The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.
They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.
They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
Bad for business, i think it would open up the business, food is cheap in my country , a meal could cost you around 4 for 2 people, i dont think it would cost the same in America. Every company that enters a new market for a country allways does some reach on economy and best pricing for the product not just set everything at par with taking a base country to everything
So you want Kabam to offer their product cheaper in some countries than others? How is that fair to every other consumer? Also, do you suspect that would put them in conflict with local laws and taxes on digital goods? In some cases, they wouldn't be making anything at all, or next to nothing. It's much more complicated than just offering a discount.
Not all economies are equal. This is already an unfair system where these offers become less accessable in countries with weaker economies than those with stronger economies. Its a common practice now across the video game landscape, Steam being a particular standout that comes to mind having made stuff cheaper in Argentina and Turkey than in countries like the USA or Canada.
The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.
They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.
They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
Bad for business, i think it would open up the business, food is cheap in my country , a meal could cost you around 4 for 2 people, i dont think it would cost the same in America. Every company that enters a new market for a country allways does some reach on economy and best pricing for the product not just set everything at par with taking a base country to everything
So you want Kabam to offer their product cheaper in some countries than others? How is that fair to every other consumer? Also, do you suspect that would put them in conflict with local laws and taxes on digital goods? In some cases, they wouldn't be making anything at all, or next to nothing. It's much more complicated than just offering a discount.
So how is it fair that a person in usa has to just spent 5% of there salary to buy the offer while some has to spent 50% just to get the same thing
Because currency isn’t universally valued. That's a world issue more than an MCOC issue. Some dollars are worth more than others. It makes no sense, but it does at the same time. I could break down the economics of it, but that would venture into off-topic territory and be a lengthy discussion. As to your point, if someone in any country is spending 50% of their salary on the game, I'd suggest making sure they can afford to lose that much.
For anyone saying there are complications in having country based prices, just look how other games have implemented it and copy the model.
Vpn is a thing.
It doesn’t work like this . Now I would never spent real world money on a mobile game but I play a lot of Pokémon Go and know people who do and they do purchase cheaper offers from India , Turkey and so on but it’s a very complicated process and definitely not something as easy as putting in a VPN. Like there was a Go Fest today so I guy was explaining how to do it and it’s a huge pain in the ass .
It is probably more complex for Pokemon Go because Pokemon Go uses GPS, because it has to know where you physically are for the game to function at all. MCOC has no idea. In fact, MCOC has no idea where you are, what app store regions you're connected to, or anything else about you. There is absolutely no way for Kabam to know where I physically am**, and thus it would be much more difficult to enforce regional lockouts for stores.
** They can geolocate your IP address, like for account ownership verification, but that can be obscured in a number of ways, including by VPN usage.
No it has nothing to do with GPS. This is not about spoofing . From what I understood it’s about where your apples store registration is from . If you make it from India all the in game offers will be in Indian currency and much cheaper no matter where you are . But apparently it’s hard to pull this off and you can only use gift cards since otherwise you need a card issued in India and basically you can’t your phone to make regular purchases for anything else even outside Pokémon Go so people tend to use a second phone . And apparently on Android it’s even harder . Honestly I didn’t follow this closely because to me paying for Pokémon Go is insane when you can just play the game and get coins the free way but yeah it’s quite complicated so Kabam could set up a similar complicated system if they want to but why would they ? Their main point is to make profit and they can never hope to march Pokemon Go’s numbers so why bother catering to poor countries with lower prices
also its not true that the game doesn't know anything about you, because when you go to the unit store it will pick your currency to buy **** with, for me for example it uses Georgian Lari. NOT USD. So saying that they don't have any information on anything is straight up wrong.
As Jessie mentions above, when you use the in-app store, it is the App Store (Apple or Google) that calculates prices and sale TS currency based on the store region you registered for. MCOC does not do this, and in fact it doesn’t even know what you’re seeing. Both stores anonymize purchases. MCOC known account #1234567 purchased an Odin, but no information is given about who that is, where they are, what currency they are using, none of that is sent to the app developer.
The web store is different because you have to log into it with your Kabam ID and the webstore can relocate you by IP address. If you VPN yourself to Timbuktu to try to buy with different currency or pricing, there are some validation prompts it gives you to try to confirm that’s legit. But in theory, they are all spoofable.
For anyone saying there are complications in having country based prices, just look how other games have implemented it and copy the model.
Vpn is a thing.
It doesn’t work like this . Now I would never spent real world money on a mobile game but I play a lot of Pokémon Go and know people who do and they do purchase cheaper offers from India , Turkey and so on but it’s a very complicated process and definitely not something as easy as putting in a VPN. Like there was a Go Fest today so I guy was explaining how to do it and it’s a huge pain in the ass .
It is probably more complex for Pokemon Go because Pokemon Go uses GPS, because it has to know where you physically are for the game to function at all. MCOC has no idea. In fact, MCOC has no idea where you are, what app store regions you're connected to, or anything else about you. There is absolutely no way for Kabam to know where I physically am**, and thus it would be much more difficult to enforce regional lockouts for stores.
** They can geolocate your IP address, like for account ownership verification, but that can be obscured in a number of ways, including by VPN usage.
No it has nothing to do with GPS. This is not about spoofing . From what I understood it’s about where your apples store registration is from . If you make it from India all the in game offers will be in Indian currency and much cheaper no matter where you are . But apparently it’s hard to pull this off and you can only use gift cards since otherwise you need a card issued in India and basically you can’t your phone to make regular purchases for anything else even outside Pokémon Go so people tend to use a second phone . And apparently on Android it’s even harder . Honestly I didn’t follow this closely because to me paying for Pokémon Go is insane when you can just play the game and get coins the free way but yeah it’s quite complicated so Kabam could set up a similar complicated system if they want to but why would they ? Their main point is to make profit and they can never hope to march Pokemon Go’s numbers so why bother catering to poor countries with lower prices
The question was how spoofable this is. Alone, it’s spoofable because the game clients are not directly given purchasing information from the app stores. However, there are ways to correlate account transactions with client GPS information after the fact that might make this harder. I don’t know what the precise mechanism(s) they are using because I haven’t looked into it, but that’s one very obvious difference between MCOC and Pokémon Go I would use.
For anyone saying there are complications in having country based prices, just look how other games have implemented it and copy the model.
Vpn is a thing.
It doesn’t work like this . Now I would never spent real world money on a mobile game but I play a lot of Pokémon Go and know people who do and they do purchase cheaper offers from India , Turkey and so on but it’s a very complicated process and definitely not something as easy as putting in a VPN. Like there was a Go Fest today so I guy was explaining how to do it and it’s a huge pain in the ass .
It is probably more complex for Pokemon Go because Pokemon Go uses GPS, because it has to know where you physically are for the game to function at all. MCOC has no idea. In fact, MCOC has no idea where you are, what app store regions you're connected to, or anything else about you. There is absolutely no way for Kabam to know where I physically am**, and thus it would be much more difficult to enforce regional lockouts for stores.
** They can geolocate your IP address, like for account ownership verification, but that can be obscured in a number of ways, including by VPN usage.
No it has nothing to do with GPS. This is not about spoofing . From what I understood it’s about where your apples store registration is from . If you make it from India all the in game offers will be in Indian currency and much cheaper no matter where you are . But apparently it’s hard to pull this off and you can only use gift cards since otherwise you need a card issued in India and basically you can’t your phone to make regular purchases for anything else even outside Pokémon Go so people tend to use a second phone . And apparently on Android it’s even harder . Honestly I didn’t follow this closely because to me paying for Pokémon Go is insane when you can just play the game and get coins the free way but yeah it’s quite complicated so Kabam could set up a similar complicated system if they want to but why would they ? Their main point is to make profit and they can never hope to march Pokemon Go’s numbers so why bother catering to poor countries with lower prices
The question was how spoofable this is. Alone, it’s spoofable because the game clients are not directly given purchasing information from the app stores. However, there are ways to correlate account transactions with client GPS information after the fact that might make this harder. I don’t know what the precise mechanism(s) they are using because I haven’t looked into it, but that’s one very obvious difference between MCOC and Pokémon Go I would use.
No I mean it has absolutely nothing to do with GPS. In this case your physical location is absolutely irrelevant
Yes why is FIFA charging my country exorbitant prices for world cup every 4 years just bcos my country is number 4 highest GDP per capita
While developing countries get charged much lower prices
How is this fair?
This is what happens when you charge each country different prices for the same product
Sell units cheaply to players from developing countries, great idea
Are you trolling or are you really this ignorant on how well anything works
This was an actual issue debated in my country when FIFA raised the prices for my country every 4 years knowing we can well afford to pay for it while neighbouring countries pay much lower prices
There was an uproar and a proposed boycott on the world cup bcos my country isn't participating at all in the tournament
No one in my country feels it is fair that we pay more to view world cup just bcos our GDP per capita is 1 of the highest in the world
Sell units cheaply to players from poor countries, great idea, tell that to Kabam right now
The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.
They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
The prices are not within their control. They're all the same price on the part of Kabam, and the platforms adjust them based on local duties and taxes.
They are talking about something different. Not taxes and duties but the base price.
I'm aware. How would that be profitable as a company? They have no control over the economy of a country, but accepting much less from some countries is not only bad business, it's a Pandora's Box for problems because their services are much cheaper for some than others.
Bad for business, i think it would open up the business, food is cheap in my country , a meal could cost you around 4 for 2 people, i dont think it would cost the same in America. Every company that enters a new market for a country allways does some reach on economy and best pricing for the product not just set everything at par with taking a base country to everything
So you want Kabam to offer their product cheaper in some countries than others? How is that fair to every other consumer? Also, do you suspect that would put them in conflict with local laws and taxes on digital goods? In some cases, they wouldn't be making anything at all, or next to nothing. It's much more complicated than just offering a discount.
Not all economies are equal. This is already an unfair system where these offers become less accessable in countries with weaker economies than those with stronger economies. Its a common practice now across the video game landscape, Steam being a particular standout that comes to mind having made stuff cheaper in Argentina and Turkey than in countries like the USA or Canada.
I don't think it's common practice, I think some companies have elected to do this. That's because they can afford it. Steam has a net worth of up to 10 Billion. Kabam has a value of about 700-800M, and Netmarble had a profit of over 400M in Q1 of 2025, with an operating profit of 34M. Some companies can afford to do it, to put it simply. However, there are still conflicts within doing that.
Yes why is FIFA charging my country exorbitant prices for world cup every 4 years just bcos my country is number 4 highest GDP per capita
While developing countries get charged much lower prices
How is this fair?
This is what happens when you charge each country different prices for the same product
Sell units cheaply to players from developing countries, great idea
Are you trolling or are you really this ignorant on how well anything works
This was an actual issue debated in my country when FIFA raised the prices for my country every 4 years knowing we can well afford to pay for it while neighbouring countries pay much lower prices
There was an uproar and a proposed boycott on the world cup bcos my country isn't participating at all in the tournament
No one in my country feels it is fair that we pay more to view world cup just bcos our GDP per capita is 1 of the highest in the world
Sell units cheaply to players from poor countries, great idea, tell that to Kabam right now
So you literally had years to educate yourself on why this is an extremely stupid position to take and instead of educating yourself on the basics on how the world works you decided to parrot the ignorant mob and whine over imaginary injustices ? Did you pick the user name Jesus Christ because people keep exclaiming a desperate “Jesus “when you to talk to them ?
Yes why is FIFA charging my country exorbitant prices for world cup every 4 years just bcos my country is number 4 highest GDP per capita
While developing countries get charged much lower prices
How is this fair?
This is what happens when you charge each country different prices for the same product
Sell units cheaply to players from developing countries, great idea
Are you trolling or are you really this ignorant on how well anything works
This was an actual issue debated in my country when FIFA raised the prices for my country every 4 years knowing we can well afford to pay for it while neighbouring countries pay much lower prices
There was an uproar and a proposed boycott on the world cup bcos my country isn't participating at all in the tournament
No one in my country feels it is fair that we pay more to view world cup just bcos our GDP per capita is 1 of the highest in the world
Sell units cheaply to players from poor countries, great idea, tell that to Kabam right now
So you literally had years to educate yourself on why this is an extremely stupid position to take and instead of educating yourself on the basics on how the world works you decided to parrot the ignorant mob and whine over imaginary injustices ? Did you pick the user name Jesus Christ because people keep exclaiming a desperate “Jesus “when you to talk to them ?
I think you are plain dumb if you think that Kabam is going to price their units at a cheaper rate for players in countries with lower GDP per capita
That is not going to happen in this world
You should read up on capitalism and The Wealth Of Nations bcos your country is too poor to afford free education for ppl like you
Yes why is FIFA charging my country exorbitant prices for world cup every 4 years just bcos my country is number 4 highest GDP per capita
While developing countries get charged much lower prices
How is this fair?
This is what happens when you charge each country different prices for the same product
Sell units cheaply to players from developing countries, great idea
Are you trolling or are you really this ignorant on how well anything works
This was an actual issue debated in my country when FIFA raised the prices for my country every 4 years knowing we can well afford to pay for it while neighbouring countries pay much lower prices
There was an uproar and a proposed boycott on the world cup bcos my country isn't participating at all in the tournament
No one in my country feels it is fair that we pay more to view world cup just bcos our GDP per capita is 1 of the highest in the world
Sell units cheaply to players from poor countries, great idea, tell that to Kabam right now
So you literally had years to educate yourself on why this is an extremely stupid position to take and instead of educating yourself on the basics on how the world works you decided to parrot the ignorant mob and whine over imaginary injustices ? Did you pick the user name Jesus Christ because people keep exclaiming a desperate “Jesus “when you to talk to them ?
I think you are plain dumb if you think that Kabam is going to price their units at a cheaper rate for players in countries with lower GDP per capita
That is not going to happen in this world
You should read up on capitalism and The Wealth Of Nations bcos your country is too poor to afford free education for ppl like you
Whether they will or not depends entirely on whether they plan to actively target those markets or not and it has absolutely nothing to do with hysterical man children who don’t understand the basics of macro economy whining about their “fairness” and being too ignorant to realise how hilariously stupid and hypocritical they sound
Yes why is FIFA charging my country exorbitant prices for world cup every 4 years just bcos my country is number 4 highest GDP per capita
While developing countries get charged much lower prices
How is this fair?
This is what happens when you charge each country different prices for the same product
Sell units cheaply to players from developing countries, great idea
Are you trolling or are you really this ignorant on how well anything works
This was an actual issue debated in my country when FIFA raised the prices for my country every 4 years knowing we can well afford to pay for it while neighbouring countries pay much lower prices
There was an uproar and a proposed boycott on the world cup bcos my country isn't participating at all in the tournament
No one in my country feels it is fair that we pay more to view world cup just bcos our GDP per capita is 1 of the highest in the world
Sell units cheaply to players from poor countries, great idea, tell that to Kabam right now
So you literally had years to educate yourself on why this is an extremely stupid position to take and instead of educating yourself on the basics on how the world works you decided to parrot the ignorant mob and whine over imaginary injustices ? Did you pick the user name Jesus Christ because people keep exclaiming a desperate “Jesus “when you to talk to them ?
I think you are plain dumb if you think that Kabam is going to price their units at a cheaper rate for players in countries with lower GDP per capita
That is not going to happen in this world
You should read up on capitalism and The Wealth Of Nations bcos your country is too poor to afford free education for ppl like you
Whether they will or not depends entirely on whether they plan to actively target those markets or not and it has absolutely nothing to do with hysterical man children who don’t understand the basics of macro economy whining about their “fairness” and being too ignorant to realise how hilariously stupid and hypocritical they sound
Which is why I say you are just stupid to think that this is going to work or going to happen
Do you know what company is running mcoc, it's Kabam
Oh sweetie are you still trying ? It’s too late . You have already shown several times that you understand nothing about macro economics or even economics in general and your idea of “education “ is parroting the dumbest possible populist talking points and repeating what the mob says
Oh sweetie are you still trying ? It’s too late . You have already shown several times that you understand nothing about macro economics or even economics in general and your idea of “education “ is parroting the dumbest possible populist talking points and repeating what the mob says
You are just dumb, come on use your brain if you have one
If the whales find out that they are charged more for units than poor players in poor countries in a game that is so competitive right now, all the whales will stop spending and Kabam will lose most of the revenue and the game will eventually shut down bcos all the whales have left
Den poor players like you won't even get to play this game which is funded by whales for 10 years
Is this what you want? Do you want the game to shut down by chasing away all the whales?
Are you dumb or evil at this point?
Oh sweetie , truly you are beyond . It’s scary that people like you can vote . Your parents and your school truly failed you
Oh sweetie are you still trying ? It’s too late . You have already shown several times that you understand nothing about macro economics or even economics in general and your idea of “education “ is parroting the dumbest possible populist talking points and repeating what the mob says
You are just dumb, come on use your brain if you have one
If the whales find out that they are charged more for units than poor players in poor countries in a game that is so competitive right now, all the whales will stop spending and Kabam will lose most of the revenue and the game will eventually shut down bcos all the whales have left
Den poor players like you won't even get to play this game which is funded by whales for 10 years
Is this what you want? Do you want the game to shut down by chasing away all the whales?
Are you dumb or evil at this point?
Oh sweetie , truly you are beyond . It’s scary that people like you can vote . Your parents and your school truly failed you
You know nothing about running a business, consumer behaviour and consumer psychology
Whales aren't going to give poor players any advantage in a competitive mode like battlegrounds
If companies do adopt a model like this in less wealthy countries, it's not simply because they can afford to or some act of generosity, it would be because they have analysed that they will get more money from that country by selling more of a product for less (when affordable to more people), than they would selling less of a product for more (when fewer people can afford at the original price). If you were running a company that made digital goods that don't nominally cost anything per item to generate more of, you'd rather sell to 10 people each for $50 than only have one person there be able to afford $100.
If companies do adopt a model like this in less wealthy countries, it's not simply because they can afford to or some act of generosity, it would be because they have analysed that they will get more money from that country by selling more of a product for less (when affordable to more people), than they would selling less of a product for more (when fewer people can afford at the original price). If you were running a company that made digital goods that don't nominally cost anything per item to generate more of, you'd rather sell to 10 people each for $50 than only have one person there be able to afford $100.
This is the exact reason i believe they should have different price . The price for cloths , food , electronics etc is always different in different countries, tailerd towards more volume then quality. I guess it would just hurt the higher gdp people as they feel like they are being robbed by paying higher when they clearly earn more
Imagine players in poorer countries can buy titan crystals at a cheaper price than the price everyone else pays
Do you think the whales are going to accept this without complaining?
All the whales will ask for fairness and same price for everyone if not they will just leave the game bcos they feel robbed by paying higher prices for the same titan crystal
There are also millionaires and billionaires in countries like India with low GDP per capita
So the whales will be asking why other whales in India are paying lower prices just bcos they are living in different countries
Kabam knows this is unfair and very hard to justify to whales so they will never implement such a dumb proposal
If companies do adopt a model like this in less wealthy countries, it's not simply because they can afford to or some act of generosity, it would be because they have analysed that they will get more money from that country by selling more of a product for less (when affordable to more people), than they would selling less of a product for more (when fewer people can afford at the original price). If you were running a company that made digital goods that don't nominally cost anything per item to generate more of, you'd rather sell to 10 people each for $50 than only have one person there be able to afford $100.
Dude is a lost cause . He is projecting his own issues onto others and thinks that everyone feels the same way and that “feelings” are the same thing as economics . It’s a very widespread thing among those who are less educated and who have certain let’s call them ideological inclinations
I still don't understand why you would think that this is feasible
Only bcos you are dumb
Child you really need to calm down . If you any more triggered you might get a fit . People have already explained to you both the economic principles and the other examples of this being implemented without much of a problem . Educate yourself instead of throwing tantrums
I still don't understand why you would think that this is feasible
Only bcos you are dumb
Child you really need to calm down . If you any more triggered you might get a fit . People have already explained to you both the economic principles and the other examples of this being implemented without much of a problem . Educate yourself instead of throwing tantrums
That's why you are dumb in thinking that this can be implemented without much of a problem
Tell this to Kabam and hear what they will say about this dumb idea
You need brain surgery by this point to save your intelligence (stupidity)
Never seen such a dumbass in mcoc until now
If Kabam implement this den consider it that you win this debate if not it just proves how dumb you are before everyone in the forums
Oh sweetie … I see now that I have been too harsh on you . I shouldn’t have shut you down so hard , this clearly affected you a lot . So you know ? I will let you speak . You brought up FIFA . Talk about it . Tell us how you guys got outraged and mass boycotted the World Cup and FIFA was taught a lesson on giving you different prices and they lost a lot of money . That’s what happened right ?
What happened is that you lost the debate so now you are trying to change the topic by not responding to the actual topic of this forum thread
I thought you got something solid to argue for your case but it's all empty in your head
Now everyone knows how dumb you are, you are an embarrassment to the mcoc community
Oh sweetie … if you get any more triggered you might spontaneously combust . Do you need some reassurances ? Ok your screen shot of a random people suing is very impressive . Are you going to add one of some guy suing Marvel because Magneto totally trashed his car as well ? That will really “win” the “debate “ for you 😛
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As to your point, if someone in any country is spending 50% of their salary on the game, I'd suggest making sure they can afford to lose that much.
The web store is different because you have to log into it with your Kabam ID and the webstore can relocate you by IP address. If you VPN yourself to Timbuktu to try to buy with different currency or pricing, there are some validation prompts it gives you to try to confirm that’s legit. But in theory, they are all spoofable.
There was an uproar and a proposed boycott on the world cup bcos my country isn't participating at all in the tournament
No one in my country feels it is fair that we pay more to view world cup just bcos our GDP per capita is 1 of the highest in the world
Sell units cheaply to players from poor countries, great idea, tell that to Kabam right now
That is not going to happen in this world
You should read up on capitalism and The Wealth Of Nations bcos your country is too poor to afford free education for ppl like you
Do you know what company is running mcoc, it's Kabam
Oh sweetie , truly you are beyond . It’s scary that people like you can vote . Your parents and your school truly failed you
Whales aren't going to give poor players any advantage in a competitive mode like battlegrounds
Bcos Kabam also knows there are pros and cons to every plan
You think Kabam is so dumb like you to chase away the whales from such a profitable game
Do you think the whales are going to accept this without complaining?
All the whales will ask for fairness and same price for everyone if not they will just leave the game bcos they feel robbed by paying higher prices for the same titan crystal
There are also millionaires and billionaires in countries like India with low GDP per capita
So the whales will be asking why other whales in India are paying lower prices just bcos they are living in different countries
Kabam knows this is unfair and very hard to justify to whales so they will never implement such a dumb proposal
It doesn't solve anything but make Kabam suffer less revenue