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  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 2,152 ★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Squidopus said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Squidopus said:

    I appreciate Mike’s comments here but I don’t think it really changes my feelings on this matter. There has to be a middle ground between “wipe the metaphorical slate clean” and “whales with literal millions of relic shards saved get all 180 relics as soon as they launch without spending an extra dime”. The deep dive stated that there are no plans for new battlecast relics at this point, am I expected to hold on to these shards for another 2 years until you all finally have the time to make new ones and these finally have reasonable value again? If the problem is “too many people have mass relic shards that would trivialize collection”, then letting people sit and collect more shards only exacerbates the problem when you eventually do get around to it, which kinda erodes my trust that it ever will be “worth it” for Kabam to make battlecasts. I don’t see how my aforementioned limited conversion idea is impossible; give the folks who have been saving relic resources for the day y’all finally released new relics a bit of a deserved head start without letting them max out their collections instantly.

    And as a bit of an endnote, with no promises of battlecasts coming in the future, this makes battlecast relics shards a bit of a “dead end” resource; eventually you can collect them all and you can reach a point where they have literally no value (technically duping relics gives you a bit of gold and embers but let’s not pretend those really mean much of anything). I don’t think this is something that can be allowed to stand. Champion crystal shards always have value because there’s always new champs to collect, and their associated rank up and level up resources too by the same token. Mysterium, gold, radiance, loyalty, battlechips, they all continually offer some value in getting these always valuable resources. Battlecast shards are now the opposite, where I can reach a point where there is almost literally no more value in collecting them besides speculative hope - and yet Kabam will inevitably continue to offer them as rewards in content like the event and side quest. I strongly urge Kabam to consider this point heavily when considering the future of battlecasts, and realize that trying to kick the can down the road like y’all are doing now will only lead to a more explosive result when things come to a head.

    At this point, id be happy if they just removed all battlecasts when statcasts drop. Of course id expect some kind of refund from opening and upgrading them.
    Far from my preferred outcome, but I honestly wouldn’t even hate it. I just resent this IOU limbo Kabam is trying to pull, where they’re totally not gonna make battlecasts shards we’ve accumulated useless but also we have no plans on making new battlecasts but just trust us they’re still good rewards for content which is why we’re gonna keep giving them to you despite the fact that the backlog of shards everyone’s collected is the explicitly stated problem we’re dealing with.
    I get that theyll help new players. So fine, leave em as rewards for lower progression eq/sq/story. But the Paragons and valiants and whatever comes next don't need them if we're gonna get statcasts now. If they just took my shards and traded me say, 1 unit per 100 shards or something id be fine.
    At this point I am even fine with battlecast dups giving statcast shards, like 7* champs do with Titan shards.
    Something on the tune of
    3* battlecast dup give 250 Statcast shards
    4* Battlecast dup give 375
    5* Battlecast dup give 500
    I dunno I am just throwing numbers, but it really has to have more value than a bunch of embers.
    THIS I can get behind. Fantastic idea
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 2,152 ★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Squidopus said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Squidopus said:

    I appreciate Mike’s comments here but I don’t think it really changes my feelings on this matter. There has to be a middle ground between “wipe the metaphorical slate clean” and “whales with literal millions of relic shards saved get all 180 relics as soon as they launch without spending an extra dime”. The deep dive stated that there are no plans for new battlecast relics at this point, am I expected to hold on to these shards for another 2 years until you all finally have the time to make new ones and these finally have reasonable value again? If the problem is “too many people have mass relic shards that would trivialize collection”, then letting people sit and collect more shards only exacerbates the problem when you eventually do get around to it, which kinda erodes my trust that it ever will be “worth it” for Kabam to make battlecasts. I don’t see how my aforementioned limited conversion idea is impossible; give the folks who have been saving relic resources for the day y’all finally released new relics a bit of a deserved head start without letting them max out their collections instantly.

    And as a bit of an endnote, with no promises of battlecasts coming in the future, this makes battlecast relics shards a bit of a “dead end” resource; eventually you can collect them all and you can reach a point where they have literally no value (technically duping relics gives you a bit of gold and embers but let’s not pretend those really mean much of anything). I don’t think this is something that can be allowed to stand. Champion crystal shards always have value because there’s always new champs to collect, and their associated rank up and level up resources too by the same token. Mysterium, gold, radiance, loyalty, battlechips, they all continually offer some value in getting these always valuable resources. Battlecast shards are now the opposite, where I can reach a point where there is almost literally no more value in collecting them besides speculative hope - and yet Kabam will inevitably continue to offer them as rewards in content like the event and side quest. I strongly urge Kabam to consider this point heavily when considering the future of battlecasts, and realize that trying to kick the can down the road like y’all are doing now will only lead to a more explosive result when things come to a head.

    At this point, id be happy if they just removed all battlecasts when statcasts drop. Of course id expect some kind of refund from opening and upgrading them.
    Far from my preferred outcome, but I honestly wouldn’t even hate it. I just resent this IOU limbo Kabam is trying to pull, where they’re totally not gonna make battlecasts shards we’ve accumulated useless but also we have no plans on making new battlecasts but just trust us they’re still good rewards for content which is why we’re gonna keep giving them to you despite the fact that the backlog of shards everyone’s collected is the explicitly stated problem we’re dealing with.
    I get that theyll help new players. So fine, leave em as rewards for lower progression eq/sq/story. But the Paragons and valiants and whatever comes next don't need them if we're gonna get statcasts now. If they just took my shards and traded me say, 1 unit per 100 shards or something id be fine.
    At this point I am even fine with battlecast dups giving statcast shards, like 7* champs do with Titan shards.
    Something on the tune of
    3* battlecast dup give 250 Statcast shards
    4* Battlecast dup give 375
    5* Battlecast dup give 500
    I dunno I am just throwing numbers, but it really has to have more value than a bunch of embers.
    But people have millions of 6* Battlecast shards. If they're all dupes, that still might equal a hundred thousand statcast shards lol.
    Whales and savers are going to be whales and savers anyway they do it…
  • ShoNuff29ShoNuff29 Member Posts: 529 ★★★★

    Nah seriously How long has Kabam been giving this pretty much discontinued before announcement items as rewards?
    Every realm event, every BG season before switching to radiance, bunch of SQ and EQ rewards... All this time padding rewards with something that had no intention other that being discontinued at announcement.
    What a load of ****.

    Battlecast Shards are not discontinued. They'll still be available to obtain going forward, not every player has all the current Relics - and all Rank Up Materials earned can be utilized by both forms of Relics.

    The delta between players' hoarded battlecast shards is too large to responsibly launch a new resource utilizing those Shards.

    I've had them all for years, and my shard stash is gigantic - I would love it as a player if they shared the same shard source. For many reasons, it wouldn't make sense.
    Considering SIXTY new relics are coming in, there’s no reason that the battlecast shards shouldn’t convert. Also, conversion would have no affect on the new 7* relics. If acquisition was solely content based, MAYBE that reasoning would work, but there’s gonna be bundles o’plenty for sale so saying it’s unfair for some doesn’t make sense since there’s already going to be a method that creates disparity. If the reason, illogical or not, is unfairness, then put a cap on how many shards can be converted at each * level. 100k? 200k? 1M? Something..
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,274 ★★★★★
    ShoNuff29 said:

    Nah seriously How long has Kabam been giving this pretty much discontinued before announcement items as rewards?
    Every realm event, every BG season before switching to radiance, bunch of SQ and EQ rewards... All this time padding rewards with something that had no intention other that being discontinued at announcement.
    What a load of ****.

    Battlecast Shards are not discontinued. They'll still be available to obtain going forward, not every player has all the current Relics - and all Rank Up Materials earned can be utilized by both forms of Relics.

    The delta between players' hoarded battlecast shards is too large to responsibly launch a new resource utilizing those Shards.

    I've had them all for years, and my shard stash is gigantic - I would love it as a player if they shared the same shard source. For many reasons, it wouldn't make sense.
    Considering SIXTY new relics are coming in, there’s no reason that the battlecast shards shouldn’t convert. Also, conversion would have no affect on the new 7* relics. If acquisition was solely content based, MAYBE that reasoning would work, but there’s gonna be bundles o’plenty for sale so saying it’s unfair for some doesn’t make sense since there’s already going to be a method that creates disparity. If the reason, illogical or not, is unfairness, then put a cap on how many shards can be converted at each * level. 100k? 200k? 1M? Something..
    They've done it before. Remember, everyone's first 2 7* cost 10k instead of 15k.
  • ShoNuff29ShoNuff29 Member Posts: 529 ★★★★

    ShoNuff29 said:

    Nah seriously How long has Kabam been giving this pretty much discontinued before announcement items as rewards?
    Every realm event, every BG season before switching to radiance, bunch of SQ and EQ rewards... All this time padding rewards with something that had no intention other that being discontinued at announcement.
    What a load of ****.

    Battlecast Shards are not discontinued. They'll still be available to obtain going forward, not every player has all the current Relics - and all Rank Up Materials earned can be utilized by both forms of Relics.

    The delta between players' hoarded battlecast shards is too large to responsibly launch a new resource utilizing those Shards.

    I've had them all for years, and my shard stash is gigantic - I would love it as a player if they shared the same shard source. For many reasons, it wouldn't make sense.
    Considering SIXTY new relics are coming in, there’s no reason that the battlecast shards shouldn’t convert. Also, conversion would have no affect on the new 7* relics. If acquisition was solely content based, MAYBE that reasoning would work, but there’s gonna be bundles o’plenty for sale so saying it’s unfair for some doesn’t make sense since there’s already going to be a method that creates disparity. If the reason, illogical or not, is unfairness, then put a cap on how many shards can be converted at each * level. 100k? 200k? 1M? Something..
    To be fair he didn't say who it would be unfair for. Never said unfair for players, its unfair for their sales.
    🤣🤣
  • Avenger_A1Avenger_A1 Member Posts: 471 ★★
    edited July 5
    Hoarded relic shards will create an imbalance but selling them for money won't. Brilliant logic! Typical double standards.

    Imbalance is fine when Kabam gains, not okay when we do.
  • MindfulMindful Member Posts: 5
    Can someone verify if the 6 star relic nexus that are currently being sold(Heat wave sale) in the Greater Reliquary will have the 6 star Statcast relics in the pool? I’m on the fence on making the purchase if they are only going to include the old battlecast relics.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,738 ★★★★★
    Mindful said:

    Can someone verify if the 6 star relic nexus that are currently being sold(Heat wave sale) in the Greater Reliquary will have the 6 star Statcast relics in the pool? I’m on the fence on making the purchase if they are only going to include the old battlecast relics.

    Kabam's statement on your question is in this post.
  • MindfulMindful Member Posts: 5

    Gentsy12 said:

    The fact that kabam sold crystals last week (and still are) that are worthless in a month as they “have no plans to make any more battlecasts”. Classic bait and switch

    Any one that spent $100 buying a Reliquary that genuinely thought they would be able to use them on Statcasts is a fool.
    The Reliquary comes with 7 items.

    Units, as per the usual Odin - bonus gold...

    And then 5 relic-based materials.
    4 out of 5 of these Relic items can be used on Statcast Relics.


    Can someone clarify if I am interpreting this correctly. The 6 star relic nexus crystal won’t have the the 6 star statcast relics in pool. I understand the rank up materials can be used on the stat cast. Thanks!
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 14,662 Guardian
    edited July 5
    Mindful said:


    Can someone clarify if I am interpreting this correctly. The 6 star relic nexus crystal won’t have the the 6 star statcast relics in pool. I understand the rank up materials can be used on the stat cast. Thanks!

    ——

    Mindful said:

    Can someone verify if the 6 star relic nexus that are currently being sold(Heat wave sale) in the Greater Reliquary will have the 6 star Statcast relics in the pool? I’m on the fence on making the purchase if they are only going to include the old battlecast relics.

    Kabam has confirmed that current relic crystals will not give access to the new relics. This includes the nexus crystals in that deal. All other items will work for the new relics.
    ——
    Furry already answered with above in one of the several other places you asked this.

    And had also been mentioned in here that the Shards will only be good for the old Relics, so that means crystals, and thus Nexus crystal here.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,620 ★★★★★

    Gentsy12 said:

    The fact that kabam sold crystals last week (and still are) that are worthless in a month as they “have no plans to make any more battlecasts”. Classic bait and switch

    Any one that spent $100 buying a Reliquary that genuinely thought they would be able to use them on Statcasts is a fool.
    The Reliquary comes with 7 items.

    Units, as per the usual Odin - bonus gold...

    And then 5 relic-based materials.
    4 out of 5 of these Relic items can be used on Statcast Relics.


    Yes - I just meant the Relic nexus crystal itself. I don't understand how someone could seriously call it a bait and switch.
    It's not. They provide what is advertised, a Nexus which gives a choice of the current pool of available Relics. If they're releasing something new, there's no guarantee - or even way - to allow access to the pool of a new type. That may not be the answer people want to hear, but there it is.
    As for the exchange, I can see the argument for Players who have all other Relics and that's up to Kabam, but that entirely depends on whether they want to hold them at equal value. There's also the fact that Dups raise Sigs in an unlimited capacity, so they're not totally useless.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 4,114 ★★★★★
    edited July 6

    Nah seriously How long has Kabam been giving this pretty much discontinued before announcement items as rewards?
    Every realm event, every BG season before switching to radiance, bunch of SQ and EQ rewards... All this time padding rewards with something that had no intention other that being discontinued at announcement.
    What a load of ****.

    Battlecast Shards are not discontinued. They'll still be available to obtain going forward, not every player has all the current Relics - and all Rank Up Materials earned can be utilized by both forms of Relics.

    The delta between players' hoarded battlecast shards is too large to responsibly launch a new resource utilizing those Shards.

    I've had them all for years, and my shard stash is gigantic - I would love it as a player if they shared the same shard source. For many reasons, it wouldn't make sense.
    I don't understand. Instead of this new direction, why didn't you all just take that time and budget to make new relic champs like we had been requesting for over a year?

    Unless it's just me and I can't seem to pull a new relic no matter how many crystals I've opened, we have a total of only 24 relics. Each relic class has only 4 champs in each rarity.

    Mutant: Storm, Gambit, Sinister, and Wolverine.

    Tech: Hulkbuster, Vision, Sentinel, and Green Goblin.

    Science: Ant-man, Hulk, Cap, and Spidey 2099.

    Skill: Black Widow, Winter Soldier, Valk, and Black Panther.

    Mystic: Ghost Rider, Scarlet Witch, Juggs, and Iron Fist.

    Cosmic: Thor, Gamora, Venom, and Ms. Marvel.

    The main reason many of us have hoarded shards is because we haven't been getting any new relic champs to open them for. And some players relics are maxed out, but they keep getting shards in rewards. That's out of their control.

    What can we expect with this new relic statcast direction from you all? Will their new releases be more consistent? After a year of their release, will Kabam quietly go missing again when we ask for new statcasts?
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,231 ★★★★★

    Nah seriously How long has Kabam been giving this pretty much discontinued before announcement items as rewards?
    Every realm event, every BG season before switching to radiance, bunch of SQ and EQ rewards... All this time padding rewards with something that had no intention other that being discontinued at announcement.
    What a load of ****.

    Battlecast Shards are not discontinued. They'll still be available to obtain going forward, not every player has all the current Relics - and all Rank Up Materials earned can be utilized by both forms of Relics.

    The delta between players' hoarded battlecast shards is too large to responsibly launch a new resource utilizing those Shards.

    I've had them all for years, and my shard stash is gigantic - I would love it as a player if they shared the same shard source. For many reasons, it wouldn't make sense.
    I don't understand. Instead of this new direction, why didn't you all just take that time and budget to make new relic champs like we had been requesting for over a year?

    Unless it's just me and I can't seem to pull a new relic no matter how many crystals I've opened, we have a total of only 24 relics. Each relic class has only 4 champs in each rarity.

    Mutant: Storm, Gambit, Sinister, and Wolverine.

    Tech: Hulkbuster, Vision, Sentinel, and Green Goblin.

    Science: Ant-man, Hulk, Cap, and Spidey 2099.

    Skill: Black Widow, Winter Soldier, Valk, and Black Panther.

    Mystic: Ghost Rider, Scarlet Witch, Juggs, and Iron Fist.

    Cosmic: Thor, Gamora, Venom, and Ms. Marvel.

    The main reason many of us have hoarded shards is because we haven't been getting any new relic champs to open them for. And some players relics are maxed out, but they keep getting shards in rewards. That's out of their control.

    What can we expect with this new relic statcast direction from you all? Will their new releases be more consistent? After a year of their release, will Kabam quietly go missing again when we ask for new statcasts?
    They've explained that the old relics were too hard to balance which is why they only released a few of them, these new ones will be much easier to work around and they'll be releasing them in much bigger batches
  • EakomoEakomo Member Posts: 262 ★★

    Nah seriously How long has Kabam been giving this pretty much discontinued before announcement items as rewards?
    Every realm event, every BG season before switching to radiance, bunch of SQ and EQ rewards... All this time padding rewards with something that had no intention other that being discontinued at announcement.
    What a load of ****.

    Battlecast Shards are not discontinued. They'll still be available to obtain going forward, not every player has all the current Relics - and all Rank Up Materials earned can be utilized by both forms of Relics.

    The delta between players' hoarded battlecast shards is too large to responsibly launch a new resource utilizing those Shards.

    I've had them all for years, and my shard stash is gigantic - I would love it as a player if they shared the same shard source. For many reasons, it wouldn't make sense.
    I don't understand. Instead of this new direction, why didn't you all just take that time and budget to make new relic champs like we had been requesting for over a year?

    Unless it's just me and I can't seem to pull a new relic no matter how many crystals I've opened, we have a total of only 24 relics. Each relic class has only 4 champs in each rarity.

    Mutant: Storm, Gambit, Sinister, and Wolverine.

    Tech: Hulkbuster, Vision, Sentinel, and Green Goblin.

    Science: Ant-man, Hulk, Cap, and Spidey 2099.

    Skill: Black Widow, Winter Soldier, Valk, and Black Panther.

    Mystic: Ghost Rider, Scarlet Witch, Juggs, and Iron Fist.

    Cosmic: Thor, Gamora, Venom, and Ms. Marvel.

    The main reason many of us have hoarded shards is because we haven't been getting any new relic champs to open them for. And some players relics are maxed out, but they keep getting shards in rewards. That's out of their control.

    What can we expect with this new relic statcast direction from you all? Will their new releases be more consistent? After a year of their release, will Kabam quietly go missing again when we ask for new statcasts?
    They've explained that the old relics were too hard to balance which is why they only released a few of them, these new ones will be much easier to work around and they'll be releasing them in much bigger batches
    the real question is why not spend that time to also work on fixing the older relics that are frankly just terrible and striker fodder.

    what is the assurance we won't get another gambit relic situation with the new relics they probably didn't even test for.

    also to rank about the current relics, there are 4 relics per class and with idk around 35 champs per class, some champs can't even get benefits from any relic in thier class? why what was the design process with that
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,231 ★★★★★
    Eakomo said:

    Nah seriously How long has Kabam been giving this pretty much discontinued before announcement items as rewards?
    Every realm event, every BG season before switching to radiance, bunch of SQ and EQ rewards... All this time padding rewards with something that had no intention other that being discontinued at announcement.
    What a load of ****.

    Battlecast Shards are not discontinued. They'll still be available to obtain going forward, not every player has all the current Relics - and all Rank Up Materials earned can be utilized by both forms of Relics.

    The delta between players' hoarded battlecast shards is too large to responsibly launch a new resource utilizing those Shards.

    I've had them all for years, and my shard stash is gigantic - I would love it as a player if they shared the same shard source. For many reasons, it wouldn't make sense.
    I don't understand. Instead of this new direction, why didn't you all just take that time and budget to make new relic champs like we had been requesting for over a year?

    Unless it's just me and I can't seem to pull a new relic no matter how many crystals I've opened, we have a total of only 24 relics. Each relic class has only 4 champs in each rarity.

    Mutant: Storm, Gambit, Sinister, and Wolverine.

    Tech: Hulkbuster, Vision, Sentinel, and Green Goblin.

    Science: Ant-man, Hulk, Cap, and Spidey 2099.

    Skill: Black Widow, Winter Soldier, Valk, and Black Panther.

    Mystic: Ghost Rider, Scarlet Witch, Juggs, and Iron Fist.

    Cosmic: Thor, Gamora, Venom, and Ms. Marvel.

    The main reason many of us have hoarded shards is because we haven't been getting any new relic champs to open them for. And some players relics are maxed out, but they keep getting shards in rewards. That's out of their control.

    What can we expect with this new relic statcast direction from you all? Will their new releases be more consistent? After a year of their release, will Kabam quietly go missing again when we ask for new statcasts?
    They've explained that the old relics were too hard to balance which is why they only released a few of them, these new ones will be much easier to work around and they'll be releasing them in much bigger batches
    the real question is why not spend that time to also work on fixing the older relics that are frankly just terrible and striker fodder.

    what is the assurance we won't get another gambit relic situation with the new relics they probably didn't even test for.

    also to rank about the current relics, there are 4 relics per class and with idk around 35 champs per class, some champs can't even get benefits from any relic in thier class? why what was the design process with that
    They aren't fixing the old relics because not only do most of them not need fixing but they're just doing away with that whole system.

    The gambit issue won't happen again because these new relics are basically just stat focus with a striker and are much easier to balance. They aren't going to do as much as the old relics some of which were really strong, so there's far less chance of anything particularly over powered creeping through.

    It does suck that we didn't get more older relics that benefited characters that don't benefit from any particular relic we have, but the aim of the new relics is to make them much more applicable to a wider range instead of focusing on specific abilities some of which only applied to 5 characters
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,902 ★★★★★

    There were essentially two options at this time:


    1. We release new Statcasts with new Shards
    2. We don't release more Relics

    Relic materials have always had their own reward budget and never took away from anything else.
    If relics never took away from anything else, the rewards for BGs for over 2 years were worse than I thought they were.
    Shoutout to Radiance, amiright
    I like how I said over 2 years and your answer is something that was released 2 months ago. When was the last relic released?

    Gentsy12 said:

    The fact that kabam sold crystals last week (and still are) that are worthless in a month as they “have no plans to make any more battlecasts”. Classic bait and switch

    Any one that spent $100 buying a Reliquary that genuinely thought they would be able to use them on Statcasts is a fool.
    The Reliquary comes with 7 items.

    Units, as per the usual Odin - bonus gold...

    And then 5 relic-based materials.
    4 out of 5 of these Relic items can be used on Statcast Relics.


    We found out today that 4/5 items can be used on Statcast, see how time is a very important part of the equation?
    Yes, and Radiance fixed the problem of the poor Battlegrounds Rewards, which you pointed out.
    Why are we pretending like Relics were the only rewards in Battlegrounds for 2 years?

    Criticize everything you want to, but do so objectively.
    Radiance fixed the problem for the Celestial whales, not everyone else.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,231 ★★★★★
    Searmenis said:

    There were essentially two options at this time:


    1. We release new Statcasts with new Shards
    2. We don't release more Relics

    Relic materials have always had their own reward budget and never took away from anything else.
    If relics never took away from anything else, the rewards for BGs for over 2 years were worse than I thought they were.
    Shoutout to Radiance, amiright
    I like how I said over 2 years and your answer is something that was released 2 months ago. When was the last relic released?

    Gentsy12 said:

    The fact that kabam sold crystals last week (and still are) that are worthless in a month as they “have no plans to make any more battlecasts”. Classic bait and switch

    Any one that spent $100 buying a Reliquary that genuinely thought they would be able to use them on Statcasts is a fool.
    The Reliquary comes with 7 items.

    Units, as per the usual Odin - bonus gold...

    And then 5 relic-based materials.
    4 out of 5 of these Relic items can be used on Statcast Relics.


    We found out today that 4/5 items can be used on Statcast, see how time is a very important part of the equation?
    Yes, and Radiance fixed the problem of the poor Battlegrounds Rewards, which you pointed out.
    Why are we pretending like Relics were the only rewards in Battlegrounds for 2 years?

    Criticize everything you want to, but do so objectively.
    Radiance fixed the problem for the Celestial whales, not everyone else.
    Getting into gc gives you radiance at the end of the season, if you can't get there then you aren't ready for that radiance, but to say it's only there for mega whales is inaccurate
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