Karnak damage output

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  • charaderdude2charaderdude2 Member Posts: 1,530 ★★★
    Lovingkid wrote: »
    Lovingkid wrote: »
    Let me compare karnak to the god of spcle 1 attack the same class champ Hawkeye he has the best damage output up his sleeves as spcl 1. And hes attack deals big chunk of damage combined with more then a power bar burned as well as massuve bleed according to his stats. So dont give us stupid reason like true strike is what the spcl 1 should be used.
    If thats the case you should love spidergwen spcl1 gives evade and crit.

    That's his damage output for you,You can always not use his sp1 or not use him entirely,

    No one's stopping you.

    You are definitely right on this
    Right on this only if people have bunch of 5* or 6*
    But what about the people who dont even have a worthy5* r4 champ then they open a 6* only to be screwed once all over again with the new tiers
    I had a 6* jane foster as my top champ before a took anybody r4 and ger damage is ****.
    Her counterpart as a 4* hits harder as dupped and problem is how in the hell would i dupe her in the next 2 years
    So once again dont give stupid ans if you dont understand the problem

    Then again,The whole 6* pool is pretty much ****
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,633 ★★★★★
    If someone is sitting on a 6* and hasn't Ranked a 5* past R3, it's either a serious design flaw, or the result of being selective. The majority of Players don't have any. Some have never seen a Shard.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,633 ★★★★★
    To be clear, my emphasis was on being selective, not the design flaw. Lol.
  • Gertis_mangkas1Gertis_mangkas1 Member Posts: 43
    Lovingkid wrote: »
    Lovingkid wrote: »
    Let me compare karnak to the god of spcle 1 attack the same class champ Hawkeye he has the best damage output up his sleeves as spcl 1. And hes attack deals big chunk of damage combined with more then a power bar burned as well as massuve bleed according to his stats. So dont give us stupid reason like true strike is what the spcl 1 should be used.
    If thats the case you should love spidergwen spcl1 gives evade and crit.

    That's his damage output for you,You can always not use his sp1 or not use him entirely,

    No one's stopping you.

    You are definitely right on this
    Right on this only if people have bunch of 5* or 6*
    But what about the people who dont even have a worthy5* r4 champ then they open a 6* only to be screwed once all over again with the new tiers
    I had a 6* jane foster as my top champ before a took anybody r4 and ger damage is ****.
    Her counterpart as a 4* hits harder as dupped and problem is how in the hell would i dupe her in the next 2 years
    So once again dont give stupid ans if you dont understand the problem

    Then again,The whole 6* pool is pretty much ****

    Not all of it.the nebula i got as first 6* kicks some serious a**.i finiahed ultron 5.4 without spending anything and her special 2 can do like 100k damage
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  • The1_NuclearOnionThe1_NuclearOnion Member Posts: 908 ★★★
    KhanMedina wrote: »
    KhanMedina wrote: »
    mcomp wrote: »
    What they have done since they introduced Karnak is bring Medusa and the love/hate synergies to better bland champs vs fixing them directly. They also bettered True Strike to also bypass auto block so a Medussa counter in AW. His syn with Medusa makes his True Strike last 35% longer. His L3 great against Safeguard Nodes. Overall, there seems to be more content & champs that make this champ a bit more relevant

    There's still plenty of other champs with similar abilities that do at least some dmg with their s1. His is really, really bad.

    Then tell me how GG'S Sp1 laser blasts are supposed to damage as much as his glider on his sp2,
    Sp1s are generally light hitting attacks,Keep that in mind.

    If you don't see the difference in dmg between Karnak's SP1 and every other special attack in the game other than SG's s1, then I don't know what to tell you. He does almost no dmg. There's no one else with that weak of an attack.

    I think it is because his sp1 is not an "attack" per se. The light hit it gives is so that he doesn't get hit while gaining true strike. It's like he shoves you so he can focus for a second.
    His SP1 is not hard hitting because it's purpose is to make everything afterwards hard hitting. Think of it like a "utility special". I mean, how many champs gain more attack damage after a special? Only a few. Usually it is the special itself that deals damage. Not in this case. I think it makes sense.
  • IronFist34IronFist34 Member Posts: 386 ★★
    KhanMedina wrote: »
    KhanMedina wrote: »
    mcomp wrote: »
    What they have done since they introduced Karnak is bring Medusa and the love/hate synergies to better bland champs vs fixing them directly. They also bettered True Strike to also bypass auto block so a Medussa counter in AW. His syn with Medusa makes his True Strike last 35% longer. His L3 great against Safeguard Nodes. Overall, there seems to be more content & champs that make this champ a bit more relevant

    There's still plenty of other champs with similar abilities that do at least some dmg with their s1. His is really, really bad.

    Then tell me how GG'S Sp1 laser blasts are supposed to damage as much as his glider on his sp2,
    Sp1s are generally light hitting attacks,Keep that in mind.

    If you don't see the difference in dmg between Karnak's SP1 and every other special attack in the game other than SG's s1, then I don't know what to tell you. He does almost no dmg. There's no one else with that weak of an attack.

    I think it is because his sp1 is not an "attack" per se. The light hit it gives is so that he doesn't get hit while gaining true strike. It's like he shoves you so he can focus for a second.
    His SP1 is not hard hitting because it's purpose is to make everything afterwards hard hitting. Think of it like a "utility special". I mean, how many champs gain more attack damage after a special? Only a few. Usually it is the special itself that deals damage. Not in this case. I think it makes sense.

    BOOM.

    Just like SG's SP1, (NO damage, but has utility). I think the real problem is the OP is whining and crying that his 6* champ isn't that good. What a problem to have, I don't even have a shard.
  • charaderdude2charaderdude2 Member Posts: 1,530 ★★★
    Lovingkid wrote: »
    Lovingkid wrote: »
    Let me compare karnak to the god of spcle 1 attack the same class champ Hawkeye he has the best damage output up his sleeves as spcl 1. And hes attack deals big chunk of damage combined with more then a power bar burned as well as massuve bleed according to his stats. So dont give us stupid reason like true strike is what the spcl 1 should be used.
    If thats the case you should love spidergwen spcl1 gives evade and crit.

    That's his damage output for you,You can always not use his sp1 or not use him entirely,

    No one's stopping you.

    You are definitely right on this
    Right on this only if people have bunch of 5* or 6*
    But what about the people who dont even have a worthy5* r4 champ then they open a 6* only to be screwed once all over again with the new tiers
    I had a 6* jane foster as my top champ before a took anybody r4 and ger damage is ****.
    Her counterpart as a 4* hits harder as dupped and problem is how in the hell would i dupe her in the next 2 years
    So once again dont give stupid ans if you dont understand the problem

    Then again,The whole 6* pool is pretty much ****

    Not all of it.the nebula i got as first 6* kicks some serious a**.i finiahed ultron 5.4 without spending anything and her special 2 can do like 100k damage

    "Pretty much" means not "all",per se,There are *some* kicka** champs in there
  • Mr_OtterMr_Otter Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★
    Only use his Sp1 against evaders

    His Sp2 is the real attacking special

    Also with a critical rate above Angela the dude isn’t even fazed by any armor or physical resist and has arguably THE most consistent damage in the game
  • charaderdude2charaderdude2 Member Posts: 1,530 ★★★
    Mr_Otter wrote: »
    Only use his Sp1 against evaders

    His Sp2 is the real attacking special

    Also with a critical rate above Angela the dude isn’t even fazed by any armor or physical resist and has arguably THE most consistent damage in the game

    I wish I had him :cry:
  • Gertis_mangkas1Gertis_mangkas1 Member Posts: 43
    IronFist34 wrote: »
    KhanMedina wrote: »
    KhanMedina wrote: »
    mcomp wrote: »
    What they have done since they introduced Karnak is bring Medusa and the love/hate synergies to better bland champs vs fixing them directly. They also bettered True Strike to also bypass auto block so a Medussa counter in AW. His syn with Medusa makes his True Strike last 35% longer. His L3 great against Safeguard Nodes. Overall, there seems to be more content & champs that make this champ a bit more relevant

    There's still plenty of other champs with similar abilities that do at least some dmg with their s1. His is really, really bad.

    Then tell me how GG'S Sp1 laser blasts are supposed to damage as much as his glider on his sp2,
    Sp1s are generally light hitting attacks,Keep that in mind.

    If you don't see the difference in dmg between Karnak's SP1 and every other special attack in the game other than SG's s1, then I don't know what to tell you. He does almost no dmg. There's no one else with that weak of an attack.

    I think it is because his sp1 is not an "attack" per se. The light hit it gives is so that he doesn't get hit while gaining true strike. It's like he shoves you so he can focus for a second.
    His SP1 is not hard hitting because it's purpose is to make everything afterwards hard hitting. Think of it like a "utility special". I mean, how many champs gain more attack damage after a special? Only a few. Usually it is the special itself that deals damage. Not in this case. I think it makes sense.

    BOOM.

    Just like SG's SP1, (NO damage, but has utility). I think the real problem is the OP is whining and crying that his 6* champ isn't that good. What a problem to have, I don't even have a shard.

    Then i wish u a 6* spider gwen for your first 6 star see how much u be liking her utility then
  • Gertis_mangkas1Gertis_mangkas1 Member Posts: 43
    Anyway the purpose of this post was so that someone from kabam see it and do something about it.not people who,dont even have karnak telling me how good he is.its not about ranting i made some suggestions like break down his attack into more hits,increase timer duration,make true strike activate by reachin a power bar or straight up increase the damage which i think are really good and should be considered.i know kabam respect the playerbase and the time and effort put to get all those shards together so i have faith in them
  • KpatrixKpatrix Member Posts: 1,056 ★★★
    Karnak is great, I would take him as a 6*, I quest with my 5/50 5* and love his crits and true strike and focus, and his L2 is strong. He's not Medusa or some other raw damage champ, but in a good team built for synergy he's integral for certain things when your other aar champs are in war.
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