makes those accounts unique for a very specific reason. Widespread random errors would have been spotted by now.

    To be honest, the more snarky comments like this I see, the less inclined I am to spend time trying to sort through this all. I've already spent more time looking, reading, and questioning, and so far the best I've come up with is wasting the devs time looking at a proven fraud.

    I am someone that has assisted players getting erroneous bans reversed. I don't assume everyone is lying or wrong. However, I have also seen enough vacations to Mexico to know that the vast overwhelming majority of the time people are lying or mistaken or both. The bans I got reversed were not random, they both had very obvious reasons for triggering the bans. Bans from out of nowhere for no reason are vanishingly rare.
    Looks like they did ban ppl randomly. They admitted to FALSE positives
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