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  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,270 ★★★★★

    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    This seems too logical to actually do.
    This honestly seems like the worst idea (and others have mentioned it too). Imagine someone grinds BG in uru, but I'm a terrible player. However, I spend 8 hours a day grinding just BG. I'm going to face more modders than those who go straight to arcane and camp. Should I then be comped 300+ points from all the modders they lost to and jump those who didn't fight as many modders simply because they grinded but couldn't natural progress higher? If that is how it works, I'd actually bring BG just to get those free points at the end of the season.
    That's a big Imagine.

    Furthermore in a game mode based on 80 percent luck(draft, the state of AI you get etc), if someone has the luck of facing all modders, we as a player based will find it easy to deal with if the said player is given extra points.
    If the game mode was based on 80% luck why do we see the same 200 guys on the top every season?
  • Razorlord7Razorlord7 Member Posts: 190

    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    This seems too logical to actually do.
    This honestly seems like the worst idea (and others have mentioned it too). Imagine someone grinds BG in uru, but I'm a terrible player. However, I spend 8 hours a day grinding just BG. I'm going to face more modders than those who go straight to arcane and camp. Should I then be comped 300+ points from all the modders they lost to and jump those who didn't fight as many modders simply because they grinded but couldn't natural progress higher? If that is how it works, I'd actually bring BG just to get those free points at the end of the season.
    That's a big Imagine.

    Furthermore in a game mode based on 80 percent luck(draft, the state of AI you get etc), if someone has the luck of facing all modders, we as a player based will find it easy to deal with if the said player is given extra points.
    If the game mode was based on 80% luck why do we see the same 200 guys on the top every season?
    Because the other 20 is 🤑💰
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,270 ★★★★★
    edited August 3

    smdam38 said:

    smdam38 said:

    I would never reach or want to play at these “top levels”.

    Y’all are cutthroat.

    But do they not adjust points based on banned players at the end of events like this? No idea how it works.

    I guess that would be hard in this case as that specific modder probably stole a lot of points and possibly ranks along the way skewing the points for everyone except one player.

    It is a pretty slippery slope and definitely not cut and dry.

    No they don't. They take away from the cheater but the cheated is left empty handed.
    I believe AW is the same way, they dock points from the "cheating" alliance; but they don't give the points for winning to the cheated alliance.
    Then it definitely seems a favouritism thing and breaks the competitive nature of the game mode.
    Get to the top by being among the best...you'll be kabams number 1 favorite person and you can rise above the hate you get in forums. Fr
    Incorrect again. Bero was number one and he lost the points as quoted by OP.
    Things are different due to brawl.
    This was the first instance of immediate modder ban. Also bero calls most legit players modders when he lose, He has done it many times to drive views. He creates drama out of thin air.
    His words are as good as broken record at this point. A crying wolf ffs
    Himalayas calling.
    Says a lot about the game in itself when the top BG player creates drama out of thin air and cried wolf as per you.

    Let me know according to you whom would you recommend for watching on YouTube to learn the best celestial gameplay.
    He's infamous for doing things in the past. If you are not aware of it then that's on you.

    Why would I suggest you? For someone who is feeding the drama created by the drama creator.
    There are plenty put there.
    As for the suggestion part, there is none who has not cried wolf or complained on live chats about the state of AI and other issues which most forum defenders scoff off.
    Wtf? Now it's about ai and the state of rhe game rants?
    What does that have to do with creating drama on false pretenses?
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,270 ★★★★★

    smdam38 said:

    smdam38 said:

    I would never reach or want to play at these “top levels”.

    Y’all are cutthroat.

    But do they not adjust points based on banned players at the end of events like this? No idea how it works.

    I guess that would be hard in this case as that specific modder probably stole a lot of points and possibly ranks along the way skewing the points for everyone except one player.

    It is a pretty slippery slope and definitely not cut and dry.

    No they don't. They take away from the cheater but the cheated is left empty handed.
    I believe AW is the same way, they dock points from the "cheating" alliance; but they don't give the points for winning to the cheated alliance.
    Then it definitely seems a favouritism thing and breaks the competitive nature of the game mode.
    Get to the top by being among the best...you'll be kabams number 1 favorite person and you can rise above the hate you get in forums. Fr
    Incorrect again. Bero was number one and he lost the points as quoted by OP.
    Things are different due to brawl.
    This was the first instance of immediate modder ban. Also bero calls most legit players modders when he lose, He has done it many times to drive views. He creates drama out of thin air.
    His words are as good as broken record at this point. A crying wolf ffs
    Himalayas calling.
    Says a lot about the game in itself when the top BG player creates drama out of thin air and cried wolf as per you.

    Let me know according to you whom would you recommend for watching on YouTube to learn the best celestial gameplay.
    He's infamous for doing things in the past. If you are not aware of it then that's on you.

    Why would I suggest you? For someone who is feeding the drama created by the drama creator.
    There are plenty put there.
    As for the suggestion part, there is none who has not cried wolf or complained on live chats about the state of AI and other issues which most forum defenders scoff off.
    Fintech and msd they have never complained about somthing being false.
    Being annoyed and being willfully false for views are two different things.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★

    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    This seems too logical to actually do.
    This honestly seems like the worst idea (and others have mentioned it too). Imagine someone grinds BG in uru, but I'm a terrible player. However, I spend 8 hours a day grinding just BG. I'm going to face more modders than those who go straight to arcane and camp. Should I then be comped 300+ points from all the modders they lost to and jump those who didn't fight as many modders simply because they grinded but couldn't natural progress higher? If that is how it works, I'd actually bring BG just to get those free points at the end of the season.
    Kind of a weird take but yes. You have to break it before you fix it.

    Let it settle after the cheats lie.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,270 ★★★★★
    Bro you sided up with sdm... that's just low.
    Yes, we are on the opposite side of table on this topic(only in this thread ofcourse), that doesnt mean you side up with the crazy guy.
    I don't remember what comments you have made in the past, I only know that I see you in forums and you are active participant.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,270 ★★★★★

    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    This seems too logical to actually do.
    This honestly seems like the worst idea (and others have mentioned it too). Imagine someone grinds BG in uru, but I'm a terrible player. However, I spend 8 hours a day grinding just BG. I'm going to face more modders than those who go straight to arcane and camp. Should I then be comped 300+ points from all the modders they lost to and jump those who didn't fight as many modders simply because they grinded but couldn't natural progress higher? If that is how it works, I'd actually bring BG just to get those free points at the end of the season.
    That's a big Imagine.

    Furthermore in a game mode based on 80 percent luck(draft, the state of AI you get etc), if someone has the luck of facing all modders, we as a player based will find it easy to deal with if the said player is given extra points.
    If the game mode was based on 80% luck why do we see the same 200 guys on the top every season?
    Because the other 20 is 🤑💰
    Never not appreciated a joke... good on you.

    On the serious note, it's much much more than just luck. They are all part of the BG grind. Cash, luck, draft, deep knowledge and the ability to use that knowledge backed up with actual skill
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★
    Nobody said anything about compensation.

    Do you know how easy it is to look at who cheated and stole points and ranks?

    It’s not that it’s hard, it’s laziness.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★
    They somehow knew during a livestream that someone was cheating?
    How was that actually verified between one fight and the next?
  • Razorlord7Razorlord7 Member Posts: 190
    @SirGamesBond Bro with all due respect, you do understand that it'll be a great feeling if Kabam did make us low tier BG players feel like we also do matter. No matter if we're content creators or not, does it make us any lesser ?

    This just makes me feel the same. That while we all have lost points to modders playing across several BG seasons, we could have appreciated if for once there was a make up for all the losses it has caused.

    And for the losses part, I'm not just talking about the points earned. I want to highlight too that the irritation it creates overall for the game we all love.

    Otherwise why would we be playing if we didn't.

  • Razorlord7Razorlord7 Member Posts: 190
    smdam38 said:

    They somehow knew during a livestream that someone was cheating?
    How was that actually verified between one fight and the next?

    Check the screenshots bro. It's quite evident by just looking at the screenshot. I can't argue against Kabam there. It's pretty self evident.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★

    smdam38 said:

    They somehow knew during a livestream that someone was cheating?
    How was that actually verified between one fight and the next?

    Check the screenshots bro. It's quite evident by just looking at the screenshot. I can't argue against Kabam there. It's pretty self evident.
    So if they can do that, why are other cheaters still around?
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★

    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    This seems too logical to actually do.
    This honestly seems like the worst idea (and others have mentioned it too). Imagine someone grinds BG in uru, but I'm a terrible player. However, I spend 8 hours a day grinding just BG. I'm going to face more modders than those who go straight to arcane and camp. Should I then be comped 300+ points from all the modders they lost to and jump those who didn't fight as many modders simply because they grinded but couldn't natural progress higher? If that is how it works, I'd actually bring BG just to get those free points at the end of the season.
    That's a big Imagine.

    Furthermore in a game mode based on 80 percent luck(draft, the state of AI you get etc), if someone has the luck of facing all modders, we as a player based will find it easy to deal with if the said player is given extra points.
    If the game mode was based on 80% luck why do we see the same 200 guys on the top every season?
    Because the other 20 is 🤑💰
    Never not appreciated a joke... good on you.

    On the serious note, it's much much more than just luck. They are all part of the BG grind. Cash, luck, draft, deep knowledge and the ability to use that knowledge backed up with actual skill
    Gibberish, i get it now.

    You’re having a good night. Won’t go in.

    Hope you have a good night.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 10,100 ★★★★★

    @SirGamesBond Bro with all due respect, you do understand that it'll be a great feeling if Kabam did make us low tier BG players feel like we also do matter. No matter if we're content creators or not, does it make us any lesser ?

    This just makes me feel the same. That while we all have lost points to modders playing across several BG seasons, we could have appreciated if for once there was a make up for all the losses it has caused.

    And for the losses part, I'm not just talking about the points earned. I want to highlight too that the irritation it creates overall for the game we all love.

    Otherwise why would we be playing if we didn't.

    Dude that kiddie mode is comming. It was announced...
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,971 ★★★★★

    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    This seems too logical to actually do.
    This honestly seems like the worst idea (and others have mentioned it too). Imagine someone grinds BG in uru, but I'm a terrible player. However, I spend 8 hours a day grinding just BG. I'm going to face more modders than those who go straight to arcane and camp. Should I then be comped 300+ points from all the modders they lost to and jump those who didn't fight as many modders simply because they grinded but couldn't natural progress higher? If that is how it works, I'd actually bring BG just to get those free points at the end of the season.
    That's a big Imagine.

    Furthermore in a game mode based on 80 percent luck(draft, the state of AI you get etc), if someone has the luck of facing all modders, we as a player based will find it easy to deal with if the said player is given extra points.
    Um, it's not a big imagine. Someone playing more is bound to face more modders than someone who does just daily objectives. Ten modders in a month would leapfrog them from uru to gamma, even if they had zero points because they're terrible.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★
    In a competitive game mode, you CANNOT give one player an advantage. It’s recorded online.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,270 ★★★★★

    @SirGamesBond Bro with all due respect, you do understand that it'll be a great feeling if Kabam did make us low tier BG players feel like we also do matter. No matter if we're content creators or not, does it make us any lesser ?

    This just makes me feel the same. That while we all have lost points to modders playing across several BG seasons, we could have appreciated if for once there was a make up for all the losses it has caused.

    And for the losses part, I'm not just talking about the points earned. I want to highlight too that the irritation it creates overall for the game we all love.

    Otherwise why would we be playing if we didn't.

    As a not celestial player, I do expect kabam to put more effort on blatant cheating.
    The top guys are given favours only cus they are the face of the game to the whole wide world. It is significat in that aspect.
    This lagacy case was mere coincidence and I'm only on the side of legit players, vs modders who ruin things for everyone. He only got saved once in the history of BG bans. It also helped that the match went to round three, if it wasn't for that and lagacy would've lost both rounds, thisbthread won't be here and the modder still would have been banned.

    I don't know, we are not in a position to comment on how they can make things better for the rest of us.
    In my opinion, it's hard for all gaming companies to fight vs cheaters. Even the top billion dollar companies like EA can't eliminate cheating compeltly. They are much bigger than kabam with bigger teams. World of warcraft game has moderators(active players) who ban cheaters when they find them. Maybe kabam will give that power to thier trusted players (or official team members) when they grow more....
    That would be great ngl, having more official people around more streams.
    But, that still will only work for streamers, and the modder ban would still take some time before he could be stopped. The points he took will still be problem to solve.

    Right at this moment, they don't know how they can fix the points. This is beyond my imagination, I can't even come up with an idea on how to.

    I like the sound of them making amends for the losses. COMPENSATION (jk (not really) (jk))

    Players are valued. Doesn't look like it from outside but we are. The cheating was pretty bad few years ago. Now there's a team who handle bans. Then there are also misinformed players who report legit players. Which just make things harder for them and end up costing extra time. Because in the complicated cases, it's all manual work. Some guys are trying to figure out the cheaters vs legit players.

    That code guy cheated the system for long, then one day hit his own leg with the flex upload of a modded bg fight, Rofl.

    The modders are indeed getting banned everyday. There's no doubt about it.
    I said earlier in the thread, kabam need much better tools and more people to counter it in the end.
  • CheeseMaster482CheeseMaster482 Member Posts: 391 ★★★
    Loses to a modder once every 20 matches and starts crying they can't get back their 16 points in uru. Yeah buddy, you lost nothing of importance, obviously the guy at the highest rank who is also trying to qualify for the Battlerealm Brawl gets special treatment.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,270 ★★★★★

    smdam38 said:

    They somehow knew during a livestream that someone was cheating?
    How was that actually verified between one fight and the next?

    It's quite evident by just looking at the screenshot. I can't argue against Kabam there. It's pretty self evident.
    Watch the stream... you'll know how it happened.
    He cried for help and the kabam police was right on the scene to try and stop it.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,800 ★★★★★

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    Agreed, although I don’t think Kabams anticheat detection is that sophisticated unfortunately.

    I don’t see an issue if Kabam see’s a cheater live, and take immediate action. The only consideration for me would be if a Kabam employee has been confirmed to see modders live on other players streams and not done anything.
  • Razorlord7Razorlord7 Member Posts: 190

    @SirGamesBond Bro with all due respect, you do understand that it'll be a great feeling if Kabam did make us low tier BG players feel like we also do matter. No matter if we're content creators or not, does it make us any lesser ?

    This just makes me feel the same. That while we all have lost points to modders playing across several BG seasons, we could have appreciated if for once there was a make up for all the losses it has caused.

    And for the losses part, I'm not just talking about the points earned. I want to highlight too that the irritation it creates overall for the game we all love.

    Otherwise why would we be playing if we didn't.

    As a not celestial player, I do expect kabam to put more effort on blatant cheating.
    The top guys are given favours only cus they are the face of the game to the whole wide world. It is significat in that aspect.
    This lagacy case was mere coincidence and I'm only on the side of legit players, vs modders who ruin things for everyone. He only got saved once in the history of BG bans. It also helped that the match went to round three, if it wasn't for that and lagacy would've lost both rounds, thisbthread won't be here and the modder still would have been banned.

    I don't know, we are not in a position to comment on how they can make things better for the rest of us.
    In my opinion, it's hard for all gaming companies to fight vs cheaters. Even the top billion dollar companies like EA can't eliminate cheating compeltly. They are much bigger than kabam with bigger teams. World of warcraft game has moderators(active players) who ban cheaters when they find them. Maybe kabam will give that power to thier trusted players (or official team members) when they grow more....
    That would be great ngl, having more official people around more streams.
    But, that still will only work for streamers, and the modder ban would still take some time before he could be stopped. The points he took will still be problem to solve.

    Right at this moment, they don't know how they can fix the points. This is beyond my imagination, I can't even come up with an idea on how to.

    I like the sound of them making amends for the losses. COMPENSATION (jk (not really) (jk))

    Players are valued. Doesn't look like it from outside but we are. The cheating was pretty bad few years ago. Now there's a team who handle bans. Then there are also misinformed players who report legit players. Which just make things harder for them and end up costing extra time. Because in the complicated cases, it's all manual work. Some guys are trying to figure out the cheaters vs legit players.

    That code guy cheated the system for long, then one day hit his own leg with the flex upload of a modded bg fight, Rofl.

    The modders are indeed getting banned everyday. There's no doubt about it.
    I said earlier in the thread, kabam need much better tools and more people to counter it in the end.
    Agreed on all points. Compensation is not what I asked for. A genuine livestream and 7500 7 star shards as a gesture for all players that did not get banned for cheating in a particular season.

    I have over 130 7 stars and half of them are already duped. So 7.5k shards ain't making s difference. It's the gesture that does.

    I guess it's all about the long term perception you want to build and show that the company does care for the rough experiences.
  • Razorlord7Razorlord7 Member Posts: 190

    Loses to a modder once every 20 matches and starts crying they can't get back their 16 points in uru. Yeah buddy, you lost nothing of importance, obviously the guy at the highest rank who is also trying to qualify for the Battlerealm Brawl gets special treatment.

    Who are you referencing here ?
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    Agreed, although I don’t think Kabams anticheat detection is that sophisticated unfortunately.

    I don’t see an issue if Kabam see’s a cheater live, and take immediate action. The only consideration for me would be if a Kabam employee has been confirmed to see modders live on other players streams and not done anything.
    They don’t have anticheat. They paid a company that everyone has figured out how to get around years ago.

    How did they figure out it was a cheater from one fight to the next?
    Was there any type of investigation?
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 10,100 ★★★★★
    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    Agreed, although I don’t think Kabams anticheat detection is that sophisticated unfortunately.

    I don’t see an issue if Kabam see’s a cheater live, and take immediate action. The only consideration for me would be if a Kabam employee has been confirmed to see modders live on other players streams and not done anything.
    They don’t have anticheat. They paid a company that everyone has figured out how to get around years ago.

    How did they figure out it was a cheater from one fight to the next?
    Was there any type of investigation?
    You obviously haven't played BGs....
    Yelena on this meta at full health in 21 seconds with that little r1 Strife? Not happening.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★

    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    Agreed, although I don’t think Kabams anticheat detection is that sophisticated unfortunately.

    I don’t see an issue if Kabam see’s a cheater live, and take immediate action. The only consideration for me would be if a Kabam employee has been confirmed to see modders live on other players streams and not done anything.
    They don’t have anticheat. They paid a company that everyone has figured out how to get around years ago.

    How did they figure out it was a cheater from one fight to the next?
    Was there any type of investigation?
    You obviously haven't played BGs....
    Yelena on this meta at full health in 21 seconds with that little r1 Strife? Not happening.
    Ok. But an instaban? Zero investigation?

    And somehow made it to that high of a level.
    Only got banned when facing this guy?
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,800 ★★★★★
    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    Agreed, although I don’t think Kabams anticheat detection is that sophisticated unfortunately.

    I don’t see an issue if Kabam see’s a cheater live, and take immediate action. The only consideration for me would be if a Kabam employee has been confirmed to see modders live on other players streams and not done anything.
    They don’t have anticheat. They paid a company that everyone has figured out how to get around years ago.

    How did they figure out it was a cheater from one fight to the next?
    Was there any type of investigation?
    I was watching lags stream live when it happened. It was crystal clear it was a modder
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    Agreed, although I don’t think Kabams anticheat detection is that sophisticated unfortunately.

    I don’t see an issue if Kabam see’s a cheater live, and take immediate action. The only consideration for me would be if a Kabam employee has been confirmed to see modders live on other players streams and not done anything.
    They don’t have anticheat. They paid a company that everyone has figured out how to get around years ago.

    How did they figure out it was a cheater from one fight to the next?
    Was there any type of investigation?
    I was watching lags stream live when it happened. It was crystal clear it was a modder
    I get that. But how does that make anything I said different?

    Was it magically investigated between rounds?
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★
    If this is how competitive gaming works here, why would anyone stay.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,393 ★★★★
    Play the game then I guess.

    I am tired of being loyal in an ecosystem that doesn’t return the respect.
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 3,053 ★★★★★

    smdam38 said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Kabam banning a cheater immediately and preventing other players losing points when facing them is a good thing surely?

    I can’t imagine Kabam get to see many instances of actual live cheating happening in BG’s, so I can understand that they went outside their BAU ban process.

    OP has an irrational hatred of Lag’s though so there’s definitely some bias going on here on their part..

    A better thing will be to return the points lost to all the players that this and other cheaters played against surely ?
    This seems too logical to actually do.
    This honestly seems like the worst idea (and others have mentioned it too). Imagine someone grinds BG in uru, but I'm a terrible player. However, I spend 8 hours a day grinding just BG. I'm going to face more modders than those who go straight to arcane and camp. Should I then be comped 300+ points from all the modders they lost to and jump those who didn't fight as many modders simply because they grinded but couldn't natural progress higher? If that is how it works, I'd actually bring BG just to get those free points at the end of the season.
    That's a big Imagine.

    Furthermore in a game mode based on 80 percent luck(draft, the state of AI you get etc), if someone has the luck of facing all modders, we as a player based will find it easy to deal with if the said player is given extra points.
    If the game mode was based on 80% luck why do we see the same 200 guys on the top every season?
    Because the other 20 is 🤑💰
    Money doesn't buy skill, my dude.
    They're all spenders at the top, but they have the skill to back it up, unlike my last bg opponent who was all money but no skill.

    I regularly face whales in bgs in lowly arcane and smash them because as I just said, money doesn't buy skill.
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