Spending money on Mcoc

I thought that the idea of spending money on this game was to get new/better champs at least some of the time. I have been spending consistently for the last few months and have not been granted the slightest luck with anything new, yet I speak with people that spend no money and they have better champs. I’m on the verge of calling it quits. Ive been playing for two years, this is getting ridiculous. Not to mention that I haven’t pulled a 4star from a phc in months! Probably over 6 months. What is going on?

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KillSwitch

I stopped spending money on this game for a multitude of reasons 1) it doesn’t usually help that much 2) rewards are still stuck in the days of 4* champs being the big boys on the block 3) Kabam just doesn’t care about our feedback. As a salesman, I cannot expect to completely ignore my customers and then all of a sudden wonder while they took their money elsewhere. Their outreach is on-par with some of the worst that I have ever seen. For me to say that they haven’t diminished my overall appreciation for Marvel would be an outright lie at this point. It’s truly a sad situation how far this has gotten. This game always had such promise.

SDP

First of all, what are your objectives in this game? Do you get satisfaction from challenging content, and trying to strategize with your roster to defeat it, or do you simply want to just own certain champions? Are you stuck on content that you simply cannot defeat with your current roster?

There are 100+ champs in this game, and whether or not you acquire them is largely based on RNG. The fact is that you will most often be disappointed if you are only satisfied by acquiring certain champs through crystals.

You’re spending a lot of money towards something with no monetary gain for you, and you are not getting the results you want. I would suggest not spending anymore, and try to have fun. Grind for shards and hope for the best.

My first six five star champs were:

Jane Foster
King Groot
Carnage
Sym Spidey
Beast
Civil Warrior

Extremely frustrating. Then, I’m looking for 10k more mystic T4CC shards. I have 47 T4 frag crystals. I literally only got 720 mystic. Like 8-9000 of every other class.

Out of the 7-8 T4 crystals I’ve opened? 6 science and 2 skill. My best science champs are Antman and Miles.

Seriously.

Had one five star crystal yesterday after a couple weeks of saving.

Pulled Blade.

It’s mostly luck, man. And the odds are stacked heavily against you. I’ve spent probably $200 in 3 years. I just grind, have fun, and work with what I have.

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DNA3000

GB1488 wrote: »

I thought that the idea of spending money on this game was to get new/better champs at least some of the time.

What gave you that idea?

That's not a quip. A lot of people seem to think that spending money on crystals is supposed to be some ticket to getting whatever you want, even though literally all evidence and all in-game descriptions pretty much make it clear that spending on crystals is a gamble, not a purchase. The idea of spending money at the craps table is to win at craps, but most people lose.

People spend money on the game for all sorts of different reasons and on all sorts of different things. You can spend money ultimately on energy, on rank up resources, and on champion crystals. The idea behind spending money is to only spend money on things you want. If you spend money on units to buy energy refills, or you buy a signature stone card, or you buy an awakening crystal offer, you should only do so if you are getting what you want. If you spend money on crystals, you are spending money on a gamble. Only do so if you enjoy gambles, win or lose.

If you don't enjoy gambles, you shouldn't spend money on crystals. You shouldn't spend units on them either, even if you earned them in-game. And if you don't want to spend money gambling on champions and you cannot accept the level of progress you can achieve through your actual gameplay, then this game might not be for you. There are people who play completely free to play and do not dedicate tons of time to the game and make decent progress, but whether any level of progress is "enough" is a personal preference.

DNA3000

KillSwitch wrote: »

As a salesman, I cannot expect to completely ignore my customers and then all of a sudden wonder while they took their money elsewhere.

As a business owner, I ultimately decide what products and services I offer, not my customers. If they want something I don't want to offer, or they aren't willing to pay what I charge for it, I do in fact refer them to spend their money elsewhere.

There has to be a balance between being responsive to customers and being controlled by them. And the ultimate judge of whether that balance is reasonably met is ultimately if you have enough customers that are satisfied you are offering a product they want to spend money on. Judged on that level, Kabam is apparently doing fairly well. They need customers, but they don't need you or me specifically.

There are a lot of things I would do differently were I in charge, but you can't imply that the company's practices are bad business when they operate one of the highest revenue generating mobile games out there. There's no reason to take that charge seriously while cash continues to fall from the sky. Kabam does a lot of things badly, but making money is not one of those things.

JRock808

Money doesn’t guarantee you anything better, it just gives you more tries at the rare chance of getting something good. Whales can drop hundreds of dollars or more on featured crystals to get that new 5*. I may pick up 1 or 2 a month. I never get the prize, but I don’t expect to. It’s like walking by a slot machine and playing once. I may hit the jackpot, but I probably won’t.. and thats okay,

Markhor

crogs

That's the one problem with the game in general. There is rarely an instance when spending (be it units or actual money) guarantees an exact thing you want. And often there is a range of prizes where you can get the lowest value thing possible which just pisses you off. I retired from competitive play and have spent a little a couple of times, but only when I knew exactly what I was getting. Otherwise, spending on any sort of varied reward crystal and such I deem a waste and don't bother. Seeing the drop rates now just confirms it all. There's nothing in this game I truly need, so I just bide my time, and when I have enough dust, glory and so on, I get what I need. If I get lucky with a good pull, great. I duped my 5* Magik and haven't pulled anything decent since. I could get annoyed, but whatever. It's not spurring me on to buy crystals or do more to get something good again. The game is more fun when you've gone through the step program and arrive at acceptance.

SDP

This game is designed to appeal to your obsessive nature. It seeks to spark the gambler in you. I find it is more rewarding to change your way of thinking about it. Just handing the best champions to everyone defeats the purpose of the game itself. If you accept the certainty that the game will not simply give you what you seek, then you will find it much more rewarding, and save a lot of money in the process. Trying to navigate my limited roster to clear content is what makes this game awesome to me. Scanning the map before I go in to find the best team/synergies out of my roster in order to move on is the best part. Sure, pulling six very mediocre five stars before Blade sucks, but that forces me to make decisions to accelerate my progress in the face of bad luck. For instance, I am almost certainly taking my 4* Scarlet Witch to max and using all my stones on her. I held off for quite some time to wait for my big opening I’d been saving for. Sup IM, Magneto, Moon Knight, duped my Ultron, Hood... No science champs for those cats. Pretty mediocre. Of course, I then got lucky as hell with Blade. It happens, man. In the meantime I’ve cleared ROL, am 8 chapters from the collector, clear all EQs every month and grind basic 4* arena for milestones every week. With 4/40 Thor, X-23, Ultron, Hawkeye, Guillotine, Yondu, and AA (unduped).

Just trying to provide inspiration. Haha

DNA3000

JRock808 wrote: »

Money doesn’t guarantee you anything better, it just gives you more tries at the rare chance of getting something good. Whales can drop hundreds of dollars or more on featured crystals to get that new 5*. I may pick up 1 or 2 a month. I never get the prize, but I don’t expect to. It’s like walking by a slot machine and playing once. I may hit the jackpot, but I probably won’t.. and thats okay,

I suspect if you were not okay with it, you would just stop going to casinos and putting money in slot machines. And that's okay also: that doesn't mean the casinos are wrong or you're wrong. It just means casino slot machines are not your thing.

SDP

Bad beat stories. T4CC frag crystals. 46 of them. All I wanted was mystic. Need 9,000 or so to max SW. This was today.

JRock808

I find gambling incredibly fun, I just don’t have the risk acceptance to let myself try more than a trivial amount. Casinos build empires on those who can’t refrain and gamble well beyond their means. I can see how it could happen, so even when I’m in Vegas I limit myself to a few bucks and that’s it.

DNA3000

crogs wrote: »

That's the one problem with the game in general. There is rarely an instance when spending (be it units or actual money) guarantees an exact thing you want.

It is not a problem I necessarily want fixed. We normally think about spending in terms of our own spending. When *I* spend money, what do *I* want for it. But the real question is, when other players spend money, how much farther out ahead of you should they get? I may want my own spending to generate great value, but it would be bad for the game in general if spending generated such good value that spending was a far better way of getting ahead in the game than game play. Right now, spending helps, but only so much, and if you want to get far ahead of the pack you have to spend a tremendous amount of money. And frankly, if you're trying to spend your way to the top I want that to cost a much money as possible. The cost of trying to buy your way to the top is funding the game development for everyone else spending little or nothing.

Great value for your money sounds like a good idea until you realize that the players that spend ten times as much as you will end up a hundred times farther ahead, and the game will have to be balanced around the average spending, and that would be bad for at least half the players. The problem of not getting precisely what you want in the quantities you want when you spend is a problem I want spenders to have, and that's true even though I also occasionally spend on the game.

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GroundedWisdom

As has bean stated, spending doesn't increase drop rates. You just end up with more chances at the same rates.

charaderdude2

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

As has bean stated, spending doesn't increase drop rates. You just end up with more chances at the same rates.

Beans?

GroundedWisdom

charaderdude2 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

As has bean stated, spending doesn't increase drop rates. You just end up with more chances at the same rates.

Beans?

Autocorrect. Lol! Good catch.

Jaffacaked

GB1488 wrote: »

I thought that the idea of spending money on this game was to get new/better champs at least some of the time. I have been spending consistently for the last few months and have not been granted the slightest luck with anything new, yet I speak with people that spend no money and they have better champs. I’m on the verge of calling it quits. Ive been playing for two years, this is getting ridiculous. Not to mention that I haven’t pulled a 4star from a phc in months! Probably over 6 months. What is going on?

RNG

GB1488

This isn’t a casino at all. I understand that it’s a gamble but at least you hear stories about people winning at the casino. I’ve never heard someone walk into a casino, spend nothing, and come out wealthy. The content is ok. I’ve already taken down Thanos with the roster that I have. I don’t care about the content or it’s challenges. I care about me putting $500 into the game in less that two weeks and only getting the same champs or duping bs champs. Since a casino is what this game is being compared to, where is the high rollers arear where you can’t get anything less than a 4star? And I did get that vision, the 4star not the five star though

Corpsman

This game loves to take your money and give nothing decent in return. .8 % chance at a new 5* champ is what you are throwing your money at.

Appie

funny thing is you expect to get somthing from ur money while you don't have to spend i would be upset if this game gave the spenders a quick advantage like most mobile games do keep it up kabam.

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Blitzkilla420

i would spend more money if the deals were better. i would say as an constructive opinion is that the disconnect from what people want to buy versus what people are getting offered is alarming and needs to get better. maybe a survey should be done cause 7500 units for a 5* is such a rip off

Kabam Spruce

GB1488 wrote: »

I thought that the idea of spending money on this game was to get new/better champs at least some of the time. I have been spending consistently for the last few months and have not been granted the slightest luck with anything new, yet I speak with people that spend no money and they have better champs. I’m on the verge of calling it quits. Ive been playing for two years, this is getting ridiculous. Not to mention that I haven’t pulled a 4star from a phc in months! Probably over 6 months. What is going on?

Hey! We're sorry to see you haven't been lucky in your pulls. Summoners can choose whether or not to invest, and the amount spent does not affect champion rarity. The champions you have already also don't factor into what you pull. Have you worked towards getting a 4-Star Hero Crystal? You can find more info about the way to get them here, which includes Ranked Rewards from the Arenas:

http://kabam.force.com/PKB/articles/en_US/FAQ/4-Star-Champions-MCOC

New_Noob168

$10 for a chance at a 300 unit crystal for 5* is pretty expensive if you ask me. Hence the reason why there has been less spending on the game recently. Hope Kabam realizes that :-)