Should older champs who are made available as 7*'s, be placed in the basic instead of the Titan?

TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 4,014 ★★★★★
edited June 21 in General Discussion
Been seeing some serious disappointment, and regrets over pulling duds from the Titan.

Titan crystals are extremely valuable, and for a lot of players, are still rare and not easy to get. Many are disappointed, and feel they are wasted when pulling an outdated or useless champ from the Titan, such as Red Hulk.

So I'm wondering.....if they're not going to be a brand new champ, buffed, or Saga chase champ, maybe Kabam can just make announcements introducing them as 7*'s, and instead of putting them in the Titan, send them straight to the basic?

Or maybe there could be some type of specialty "Throwback" 7* crystal or selector available to players, so that those who actually want them can get them that way instead of from a hard earned Titan.

Thoughts?

Should older champs who are made available as 7*'s, be placed in the basic instead of the Titan? 95 votes

Yes. Why?
71%
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No. Why not?
28%
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Comments

  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,774 ★★★★★
    No. Why not?
    Will3808 said:

    Rintrah, hood, superior iron man, and galan are all great, super useful champions who have been in the titan recently. They’re way more accessible in the titan, which I think is a good thing for the game.

    Well Supe was buffed last year
  • KØNGKØNG Member Posts: 56 ★
    No. Why not?
    While this is definitely one of the better Titans in recent memory, it’s still not the point of the Titan crystal. Everyone wants the biggest and best out of it. But the reality is it’s the crystal introducing the newest 7*s. Good, bad, old, new. It’s literally an introduction crystal. And people still get mad about that.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,061 ★★★★★
    I mean, what you're asking for is already happening with the way the Titan crystals work for the most part now.

    In the new Titan they added 5 "new" characters (including the cyclops buff) that don't yet exist outside of it, PLUS Galan. That's it. And anyone complaining about pulling Galan should have to lose their highest rated champion.
  • FaustOutLoudFaustOutLoud Member Posts: 30 ★
    Yes. Why?
    I think only great Basic 6* Champs should be added into The Titan pool such as champs like.
    Absman
    Dr. Doom
    Hulkling
    Kate Bishop
    Kingpin
    Zemo
    Scorpion
    AA
    Cassie
    BWCV
    Nimrod
    Ghost
    Wolverine but id like a Buff.
    This is pretty much all thats left to enter the 7* Pool as Powerful champs go imo.
  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★★★
    No. Why not?
    FaustOutLoud said:

    I think only great Basic 6* Champs should be added into The Titan pool such as champs like.
    Absman
    Dr. Doom
    Hulkling
    Kate Bishop
    Kingpin
    Zemo
    Scorpion
    AA
    Cassie
    BWCV
    Nimrod
    Ghost
    Wolverine but id like a Buff.
    This is pretty much all thats left to enter the 7* Pool as Powerful champs go imo.

    And CGR PLEASE 🙏
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,117 ★★★★★
    No. Why not?
    The titan is designed for new 7 stars to enter that pool first before entering the basic so you have a period of time to better target them if you need to. Sure some are worse than others but they're still new as 7 stars
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 1,973 ★★★★
    Yes. Why?
    Yes and no. I think it would be cool to have a community vote every cycle for 1-2 champs in the basic to be in both the basic and the titan (again if they were already in it). For example, for the next titan change the community could vote from all the champs in the basic and it would prob end up being like serpent and onslaught or something like that. But at least an opportunity to vote would even the playing field bc it could end up being someone that you wouldn’t expect - I know a lot of people who can’t pull or dupe Attuma 🤷🏽‍♂️. Just an idea who knows
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,166 ★★★
    Yes. Why?
    FaustOutLoud said:

    I think only great Basic 6* Champs should be added into The Titan pool such as champs like.
    Absman
    Dr. Doom
    Hulkling
    Kate Bishop
    Kingpin
    Zemo
    Scorpion
    AA
    Cassie
    BWCV
    Nimrod
    Ghost
    Wolverine but id like a Buff.
    This is pretty much all thats left to enter the 7* Pool as Powerful champs go imo.

    MISSING KITTY PRYDE
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,117 ★★★★★
    No. Why not?
    JackTheSnack said:

    Yes and no. I think it would be cool to have a community vote every cycle for 1-2 champs in the basic to be in both the basic and the titan (again if they were already in it). For example, for the next titan change the community could vote from all the champs in the basic and it would prob end up being like serpent and onslaught or something like that. But at least an opportunity to vote would even the playing field bc it could end up being someone that you wouldn’t expect - I know a lot of people who can’t pull or dupe Attuma 🤷🏽‍♂️. Just an idea who knows

    That sounds needlessly complex for what will amount to most people who have every character in the 7 star basic to complain that they're pulling basic champions from the titan
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,066 ★★★★★
    WednesdayLength said:

    JackTheSnack said:

    Yes and no. I think it would be cool to have a community vote every cycle for 1-2 champs in the basic to be in both the basic and the titan (again if they were already in it). For example, for the next titan change the community could vote from all the champs in the basic and it would prob end up being like serpent and onslaught or something like that. But at least an opportunity to vote would even the playing field bc it could end up being someone that you wouldn’t expect - I know a lot of people who can’t pull or dupe Attuma 🤷🏽‍♂️. Just an idea who knows

    That sounds needlessly complex for what will amount to most people who have every character in the 7 star basic to complain that they're pulling basic champions from the titan
    Not to mention, can we actually trust the "community " to pick good options? Remember that whole Kate as a 7* thing?
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 1,006 ★★★★
    edited June 22
    No. Why not?
    Buttehrs said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    JackTheSnack said:

    Yes and no. I think it would be cool to have a community vote every cycle for 1-2 champs in the basic to be in both the basic and the titan (again if they were already in it). For example, for the next titan change the community could vote from all the champs in the basic and it would prob end up being like serpent and onslaught or something like that. But at least an opportunity to vote would even the playing field bc it could end up being someone that you wouldn’t expect - I know a lot of people who can’t pull or dupe Attuma 🤷🏽‍♂️. Just an idea who knows

    That sounds needlessly complex for what will amount to most people who have every character in the 7 star basic to complain that they're pulling basic champions from the titan
    Not to mention, can we actually trust the "community " to pick good options? Remember that whole Kate as a 7* thing?
    Yall love to use that Kate and shang thing as if y'all even knew better then.
    If it were the same you'd still pick Shang over Kate if Kate released today and Shang was hot at the moment.

    Shang won because he was HOT at the time and Kate was relatively a new champ which the CCP played terribly. They barely stacked her coldsnaps and just cycled threw arrows which made her damage seem weak.

    Had it not been for necro, it would've taken a while longer for the community to realize Kate's potential.
    You can even go watch her deep dive dmg rotation and see for yourself. Not even kabam knew what they were doing and how to play her. She was showcased so poorly so I don't even blame CCP.
    First impressions of her were that she was an okay champ while Shang was a top 5 skill at the time. Now let me ask you, would you pick a new champ who you view as "Alright" over someone like okoye today even tho they have some hidden rotation that you don't know about? I'm guessing No.

    Also, the community knows better and would unanimously choose the champ who they view as best. The only disagree would come if it were two champs who are relatively great and offer different things which would make it a selection of preference. Eg viv vs cassie

    The community is not stupid. They're not picking a Carnage or cull over a Hulkling.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,066 ★★★★★
    NONYABIZZ said:

    Buttehrs said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    JackTheSnack said:

    Yes and no. I think it would be cool to have a community vote every cycle for 1-2 champs in the basic to be in both the basic and the titan (again if they were already in it). For example, for the next titan change the community could vote from all the champs in the basic and it would prob end up being like serpent and onslaught or something like that. But at least an opportunity to vote would even the playing field bc it could end up being someone that you wouldn’t expect - I know a lot of people who can’t pull or dupe Attuma 🤷🏽‍♂️. Just an idea who knows

    That sounds needlessly complex for what will amount to most people who have every character in the 7 star basic to complain that they're pulling basic champions from the titan
    Not to mention, can we actually trust the "community " to pick good options? Remember that whole Kate as a 7* thing?
    Yall love to use that Kate and shang thing as if y'all even knew better then.
    If it were the same you'd still pick Shang over Kate if Kate released today and Shang was hot at the moment.

    Shang won because he was HOT at the time and Kate was relatively a new champ which the CCP played terribly. They barely stacked her coldsnaps and just cycled threw arrows which made her damage seem weak.

    Had it not been for necro, it would've taken a while longer for the community to realize Kate's potential.
    You can even go watch her deep dive dmg rotation and see for yourself. Not even kabam knew what they were doing and how to play her. She was showcased so poorly so I don't even blame CCP.
    First impressions of her were that she was an okay champ while Shang was a top 5 skill at the time. Now let me ask you, would you pick a new champ who you view as "Alright" over someone like okoye today even tho they have some hidden rotation that you don't know about? I'm guessing No.

    Also, the community knows better and would unanimously choose the champ who they view as best. The only disagree would come if it were two champs who are relatively great and offer different things which would make it a selection of preference. Eg viv vs cassie

    The community is not stupid. They're not picking a Carnage or cull over a Hulkling.
    Kabam ain't stupid either. They not putting hulking in a choice like that. *shrug*
  • CrashOutCrashOut Member Posts: 32 ★★
    Yes. Why?
    I think it's unfortunate that champs like rulk are added but that's also some OP 6* champs not as 7* yet, like Galam who has been added to the titan

    Realistically, the question isn't add to titan or straight to basic... right now it's add to titan or pay wall the sh*t out of them 😂
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,364 ★★★★★
    Yes. Why?
    You nailed it in the description. It’s the most valuable crystal in the game. It shouldn’t include very non-valuable champs.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,117 ★★★★★
    No. Why not?
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    You nailed it in the description. It’s the most valuable crystal in the game. It shouldn’t include very non-valuable champs.

    The value is in specific targeting, not champion value
  • CheeseMaster482CheeseMaster482 Member Posts: 86 ★★
    Yes. Why?
    Not enough titan shards to justify their inclusion. Instead of putting them behind a paywall Kabam should introduce a quest where you can earn them through challenges.
  • DRagonKNIght27DRagonKNIght27 Member Posts: 85 ★
    Yes. Why?
    FaustOutLoud said:

    I think only great Basic 6* Champs should be added into The Titan pool such as champs like.
    Absman
    Dr. Doom
    Hulkling
    Kate Bishop
    Kingpin
    Zemo
    Scorpion
    AA
    Cassie
    BWCV
    Nimrod
    Ghost
    Wolverine but id like a Buff.
    This is pretty much all thats left to enter the 7* Pool as Powerful champs go imo.

    And cgr
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,499 ★★★★★
    Yes. Why?
    Will3808 said:

    Rintrah, hood, superior iron man, and galan are all great, super useful champions who have been in the titan recently. They’re way more accessible in the titan, which I think is a good thing for the game.

    This post poses a valid counterargument until you realize there arent that many rintrah or galan level 7* left that they can add, and no theyre most likely not going to add hulkling, scorpion , or kate unless its behind some form of paywall like next years HoF
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,499 ★★★★★
    Yes. Why?
    For anyone that disagrees, you will change your mind if you see my pulls here https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/397444/i-opened-7-titan-crystals-here-is-what-i-got#latest
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Member Posts: 789 ★★★★
    Yes. Why?
    Will3808 said:

    Rintrah, hood, superior iron man, and galan are all great, super useful champions who have been in the titan recently. They’re way more accessible in the titan, which I think is a good thing for the game.

    But Kabam Will drop You a ton of Red hulks lol
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 4,014 ★★★★★
    Syndicated said:

    Will3808 said:

    Rintrah, hood, superior iron man, and galan are all great, super useful champions who have been in the titan recently. They’re way more accessible in the titan, which I think is a good thing for the game.

    But Kabam Will drop You a ton of Red hulks lol
    And won't see a problem with it lol
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,500 ★★★★★
    You're never going to see a Featured Crystal without a range of Champs. That defeats the whole purpose of having an RNG system.
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Member Posts: 789 ★★★★
    Yes. Why?
    Terminatrix said:

    Syndicated said:

    Will3808 said:

    Rintrah, hood, superior iron man, and galan are all great, super useful champions who have been in the titan recently. They’re way more accessible in the titan, which I think is a good thing for the game.

    But Kabam Will drop You a ton of Red hulks lol
    And won't see a problem with it lol
    When You Need 2 simple champs to complete Wheel of Fate, but You only have Joaquín torres and Kraven, You Will see the problem.
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 844 ★★★
    NONYABIZZ said:

    Popped 13 basic crystals on the night of titan reset and got all dupes with 3 new champs being Elsa bloodstone and 2 other irrelevant champs that I can't even remember.

    Im not hoarding all my shards for a mass opening for just sigs when I was targeting a specific new 7star champion (looking at you valkyrie).

    Id rather they just came in the titan to increase my chances besides, I know exactly the champs I am at risk of pulling since the pool is very limited.
    Duds will come every once in a while but if thats the price I have to pay for actually getting NEW CHAMPS im willing to take it.

    Valk is not a 7* lol
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 2,902 ★★★★★
    Syndicated said:

    Terminatrix said:

    Syndicated said:

    Will3808 said:

    Rintrah, hood, superior iron man, and galan are all great, super useful champions who have been in the titan recently. They’re way more accessible in the titan, which I think is a good thing for the game.

    But Kabam Will drop You a ton of Red hulks lol
    And won't see a problem with it lol
    When You Need 2 simple champs to complete Wheel of Fate, but You only have Joaquín torres and Kraven, You Will see the problem.
    What champs are restricted to only champs in the titan?
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Member Posts: 789 ★★★★
    Yes. Why?
    Rayven5220 said:

    Syndicated said:

    Terminatrix said:

    Syndicated said:

    Will3808 said:

    Rintrah, hood, superior iron man, and galan are all great, super useful champions who have been in the titan recently. They’re way more accessible in the titan, which I think is a good thing for the game.

    But Kabam Will drop You a ton of Red hulks lol
    And won't see a problem with it lol
    When You Need 2 simple champs to complete Wheel of Fate, but You only have Joaquín torres and Kraven, You Will see the problem.
    What champs are restricted to only champs in the titan?
    Against Bullseye, u Need in Round 3 #2025 champs, against Dust, only have Kraven, that's a problem to me, Will wait for friday and the offers
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 4,014 ★★★★★
    Syndicated said:

    Terminatrix said:

    Syndicated said:

    Will3808 said:

    Rintrah, hood, superior iron man, and galan are all great, super useful champions who have been in the titan recently. They’re way more accessible in the titan, which I think is a good thing for the game.

    But Kabam Will drop You a ton of Red hulks lol
    And won't see a problem with it lol
    When You Need 2 simple champs to complete Wheel of Fate, but You only have Joaquín torres and Kraven, You Will see the problem.
    I Kabam was not seeing a probelm with dropping so many Red Hulks. Is Red Hulk one of the champs you need???
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