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Stealing

The idea that I've spent well over 1000 dollars on this game in the past and haven't really gotten alot of the heroes I wanted is disturbing. What's even sadder is the fact that today I bought 13 punisher 2099 crystals and came away with nothing but 2stars is awful. Technically if you take 50 bucks from someone they should get something of value in return. Otherwise this is stealing of people's money.
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    Sir_PootingtonSir_Pootington Posts: 45
    Dude, check my latest discussion...riot in the streets, my friend.
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    agr5017agr5017 Posts: 10
    28 nanotech crystals opened, 3 3-star champions (thor, loki and aou vision) and the rest were all 2-stars. unbelievable...
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    Rednick69Rednick69 Posts: 325
    Two stars can carry you through AW.
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    DYNAMODYNAMO Posts: 4
    What's even sadder is the fact that today I bought 3 punisher 2099 crystals and came away with nothing but 2stars is awful. Otherwise this is stealing of people's money
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    DYNAMODYNAMO Posts: 4
    What's even sadder is the fact that today I bought 3 punisher 2099 crystals and came away with nothing but 2stars is awful. Otherwise this is stealing of people's money
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    DYNAMODYNAMO Posts: 4
    DYNAMO wrote: »
    What's even sadder is the fact that today I bought 3 punisher 2099 crystals and came away with nothing but 2stars is awful. Otherwise this is stealing of people's money
    Enigma_23 wrote: »
    The idea that I've spent well over 1000 dollars on this game in the past and haven't really gotten alot of the heroes I wanted is disturbing. What's even sadder is the fact that today I bought 13 punisher 2099 crystals and came away with nothing but 2stars is awful. Technically if you take 50 bucks from someone they should get something of value in return. Otherwise this is stealing of people's money.

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    DYNAMODYNAMO Posts: 4
    I want to win 3 hero 4 star now
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    SirnoobSirnoob Posts: 952 ★★★
    DYNAMO wrote: »
    I want to win 3 hero 4 star now

    Ur going to be disappointed
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,250 ★★★★★
    That's not stealing. You took a chance. When you willingly pay for a chance at something, that's not stealing. Crystals are not guarantees. There's always a chance involved.
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    NoobeeusNoobeeus Posts: 332 ★★
    Ever been to a Casino?
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    SirnoobSirnoob Posts: 952 ★★★
    Never go to a casino r play the lotto
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    SirnoobSirnoob Posts: 952 ★★★
    R shiny hunt in pokemon
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    HamedSOHamedSO Posts: 139
    edited June 2017
    Enigma_23 wrote: »
    The idea that I've spent well over 1000 dollars on this game in the past and haven't really gotten alot of the heroes I wanted is disturbing. What's even sadder is the fact that today I bought 13 punisher 2099 crystals and came away with nothing but 2stars is awful. Technically if you take 50 bucks from someone they should get something of value in return. Otherwise this is stealing of people's money.

    I think this is your problem not the game problem. You spend bucks trying to get punisher 2099 and you already know its a rare drop. So do it always at your own risk!

    I spend in the game to reach the edge not to get champions. Just play the arena and collect rewards then every week you can open 4* crystal to collect a champion. Sooner or later you will get champs you want. Its about time. If you don't like waiting and prefer to spend, so this is not the game issue too! And they haven't forced you to spend, so u shouldn't call this stealing! You are giving them your money, they aren't garbing it from your pocket!

    the real thing that I would blame Kabam for is leaving bugs! Or slowly fixing them. We some times spend to overcome those bugs. That's really the awful thing.
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    RotmgmoddyRotmgmoddy Posts: 916 ★★★
    It's...erm..not really called "stealing", it's more of "gamble" actually.

    If you are in a casino, spend thousands of dollars and lose all of it, the casino never stole your money to begin with. You gambled with your money, knowing that there's a fair chance you may lose it, and risked it to earn a profit, but you failed, so you have no one to blame but yourself.

    Same thing here, it's stated crystal clear (pun intended) in the description of the crystals that there is a guaranteed chance to get at least a 2* champion, with a rare chance of acquiring a 3* and 4* champ. You already knew it was a rare chance, emphasis on rare, so you should have been fully aware that you may get all 2* champs and little to no 3* or 4* champs.

    So, while I am humbly sorry that you lost your money through these crystals, hopefully, it served to teach you a painful lesson of not spending excessively on these crystals, because imo, the risk is not worth the reward.
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    winterthurwinterthur Posts: 7,795 ★★★★★
    Enigma_23 wrote: »
    The idea that I've spent well over 1000 dollars on this game in the past and haven't really gotten alot of the heroes I wanted is disturbing.

    Wow. I hope you are actually working to earn those and these are not pocket money given by your parents.

    Not my place to say whether to spend or not.
    Just be more careful on how money is spent. Lots of hungry people all over the world.

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    JarekJarek Posts: 64
    edited June 2017
    I believe odds should be clearly stated.
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    MidnightfoxMidnightfox Posts: 1,094 ★★★
    See my thread. This message is the reason I was stupid enough to buy 5 crystals. In your own words then walk away with 5 two stars. The drop rate was supposed to decrease on two stars. zx2jepkysfud.png
    I guess I'm blind even though it's in black and white straight from your game team. So yeah looks like u got a bunch of ticked off customers.
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    SpeedbumpSpeedbump Posts: 1,520 ★★★
    LOL "slightly reduced chance" (its working as intended) Got you to spend your crystals huh? lol
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    Arus25Arus25 Posts: 158
    See my thread. This message is the reason I was stupid enough to buy 5 crystals. In your own words then walk away with 5 two stars. The drop rate was supposed to decrease on two stars. zx2jepkysfud.png
    I guess I'm blind even though it's in black and white straight from your game team. So yeah looks like u got a bunch of ticked off customers.

    What the initial % of a 4* in featured. 5%?
    So 5% + 5% become 10%
    3* is 10%
    So the original 2* is 85%
    Slightly reduced to 80%

    This chance is still consider rare to me
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    RotmgmoddyRotmgmoddy Posts: 916 ★★★
    "Slightly reduced" doesn't mean "greatly reduced to the point where 2* champs are rare", much less "you will never get a 2* ever".

    Like what Seatin mentioned in that CEO comedy video, despite it being comedy, is quite true. "Even if it's one in a million, we can still call it a chance". Same thing here, if they reduced that chance by 1 in a million, they can still technically call it a slight reduction.
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    Enigma_23Enigma_23 Posts: 17
    What's funny is you have two guys claiming the game is a casino, a guy who judges whether it's my money ,a guy who thinks he knows it all and someone talks about bugs. I'm 35 and have stood job unlike the troll who's worried about my parents why even comment.
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    SpeedbumpSpeedbump Posts: 1,520 ★★★
    What's a "stood job"?
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    Enigma_23Enigma_23 Posts: 17
    A good job.
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    Enigma_23Enigma_23 Posts: 17
    Apparently some people are butt hurt and have no life to worry about what I write.
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    RotmgmoddyRotmgmoddy Posts: 916 ★★★
    Enigma_23 wrote: »
    What's funny is you have two guys claiming the game is a casino, a guy who judges whether it's my money ,a guy who thinks he knows it all and someone talks about bugs. I'm 35 and have stood job unlike the troll who's worried about my parents why even comment.

    I didn't say the game is a casino, read properly. I'm just comparing it's concept to a casino because they have one thing in common: Gambling is involved.

    No need to act all aggressive here, I know you are- nah, I'd be called the know-it-all guy again. I'll just empathise here: You are frustrated, I understand that, I have done the same mistake as you once. I'm just trying to dissuade you away from doing this again, that's all.
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    Enigma_23Enigma_23 Posts: 17
    No you're ok to disagree it's a forum but when people make comments on things thatre irrelevant it's pointless.
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    Enigma_23Enigma_23 Posts: 17
    Gotta laugh at the millennial too. Feed the world. Way to tell me how I spend my own hard money champ.
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    RotmgmoddyRotmgmoddy Posts: 916 ★★★
    Enigma_23 wrote: »
    No you're ok to disagree it's a forum but when people make comments on things thatre irrelevant it's pointless.

    Yea fair enough, like the one who commented about your parents' money is irrelevant. Understandable.
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    MidnightfoxMidnightfox Posts: 1,094 ★★★
    Like I said I understand the frustration, but I think 4* arena was fixed the best they could. However, 1.5 million minimum for a 3* featured is ridiculous. 3 star arena does need reworked considering they are the new 2 stars.
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