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Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
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what do you think the invade meta final points for each bracket will be

( I got 350 points in Mysterium 1 and thinking of parking till I see the J4 deals and even after that )

will I finish in M3 at least or should I try and get to 400? ( AI and RNG can screw me over and I might tilt to 200 doing this tbh )

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  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,781 Guardian
    Based on my experience more than a year ago when I pushed mysterium, if I was M1 2.5 weeks in, then I'd be Arcane 2 by the end. That can be different now and anything could theoretically happen, it'll all just depend on what others do. In theory, parking there could get you C1 if everyone above you all lost all their points until they were behind you, or everyone behind you could push past you and you end up at the bottom of Uru.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,407 ★★★★★
    Won't you get demoted due to point decays?
  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 1,641 ★★★★★
    350 will probably be arcane 2 - quantum 3
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,407 ★★★★★
    Ok I have 150 points, can I get atleast gamma 3 or above? Current highest gamma 4 margin max is 101 it's unlikely to see a 49 point spike in just 8 days right or Am I missing something? I hate this meta and the difference between gamma and arcane ain't that big worthy enough to grind.
  • SakkbanSakkban Member Posts: 117 ★
    captain_rogers said:

    Ok I have 150 points, can I get atleast gamma 3 or above? Current highest gamma 4 margin max is 101 it's unlikely to see a 49 point spike in just 8 days right or Am I missing something? I hate this meta and the difference between gamma and arcane ain't that big worthy enough to grind.

    I'm in the same boat. I do enjoy the meta a bit more, but it is super difficult for me and reaching around 140 points was extremely hard. I have a feeling if I play a lot I will drop. Parking for now until the J4 deals come.
  • Zacharias10719Zacharias10719 Member Posts: 174 ★★★
    shield311 said:

    350 will probably be arcane 2 - quantum 3

    Top of Arcane 1 right now is 213. I doubt it's increasing that much in 8/9 days. We have until Wednesday for the 200 point radiance pushers and then we can see the real desire from people to continue playing
  • MystGMystG Member Posts: 147 ★
    I tried to move up from 151 points to 200 to get the objective. Lost 5 straight. Then won 5 and back to 157. Seems like a cealing for my roster and I'm not sure if I should give it another try or camp
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,407 ★★★★★
    MystG said:

    I tried to move up from 151 points to 200 to get the objective. Lost 5 straight. Then won 5 and back to 157. Seems like a cealing for my roster and I'm not sure if I should give it another try or camp

    Camp is the best option cuz even if you get to 200 the max (including 10k radiance form objective) extra you get from 200 points compared to current 157 is likely 20-25 k radiance only. You'll lose the same amount of radiance if you lose 2 matches in a row.

  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,859 ★★★★★
    Whatever Points people are targeting or sitting at, will increase by 100 in all tiers above Q. It happens every season during the last week, and mostly on last 2-3 days.

    But we won't see huge spike In points due to less people in gc this season. Last season was an anomaly when everyone and thier daddy started at v2.
  • MystGMystG Member Posts: 147 ★
    captain_rogers said:

    MystG said:

    I tried to move up from 151 points to 200 to get the objective. Lost 5 straight. Then won 5 and back to 157. Seems like a cealing for my roster and I'm not sure if I should give it another try or camp

    Camp is the best option cuz even if you get to 200 the max (including 10k radiance form objective) extra you get from 200 points compared to current 157 is likely 20-25 k radiance only. You'll lose the same amount of radiance if you lose 2 matches in a row.

    Well I just won two more matches and hit 189... But my heart is pounding to try another match lmao 🤣
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 2,962 ★★★★★
    MystG said:

    captain_rogers said:

    MystG said:

    I tried to move up from 151 points to 200 to get the objective. Lost 5 straight. Then won 5 and back to 157. Seems like a cealing for my roster and I'm not sure if I should give it another try or camp

    Camp is the best option cuz even if you get to 200 the max (including 10k radiance form objective) extra you get from 200 points compared to current 157 is likely 20-25 k radiance only. You'll lose the same amount of radiance if you lose 2 matches in a row.

    Well I just won two more matches and hit 189... But my heart is pounding to try another match lmao 🤣
    That happened to me too. I was over 180 and needed one more match to win.
    I was super nervous, haha

    Of course it went to 3 rounds, but I luckily managed to win round 3, just barely.
    Finally hit 200!
  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 1,641 ★★★★★
    Zacharias10719 said:

    shield311 said:

    350 will probably be arcane 2 - quantum 3

    Top of Arcane 1 right now is 213. I doubt it's increasing that much in 8/9 days. We have until Wednesday for the 200 point radiance pushers and then we can see the real desire from people to continue playing
    last season I ranked arcane 3 with 265 so its definitely possible.
  • ChiragcoolChiragcool Member Posts: 55 ★
    Would 93 points be enough for Gamma IV??
  • BostonSpidey124BostonSpidey124 Member Posts: 38 ★
    I think 350 will be Quantum 1 maybe Quantum 2
  • MystGMystG Member Posts: 147 ★
    edited June 24
    captain_rogers said:

    MystG said:

    I tried to move up from 151 points to 200 to get the objective. Lost 5 straight. Then won 5 and back to 157. Seems like a cealing for my roster and I'm not sure if I should give it another try or camp

    Camp is the best option cuz even if you get to 200 the max (including 10k radiance form objective) extra you get from 200 points compared to current 157 is likely 20-25 k radiance only. You'll lose the same amount of radiance if you lose 2 matches in a row.

    Dang I did it! Super lucky not faced any whales or modders and made to 205 points. Was literally shivering during final fight lmao




    Guess I'm gonna camp here forever unless I get demoted to gamma 4 in the next week 😂
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 2,962 ★★★★★
    MystG said:

    captain_rogers said:

    MystG said:

    I tried to move up from 151 points to 200 to get the objective. Lost 5 straight. Then won 5 and back to 157. Seems like a cealing for my roster and I'm not sure if I should give it another try or camp

    Camp is the best option cuz even if you get to 200 the max (including 10k radiance form objective) extra you get from 200 points compared to current 157 is likely 20-25 k radiance only. You'll lose the same amount of radiance if you lose 2 matches in a row.

    Dang I did it! Super lucky not faced any whales or modders and made to 205 points. Was literally shivering during final fight lmao




    Guess I'm gonna camp here forever unless I get demoted to gamma 4 in the next week 😂
    Dude nice! 💪💪
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 8,977 ★★★★★
    MystG said:

    captain_rogers said:

    MystG said:

    I tried to move up from 151 points to 200 to get the objective. Lost 5 straight. Then won 5 and back to 157. Seems like a cealing for my roster and I'm not sure if I should give it another try or camp

    Camp is the best option cuz even if you get to 200 the max (including 10k radiance form objective) extra you get from 200 points compared to current 157 is likely 20-25 k radiance only. You'll lose the same amount of radiance if you lose 2 matches in a row.

    Dang I did it! Super lucky not faced any whales or modders and made to 205 points. Was literally shivering during final fight lmao




    Guess I'm gonna camp here forever unless I get demoted to gamma 4 in the next week 😂
    Im camping in gamma 2 at 120 points so I think youre good lol
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    I played and dropped to as low as 220 then fluctuated between 250 and 300 ( a lot )

    what do you think the M3 cut off will be? it looks at 346 right now

    how many points will it go up in less than 24 hours till the end of season?
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,859 ★★★★★
    Wolf911 said:

    I played and dropped to as low as 220 then fluctuated between 250 and 300 ( a lot )

    what do you think the M3 cut off will be? it looks at 346 right now

    how many points will it go up in less than 24 hours till the end of season?

    +30-35 points max. Players will start to bundle at same points.
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,832 ★★★★★
    Interesting effect of the radiance addition and matchmaking seems to be parking by a lot of folks during the final few days.

    Are there hard chargers trying to climb another level or two? Always.

    But are there also plenty of players weighing the calculus of (a) losing a match and likely dropping a level vs. (b) winning a match and likely climbing a level.

    In many cases in mid to low GC, the incremental radiance isn’t that significant.

    Wondering if this is what was intended…

    Dr. Zola
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    DrZola said:


    In many cases in mid to low GC, the incremental radiance isn’t that significant.

    Wondering if this is what was intended…

    I think it was intended. The difference between radiance offered in mid to low tiers of GC is incremental but the gap between Q1 and M3 is 50k+ radiance and that is quite a lot.

    lot of Q1 players try to get into M3

    and a lot of M3 players try to stay in M3 either by parking ( if they have enough points ) or climb up

    which make these two most volatile brackets as there are quite a lot of players and matchmaking is lot quicker when compared to higher tiers
  • Doug555Doug555 Member Posts: 86 ★
    edited July 1
    I kind of do not see a point in having GC week 1-2 nodes almost at all. Hear me out.

    If VT has a set of not "too crazy" nodes so the majority of players (not just BGs grinders) can get to GC, the 1st two weeks of GC is just a variation of it, nothing new. While your final placement depends on your performance in the last 2 weeks of the season.

    Why not just have two metas for the whole season, VT and GC. It will:
    1. Give more time to practice the meta that will affect your final placement directly.
    2. Convinience of having just two decks for the season, or change it one time when you hit the GC.
    3. Avoid the issue of unnecessary parking and future "decay" function for people who are waiting for weeks 3-4 meta to start progressing.
    4. Less coding for the dev team.
    5. Less new champions to consider to rank up for two metas, than for 2.5.
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