**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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Illogix
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Are we allowed to discuss the Terms of Service on the forums at all?
If not, where?
Seems like Kabam is shutting down every thread that is trying to discuss serious issues.
If you put up a ticket chances are you will get a form message copied and pasted. Where can we have a real dialogue with Kabam employees about the impact my alliance is suffering?
-Illogix
If not, where?
Seems like Kabam is shutting down every thread that is trying to discuss serious issues.
If you put up a ticket chances are you will get a form message copied and pasted. Where can we have a real dialogue with Kabam employees about the impact my alliance is suffering?
-Illogix
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TL:DR - They're not going to name names.
I believe that if an alliance is punished for the actions of one or more of their members, the alliance should have a way to know who it was that generated the punishment. However, I don't know how to accomplish this without violating their rules against outing individual member punishment actions. There has to be a compromise there, because punishing an alliance without telling them who is performing the illegal activity is giving them no recourse to address the problem. To me, that is fundamentally wrong and the rules need to be changed to accommodate that.
To me, the logical solution is this: no alliance should be punished for a gameplay offense unless the player who did it is also punished. To punish the group and not the individual seems improper: the alliance can only be at fault if the player is at fault. And if the player draws a temporary or permanent ban for their actions, then while technically Kabam can't tell anyone including the alliance leaders who they punished the alliance itself would be able to deduce this very quickly by noting who can't currently play.
But to punish an alliance and not give any indicator of the source of the problem is something no MMO should allow, because it would fall under the category of griefing. In fact, it feels to me like Kabam is showing their hand here, once again lacking the general knowledge of the MMO industry at large. Preventing griefing is usually the second most important operational priority for an MMO these days, right behind eliminating globally skewing exploits.
The pattern of Kabam reinventing the last twenty years of MMO history from scratch makes me confident that alliance bases are being replaced by turnstiles. That would bring Kabam forward to the year 2006.
Well, I admire your conviction, but that isn't a solution either. I'm I'm favor of removing Rating in certain cases because when one or more people cheat in certain game modes, the Rewards are gained illegally. If you just ban the people involved and don't remove the ill-gotten spoils, other people are falsely benefitting from someone else breaking the rules, and you create scape goats that "take one for the team".
All cheats are not equal, using software to wrap LOL is not the same as having someone run a lane for you in AW/AQ. A permanent ban is not just for the later. They have allowed this to happen for a while it would just be nice if they would lay down the law and enforce it equally going forward.
I don’t agree with you but at the same time I would really like to see meaningful changes. Obviously loss of revenue is why this isn’t being dealt with more seriously. Grinders that are online 24-7 don’t share as much as big spenders and we all know who is valued more by the company they won’t mass ban away all that money. Is sad that they are basically being bought but it’s the truth.
There have been ban waves that targeted high tier and/or high profile players in the past, including the recent past. I don't think this is a credible accusation to make given that.