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PRICE THE OFFERS ACCORDING TO THE COUNTRY

LegendrvLegendrv Member Posts: 10 ★
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i think you kabam should price the games offers qith money to the specific country economy, to what amount can they spend on games and how much is the average pay of someone . The prices are just for US base which becomes expensive for people in developing countries
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  • Rudolph_RaindeerRudolph_Raindeer Member Posts: 346 ★★★
    Just buy from the online store. An ign Odin cost equal to 140 usd, where I live, so online store it is for me.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,305 ★★★★★
    edited June 28
    Steam used to do this or still does?
    But then people started to use VPN to buy games from cheaper regions.

    Maybe players would also use VPN to buy webstore deals.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,134 ★★★★
    There are billionaires in countries like India and America

    But both countries have vastly different GDP per capita so it's very difficult to implement in a fair manner for everyone
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,650 ★★★★★
    An enterprising person could probably find a way to appear to be in a country with lower prices and spend up big.

  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,987 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    For anyone saying there are complications in having country based prices, just look how other games have implemented it and copy the model.

    Vpn is a thing.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,561 ★★★★★
    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.
  • JhennyJhenny Member Posts: 143 ★★
    TotemCorruption said:

    UFC pay-per-view prices also vary by country.
    The problem is, this game is competitive, so it wouldn't be fair to give players in less affluent countries such an advantage.
    Like I think Beroman lives in Georgia (the country) and he buys up all the deals already.
    Does someone like that really need another advantage?
    Or else, people from these countries shouldn't be able to compete in War or BG?
    That's not fair either.
    I think if you can't afford the prices, you just play as an FTP, whether you're in North America or elsewhere.

    wait what, there's a person from my country playing the game??
    I have not heard of beroman
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,871 ★★★★★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.

    They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,987 ★★★★★
    JessieS said:

    Gamer said:

    captain_rogers said:

    For anyone saying there are complications in having country based prices, just look how other games have implemented it and copy the model.

    Vpn is a thing.
    It doesn’t work like this . Now I would never spent real world money on a mobile game but I play a lot of Pokémon Go and know people who do and they do purchase cheaper offers from India , Turkey and so on but it’s a very complicated process and definitely not something as easy as putting in a VPN. Like there was a Go Fest today so I guy was explaining how to do it and it’s a huge pain in the ass .
    May not be as easy that’s just do a vpn but tbh even pokemon go also. So busted. Now so many game now hav so much miro transaction.
  • OurobørosOurobøros Member Posts: 2,215 ★★★★★
    Gamer said:

    captain_rogers said:

    For anyone saying there are complications in having country based prices, just look how other games have implemented it and copy the model.

    Vpn is a thing.
    It's not about the region, but about the conversion of coin. There are U$9.99 deals for American payers, that costs R$54 or more, for Brazilian payers for example
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,561 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.

    They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
    I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
  • LegendrvLegendrv Member Posts: 10 ★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Graves_3 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.

    They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
    I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Graves_3 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.

    They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
    I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
    Bad for business, i think it would open up the business, food is cheap in my country , a meal could cost you around 4 for 2 people, i dont think it would cost the same in America. Every company that enters a new market for a country allways does some reach on economy and best pricing for the product not just set everything at par with taking a base country to everything

  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 21,015 Guardian
    JessieS said:

    Gamer said:

    captain_rogers said:

    For anyone saying there are complications in having country based prices, just look how other games have implemented it and copy the model.

    Vpn is a thing.
    It doesn’t work like this . Now I would never spent real world money on a mobile game but I play a lot of Pokémon Go and know people who do and they do purchase cheaper offers from India , Turkey and so on but it’s a very complicated process and definitely not something as easy as putting in a VPN. Like there was a Go Fest today so I guy was explaining how to do it and it’s a huge pain in the ass .
    It is probably more complex for Pokemon Go because Pokemon Go uses GPS, because it has to know where you physically are for the game to function at all. MCOC has no idea. In fact, MCOC has no idea where you are, what app store regions you're connected to, or anything else about you. There is absolutely no way for Kabam to know where I physically am**, and thus it would be much more difficult to enforce regional lockouts for stores.

    ** They can geolocate your IP address, like for account ownership verification, but that can be obscured in a number of ways, including by VPN usage.
  • JhennyJhenny Member Posts: 143 ★★
    DNA3000 said:

    JessieS said:

    Gamer said:

    captain_rogers said:

    For anyone saying there are complications in having country based prices, just look how other games have implemented it and copy the model.

    Vpn is a thing.
    It doesn’t work like this . Now I would never spent real world money on a mobile game but I play a lot of Pokémon Go and know people who do and they do purchase cheaper offers from India , Turkey and so on but it’s a very complicated process and definitely not something as easy as putting in a VPN. Like there was a Go Fest today so I guy was explaining how to do it and it’s a huge pain in the ass .
    It is probably more complex for Pokemon Go because Pokemon Go uses GPS, because it has to know where you physically are for the game to function at all. MCOC has no idea. In fact, MCOC has no idea where you are, what app store regions you're connected to, or anything else about you. There is absolutely no way for Kabam to know where I physically am**, and thus it would be much more difficult to enforce regional lockouts for stores.

    ** They can geolocate your IP address, like for account ownership verification, but that can be obscured in a number of ways, including by VPN usage.
    IPs like you mentioned are one of the easiest ways to identify locations and I am pretty sure your IP constantly changing around because of VPNs is definitely gonna set up red flags, hell I am pretty sure VPNs can even get you banned in game, I mean how else are they detecting account sharing?
  • JhennyJhenny Member Posts: 143 ★★
    edited June 28
    also its not true that the game doesn't know anything about you, because when you go to the unit store it will pick your currency to buy **** with, for me for example it uses Georgian Lari. NOT USD. So saying that they don't have any information on anything is straight up wrong.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,134 ★★★★
    If you can't afford to buy odins, you are not Kabam's target customer

    Just like Lamborghini target a specific customer base

    Cheaper EV brand like BYD target a different customer base

    Kabam have to focus their sales on those who can afford to buy odins instead of targeting every single player from every single geographical region with different GDP per capita

    Which is why I say Kabam is really nice by letting players farm unlimited units from arenas, this is meant for players who can't afford to buy odins, you can get as much units as you like from arenas based on your own effort

    It's like a free buffet where you can eat as much as your stomach can contain
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,541 ★★★★★
    Jhenny said:

    DNA3000 said:

    JessieS said:

    Gamer said:

    captain_rogers said:

    For anyone saying there are complications in having country based prices, just look how other games have implemented it and copy the model.

    Vpn is a thing.
    It doesn’t work like this . Now I would never spent real world money on a mobile game but I play a lot of Pokémon Go and know people who do and they do purchase cheaper offers from India , Turkey and so on but it’s a very complicated process and definitely not something as easy as putting in a VPN. Like there was a Go Fest today so I guy was explaining how to do it and it’s a huge pain in the ass .
    It is probably more complex for Pokemon Go because Pokemon Go uses GPS, because it has to know where you physically are for the game to function at all. MCOC has no idea. In fact, MCOC has no idea where you are, what app store regions you're connected to, or anything else about you. There is absolutely no way for Kabam to know where I physically am**, and thus it would be much more difficult to enforce regional lockouts for stores.

    ** They can geolocate your IP address, like for account ownership verification, but that can be obscured in a number of ways, including by VPN usage.
    IPs like you mentioned are one of the easiest ways to identify locations and I am pretty sure your IP constantly changing around because of VPNs is definitely gonna set up red flags, hell I am pretty sure VPNs can even get you banned in game, I mean how else are they detecting account sharing?
    This horse was beaten to death a long, long time ago. The use of a VPN absolutely does not result in action taken against an account. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,871 ★★★★★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Graves_3 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.

    They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
    I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
    From your initial response, it didn’t seem like you were aware. If you were aware, you were deliberately talking about something that no one in the thread was talking about. Aka trolling.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,134 ★★★★
    Yes why is FIFA charging my country exorbitant prices for world cup every 4 years just bcos my country is number 4 highest GDP per capita

    While developing countries get charged much lower prices

    How is this fair?

    This is what happens when you charge each country different prices for the same product

    Sell units cheaply to players from developing countries, great idea
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,561 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Graves_3 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.

    They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
    I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
    From your initial response, it didn’t seem like you were aware. If you were aware, you were deliberately talking about something that no one in the thread was talking about. Aka trolling.
    No, I wasn't trolling at all. I was explaining the way things operate. I wasn't aware I had to provide the reasons, but there you go.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,561 ★★★★★
    Legendrv said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Graves_3 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.

    They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
    I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Graves_3 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.

    They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
    I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
    Bad for business, i think it would open up the business, food is cheap in my country , a meal could cost you around 4 for 2 people, i dont think it would cost the same in America. Every company that enters a new market for a country allways does some reach on economy and best pricing for the product not just set everything at par with taking a base country to everything

    So you want Kabam to offer their product cheaper in some countries than others? How is that fair to every other consumer? Also, do you suspect that would put them in conflict with local laws and taxes on digital goods? In some cases, they wouldn't be making anything at all, or next to nothing. It's much more complicated than just offering a discount.
  • LegendrvLegendrv Member Posts: 10 ★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Legendrv said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Graves_3 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.

    They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
    I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Graves_3 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.

    They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
    I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
    Bad for business, i think it would open up the business, food is cheap in my country , a meal could cost you around 4 for 2 people, i dont think it would cost the same in America. Every company that enters a new market for a country allways does some reach on economy and best pricing for the product not just set everything at par with taking a base country to everything

    So you want Kabam to offer their product cheaper in some countries than others? How is that fair to every other consumer? Also, do you suspect that would put them in conflict with local laws and taxes on digital goods? In some cases, they wouldn't be making anything at all, or next to nothing. It's much more complicated than just offering a discount.
    So how is it fair that a person in usa has to just spent 5% of there salary to buy the offer while some has to spent 50% just to get the same thing
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