I was excited to put in the effort to knock out the whole thing day 1. Not worried about restrictions as my roster is pretty vast. Was expecting to probably have to make a few rank-ups, but not a big deal.
And then the quest came out. Restrictions aside, I just don't want to do it. The most demotivating thing Kabam could've done was release content like this. There's nothing enjoyable about it.
Im def going to be skip this content myself. I think that overall the content released this year by kabam has been mostly good til this.
Epoch is actually one of my favorite pieces of content ever. Its challenging as all hell but it was fun and using all of my roster to beat it was fun and felt FAIR rewards felt so powerful esp beating back when it came out.
The ordeal was solid. I already liked grandmaster gauntlet and this felt like a harder version but still very fair. And for its challenge rewards were satisfactory.
9.2 is fun and had solid rewards not too much to say there honestly.
Valiant gauntlet forces you to use A TON of your roster which is great and thats something that feels fair as its NOT restricted.
Wheel of fate is taking all the worst aspects of these quests. Made valiant gauntlets restrictions far far worse. Even more difficult than epoch thanks to these awful restrictions with rewards that dont cut it at all.
Wheel of fate had so much potential but when you compare it to literally any other content this year. Why not play the other content? Literally all 4 of the previously mentioned are far far better.
Just looked at KT’s thoughts on the first quest, the first fight on the second quest requires a size M champ with a defensive utility tag. The only champ I saw who could even come close to doing that fight is Wong. Really? One champ? Absolutely bonkers that being able to do a fight comes down to luck at pulling a champ.
I was excited to put in the effort to knock out the whole thing day 1. Not worried about restrictions as my roster is pretty vast. Was expecting to probably have to make a few rank-ups, but not a big deal.
And then the quest came out. Restrictions aside, I just don't want to do it. The most demotivating thing Kabam could've done was release content like this. There's nothing enjoyable about it.
Agreed. I have a few revives expiring & was figuring to use them doing at least quest 1. I'd rather get the small amount of gold for selling then than do this. My roster is fine for it, just don't want to. Especially considering the early rewards. I've got plenty of units & July 4 is 3 weeks away. I'll be able to get the same, if not better then
I think the issue Kabam has is ROL initially took months to complete. LOL, was a massive chore and if you look back it was recommended to have 3k-5k of units for an initial clear.
I do think it’s hard for kabam to make true Everest content that isn’t blitzed in hours after its released. But if the way they want do is through a restrictive design that can only be completed with specific champions, they need really future proof the rewards properly and make worth the champion chase. I believe 4th July sales starts in 16 days. The sale and unit deals are likely going to dwarf the rewards from this quest. It just feels oddly designed and oddly placed with the backdrop of a big sale coming up.
I was excited to put in the effort to knock out the whole thing day 1. Not worried about restrictions as my roster is pretty vast. Was expecting to probably have to make a few rank-ups, but not a big deal.
And then the quest came out. Restrictions aside, I just don't want to do it. The most demotivating thing Kabam could've done was release content like this. There's nothing enjoyable about it.
One part of this that is ticking me off, is that sometimes I would schedule a day to just do content like this. Call it nerdy, addicted, whatever you want. Now I know I would schedule some time; but nowhere near for fights that take 15 mins repeating the same thing over and over. Not only that, now they are lowering the scope of champs to use. So it's not I can do it on Sunday anymore, it's I don't have this, I gotta rank that, I gotta sit for 3 or 4 hours on Sunday.
When the game's #1 YouTuber as far as most subscribers comes out and completely blasts the content after just getting into the game again is not a good look.
And it’s not just Seatin. KT1, Lagacy, Vega, and others have all said how poorly designed the quests are and also super annoyed at the bait and switch with “12 defenders in a selector”. Go watch the first 5 min of vega’s stream and you can see how annoyed he is at getting baited with torch.
Anyone who can do this content relatively easily doesn’t need the rewards and for anyone who’s going to struggle to do the content their units are probably better spent during July sales.
Struggling to understand who this content is actually aimed at? Probably just top tier players with YouTube accounts.
They did say its aspirational content. Meaning your supposed to grow into it. Those whales with nearly all 7* max sig and r3 or r4 are obviously set. Everyone else is supposed to get around it eventually.
Yh and when some people grew into it these rewards will be absolute garbage. So the people didnt even need to do it later. Terrible Design all the way
Then its not meant for you atm. It's meant for people that are already ready to do it. Hence, ENDGAME.
They did say its aspirational content. Meaning your supposed to grow into it. Those whales with nearly all 7* max sig and r3 or r4 are obviously set. Everyone else is supposed to get around it eventually.
Yh and when some people grew into it these rewards will be absolute garbage. So the people didnt even need to do it later. Terrible Design all the way
Then its not meant for you atm. It's meant for people that are already ready to do it. Hence, ENDGAME.
But this content was advertised as aspirational. The rewards will be outdated long before the majority of the player base can even complete the first quest!! That is bad design
They did say its aspirational content. Meaning your supposed to grow into it. Those whales with nearly all 7* max sig and r3 or r4 are obviously set. Everyone else is supposed to get around it eventually.
Right but the rewards suck and by the time you grow into it you'll have better things to invest your time into, like banquet story content and other endgame content
Last time I checked, any amount of t7b is still a top reward. Even the biggest whale has a grand total of 10 r4s. There's far more than 140 7* available. That's less than 1/10th of a roster.
God forbid kabam actually releases content meant for the top 1% of the game once in a while. After all, they pay the bills so the rest of us can play for free. When's the last time kabam released content only the 1% could do?
They did say its aspirational content. Meaning your supposed to grow into it. Those whales with nearly all 7* max sig and r3 or r4 are obviously set. Everyone else is supposed to get around it eventually.
Yh and when some people grew into it these rewards will be absolute garbage. So the people didnt even need to do it later. Terrible Design all the way
Then its not meant for you atm. It's meant for people that are already ready to do it. Hence, ENDGAME.
But this content was advertised as aspirational. The rewards will be outdated long before the majority of the player base can even complete the first quest!! That is bad design
If they want it to be a long term goal i think rewards should have been better as say u dont have the options like purg gentle dazzler stark spidey as u havent went through ccp challenge u gotta wait a while, and i think by time 9.3 and 9.4 drops if both drop this year ur better looking at that long term than this quest which feels like another abyss of its gonna be outdated very quickly.
They did say its aspirational content. Meaning your supposed to grow into it. Those whales with nearly all 7* max sig and r3 or r4 are obviously set. Everyone else is supposed to get around it eventually.
Yh and when some people grew into it these rewards will be absolute garbage. So the people didnt even need to do it later. Terrible Design all the way
Then its not meant for you atm. It's meant for people that are already ready to do it. Hence, ENDGAME.
But this content was advertised as aspirational. The rewards will be outdated long before the majority of the player base can even complete the first quest!! That is bad design
If they want it to be a long term goal i think rewards should have been better as say u dont have the options like purg gentle dazzler stark spidey as u havent went through ccp challenge u gotta wait a while, and i think by time 9.3 and 9.4 drops if both drop this year ur better looking at that long term than this quest which feels like another abyss of its gonna be outdated very quickly.
That would definitely extend the lifespan of this quest. But I think it’s just so lazy to slap restrictions of this level on a quest. It’s such an artificial way to make something difficult. It takes the skill aspect out of the game, and make it purely a luck based quest. Do you have the specific champ? No? Then guess you’ll have to wait
They did say its aspirational content. Meaning your supposed to grow into it. Those whales with nearly all 7* max sig and r3 or r4 are obviously set. Everyone else is supposed to get around it eventually.
Yh and when some people grew into it these rewards will be absolute garbage. So the people didnt even need to do it later. Terrible Design all the way
Then its not meant for you atm. It's meant for people that are already ready to do it. Hence, ENDGAME.
But this content was advertised as aspirational. The rewards will be outdated long before the majority of the player base can even complete the first quest!! That is bad design
If they want it to be a long term goal i think rewards should have been better as say u dont have the options like purg gentle dazzler stark spidey as u havent went through ccp challenge u gotta wait a while, and i think by time 9.3 and 9.4 drops if both drop this year ur better looking at that long term than this quest which feels like another abyss of its gonna be outdated very quickly.
That would definitely extend the lifespan of this quest. But I think it’s just so lazy to slap restrictions of this level on a quest. It’s such an artificial way to make something difficult. It takes the skill aspect out of the game, and make it purely a luck based quest. Do you have the specific champ? No? Then guess you’ll have to wait
For sure its annoying since it could been better the restrictions but no the tags they used hurts since it is a waiting game and most content u cant wait as how the game is rewards in some content get outdated fast or some slower like epoch i think is still worth more the time than this
They did say its aspirational content. Meaning your supposed to grow into it. Those whales with nearly all 7* max sig and r3 or r4 are obviously set. Everyone else is supposed to get around it eventually.
Yh and when some people grew into it these rewards will be absolute garbage. So the people didnt even need to do it later. Terrible Design all the way
Then its not meant for you atm. It's meant for people that are already ready to do it. Hence, ENDGAME.
But this content was advertised as aspirational. The rewards will be outdated long before the majority of the player base can even complete the first quest!! That is bad design
If they want it to be a long term goal i think rewards should have been better as say u dont have the options like purg gentle dazzler stark spidey as u havent went through ccp challenge u gotta wait a while, and i think by time 9.3 and 9.4 drops if both drop this year ur better looking at that long term than this quest which feels like another abyss of its gonna be outdated very quickly.
That would definitely extend the lifespan of this quest. But I think it’s just so lazy to slap restrictions of this level on a quest. It’s such an artificial way to make something difficult. It takes the skill aspect out of the game, and make it purely a luck based quest. Do you have the specific champ? No? Then guess you’ll have to wait
For sure its annoying since it could been better the restrictions but no the tags they used hurts since it is a waiting game and most content u cant wait as how the game is rewards in some content get outdated fast or some slower like epoch i think is still worth more the time than this
I completely agree. The tags are way too restrictive
God forbid kabam actually releases content meant for the top 1% of the game once in a while. After all, they pay the bills so the rest of us can play for free. When's the last time kabam released content only the 1% could do?
Could you be so kind to let me know what would the 1% do with the "Special" WoF Selector?
If they have enough champs ranked up to get thus content done, they will for sure already have all of the champs from that selector.
So essentially Kabam create a content for the 1% with the rewards that mean very little to the 1%....interesting.
God forbid kabam actually releases content meant for the top 1% of the game once in a while. After all, they pay the bills so the rest of us can play for free. When's the last time kabam released content only the 1% could do?
Could you be so kind to let me know what would the 1% do with the "Special" WoF Selector?
If they have enough champs ranked up to get thus content done, they will for sure already have all of the champs from that selector.
So essentially Kabam create a content for the 1% with the rewards that mean very little to the 1%....interesting.
That selector gives a titan nexus. They may or may not have the 6 new champs added to the titan yesterday. So at least there is that. If nothing more they get sigs added to one.
God forbid kabam actually releases content meant for the top 1% of the game once in a while. After all, they pay the bills so the rest of us can play for free. When's the last time kabam released content only the 1% could do?
Could you be so kind to let me know what would the 1% do with the "Special" WoF Selector?
If they have enough champs ranked up to get thus content done, they will for sure already have all of the champs from that selector.
So essentially Kabam create a content for the 1% with the rewards that mean very little to the 1%....interesting.
That selector gives a titan nexus. They may or may not have the 6 new champs added to the titan yesterday. So at least there is that. If nothing more they get sigs added to one.
But 5 to 12 mins fight x 16 do that 3 times, that level of challenges, just for 20 sigs stone?
Something that the 1% can get easily?
Do you see the lack of logic in your discussion right?
God forbid kabam actually releases content meant for the top 1% of the game once in a while. After all, they pay the bills so the rest of us can play for free. When's the last time kabam released content only the 1% could do?
Could you be so kind to let me know what would the 1% do with the "Special" WoF Selector?
If they have enough champs ranked up to get thus content done, they will for sure already have all of the champs from that selector.
So essentially Kabam create a content for the 1% with the rewards that mean very little to the 1%....interesting.
That selector gives a titan nexus. They may or may not have the 6 new champs added to the titan yesterday. So at least there is that. If nothing more they get sigs added to one.
But 5 to 12 mins fight x 16 do that 3 times, that level of challenges, just for 20 sigs stone?
Something that the 1% can get easily?
Do you see the lack of logic in your discussion right?
Did ya read that I said may or may not? Believe it or not, there are people out there that enjoy the kind of stuff kabam just released. Remember, the forums are only 1% of the total player base.
Well that’s a bummer. I had been looking forward to FINALLY getting 7* Serpent, but I don’t think it is going to be worth it to me if it is this much of a slog. I don’t want to drop a ton of units on content that isn’t fun 16 days before the July 4th sale. Maybe I’ll feel differently if I have a bunch of units after the event.
God forbid kabam actually releases content meant for the top 1% of the game once in a while. After all, they pay the bills so the rest of us can play for free. When's the last time kabam released content only the 1% could do?
Stop it, Even scuffed Ironman isn't defending this garbage, get a hint.
God forbid kabam actually releases content meant for the top 1% of the game once in a while. After all, they pay the bills so the rest of us can play for free. When's the last time kabam released content only the 1% could do?
Stop it, Even scuffed Ironman isn't defending this garbage, get a hint.
Well since you're THE VALIANT, you got no reason to complain then right? Grow up.
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And then the quest came out. Restrictions aside, I just don't want to do it. The most demotivating thing Kabam could've done was release content like this. There's nothing enjoyable about it.
Epoch is actually one of my favorite pieces of content ever. Its challenging as all hell but it was fun and using all of my roster to beat it was fun and felt FAIR rewards felt so powerful esp beating back when it came out.
The ordeal was solid. I already liked grandmaster gauntlet and this felt like a harder version but still very fair. And for its challenge rewards were satisfactory.
9.2 is fun and had solid rewards not too much to say there honestly.
Valiant gauntlet forces you to use A TON of your roster which is great and thats something that feels fair as its NOT restricted.
Wheel of fate is taking all the worst aspects of these quests. Made valiant gauntlets restrictions far far worse. Even more difficult than epoch thanks to these awful restrictions with rewards that dont cut it at all.
Wheel of fate had so much potential but when you compare it to literally any other content this year. Why not play the other content? Literally all 4 of the previously mentioned are far far better.
Meaning there are 11,000 players with 7* rosters big enough for this piece of content
With 1,000,000+ players playing on and off in this game, that's 1% of the entire playerbase who can even consider playing this content
That's not taking into consideration the need to rank up those champions, even less players have those 7* champions at rank 3 currently
So the eligible audience for this content is like maybe the top 0.5% of the playerbase?
Agreed. I have a few revives expiring & was figuring to use them doing at least quest 1. I'd rather get the small amount of gold for selling then than do this. My roster is fine for it, just don't want to. Especially considering the early rewards. I've got plenty of units & July 4 is 3 weeks away. I'll be able to get the same, if not better then
I do think it’s hard for kabam to make true Everest content that isn’t blitzed in hours after its released. But if the way they want do is through a restrictive design that can only be completed with specific champions, they need really future proof the rewards properly and make worth the champion chase. I believe 4th July sales starts in 16 days. The sale and unit deals are likely going to dwarf the rewards from this quest. It just feels oddly designed and oddly placed with the backdrop of a big sale coming up.
Struggling to understand who this content is actually aimed at? Probably just top tier players with YouTube accounts.
community: "you think you can insult me with this cash grabby content? wait till i buy 4x those rewards in july. how bout that, kabam!"
If they have enough champs ranked up to get thus content done, they will for sure already have all of the champs from that selector.
So essentially Kabam create a content for the 1% with the rewards that mean very little to the 1%....interesting.
Something that the 1% can get easily?
Do you see the lack of logic in your discussion right?
This whole thread you have commented nothing but backhanded intentionally put negatives and things to incite already pissed playerbase.
But then acts all stingy when it's time to give actual rewards for end game content.
Make up your mind Kabam.
We have to make a choice
Wouldn't be end of world, game breaking if we get both selector and titan Nexus but Kabam
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Even scuffed Ironman isn't defending this garbage, get a hint.