We Need An Update to Old Champs

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  • Oswaldo72383Oswaldo72383 Member Posts: 249
    Nice speech. Did you write that youself? I’ll work on posting like I’m writing a paper.
  • Oswaldo72383Oswaldo72383 Member Posts: 249
    I will add that no the classics should not be the best. ALL should have a use.
  • Oswaldo72383Oswaldo72383 Member Posts: 249
    And @Dexman1349 contribute if you want be who are you to tell others when they can speak?
  • BadroseBadrose Member Posts: 779 ★★★
    Ad0ra_ wrote: »
    Hey peeps. Appreciate the feedback and it's true that some of our older Champs need some attention! But it's not true to state that we have entirely ignored the older Champions. A few that we have directly worked on:

    Winter Soldier
    Magik
    Spider-Gwen
    Luke Cage
    Red Hulk

    That is why you (kabam) and us have problems. You think you did something for us and we think you did nothing. You worked on 5 characters (let's say 4 because Gwen is still one of the worst), which is what, 2% of the entire roster? That's nothing, absolutely NOTHING.

    I'd like to play with my favourite Marvel heros, not with some almost unknown overpowered characters because they are now the only good we can use to clear ultra buffed quests.
  • Oswaldo72383Oswaldo72383 Member Posts: 249
    Not sure why this is offending anyone but if it is dex can screenshot again. I thought this was a board to communicate. Had no idea this was capped at characters per post. Also had no idea that posting could rub anyone the wrong way. Please tell me if this post is long enough for your pleasure. Screen shot me again if I am not allowed to post. I’m still a little confused but I’m not sure if capturing my coments is legal to do without my consent.
  • SnizzbarSnizzbar Member Posts: 2,186 ★★★★★
    Much better thanks. But please keep to the thread topic next time.
  • Oswaldo72383Oswaldo72383 Member Posts: 249
    sorry not my intention
  • Oswaldo72383Oswaldo72383 Member Posts: 249
    I will say age has a little bit to do with it. Everyone wants to play with their favorite growing up. I think everyone should have that chance if all toon are usable.
  • ShadeZeroShadeZero Member Posts: 145
    I'm guessing next two is carnage and venom
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,560 ★★★★★
    Actually, that makes sense. I change my prediction to Carnage and KK. Lol.
  • Spurgeon14Spurgeon14 Member Posts: 1,665 ★★★★
    Honestly kabam should get on a schedule of refreshing older champs to keep up with the ever changing meta with in the game.

    Fantastic idea! 😁

  • Spurgeon14Spurgeon14 Member Posts: 1,665 ★★★★
    Ad0ra_ wrote: »
    Hey peeps. Appreciate the feedback and it's true that some of our older Champs need some attention! But it's not true to state that we have entirely ignored the older Champions. A few that we have directly worked on:

    Winter Soldier
    Magik
    Spider-Gwen
    Luke Cage
    Red Hulk

    In other instances, adjustments or improvements we make to the game positively impact older Champions as well. An example of this would be Karnak - he became better when we made True Strike counter Auto Block.

    Does this mean that all of these above Champions are exactly where we want them to be? No. Are there other older Champions we want to revisit? Yes, absolutely. It's true that developing new features and new content in order to keep The Contest fresh and exciting is a big priority for us, but we do want to and like to make improvements to existing content as well. In the instance of Luke Cage and Red Hulk, we ran a beta test. We recently ran a Mystic Dispersion beta test, but we do have a good idea of what we want our next 'existing Champion refresh' beta to be. While I can't share the specifics of that just yet because we don't have the timeline nailed down, I am looking forward to the day where we can share more on that front :)

    Great, so we only have to wait another 3 years to get a few more of the worst champs in the game buffed! Whoo....hoo.....
  • Jh_DezJh_Dez Member Posts: 1,307 ★★★
    Ad0ra_ wrote: »
    Hey peeps. Appreciate the feedback and it's true that some of our older Champs need some attention! But it's not true to state that we have entirely ignored the older Champions. A few that we have directly worked on:

    Winter Soldier
    Magik
    Spider-Gwen
    Luke Cage
    Red Hulk

    In other instances, adjustments or improvements we make to the game positively impact older Champions as well. An example of this would be Karnak - he became better when we made True Strike counter Auto Block.

    Does this mean that all of these above Champions are exactly where we want them to be? No. Are there other older Champions we want to revisit? Yes, absolutely. It's true that developing new features and new content in order to keep The Contest fresh and exciting is a big priority for us, but we do want to and like to make improvements to existing content as well. In the instance of Luke Cage and Red Hulk, we ran a beta test. We recently ran a Mystic Dispersion beta test, but we do have a good idea of what we want our next 'existing Champion refresh' beta to be. While I can't share the specifics of that just yet because we don't have the timeline nailed down, I am looking forward to the day where we can share more on that front :)

    When was spider gwen buffed? Whats her new buff?
  • TheBlackDefenseTheBlackDefense Member Posts: 103
    How about kabam come to the community and ask which champ should get reworked instead of making decisions for the community

    A simple poll let the community decide
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    How about kabam come to the community and ask which champ should get reworked instead of making decisions for the community

    A simple poll let the community decide

    I don't think it's a bad idea to have community input on who to buff, but that shouldn't be the end-all deciding factor. Kabam knows who the community uses in the game and who is out of balance in comparison to the new champs.

    Seeing a revamped Venom and Carnage would make sense with the upcoming Venom movie. I just hope they don't add more Movie-based variants instead of updating the champs already in the game.
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  • SnizzbarSnizzbar Member Posts: 2,186 ★★★★★
    edited July 2018
    They had a community vote last year for the 12 best champs, and then they had an event with the six lowest ranked champs from the voting. They need to carry on the buffs with these champs from the Underdogs event:
    FALCON
    SHE-HULK
    IRON PATRIOT
    MAGNETO
    THOR (JANE FOSTER)
    KAMALA KHAN
  • Esketit420Esketit420 Member Posts: 58
    I say buff DD (both classic and netflix version)
  • ChuckNorrisChuckNorris Member Posts: 104
    Deadpool x-force
  • jeremiahramos1216jeremiahramos1216 Member Posts: 51
    100 % agreed but it will never happen cause kabam wouldn't make money and making money is more important than and bunch of feed backs . Money runs the game and it always will . .
  • BLEEDlNG_DGEBLEEDlNG_DGE Member Posts: 324 ★★
    edited July 2018
    In my opinion all champs should be just as good

    Personally, I don't think that should be the case. Every game content has varying scales of performance, power index, availability etc.
    The problem in MCoC is the gap between those scales.
    Take IMIW for example. You compare him to the original IM and he completely dwarfs him. That shouldn't be the case. No champ should be benched because they've become completely useless beyond the player's control. There should still be some merit to all champs and I believe that can be fixed by improving on the fundementals. Wolverine and StarLord are proof of this. No matter who Wolverine faces, his regen gives you a fighting chance. Same applies with SL and his attack. If every old champ's fundamental ability can be improved, it would bridge the gap & still allow old champs to be usable to an extent in end game content.
    Also, KABAM should consider desigining new champs with old champs in mind. The latest crop of champs has shown a disregard and exclusion of old champ dynamics. It wouldn't hurt making a new, powerful champ be countered by an old champ (with some skill involved ofcourse). Instead, the opposite occurs.
    When the community cleverly uses an old champs ability to completely negate a newer champ... they get nerfed.
  • WerewrymWerewrym Member Posts: 2,830 ★★★★★
    In my opinion all champs should be just as good

    Personally, I don't think that should be the case. Every game content has varying scales of performance, power index, availability etc.
    The problem in MCoC is the gap between those scales.
    Take IMIW for example. You compare him to the original IM and he completely dwarfs him. That shouldn't be the case. No champ should be benched because they've become completely useless beyond the player's control. There should still be some merit to all champs and I believe that can be fixed by improving on the fundementals. Wolverine and StarLord are proof of this. No matter who Wolverine faces, his regen gives you a fighting chance. Same applies with SL and his attack. If every old champ's fundamental ability can be improved, it would bridge the gap & still allow old champs to be usable to an extent in end game content.
    Also, KABAM should consider desigining new champs with old champs in mind. The latest crop of champs has shown a disregard and exclusion of old champ dynamics. It wouldn't hurt making a new, powerful champ be countered by an old champ (with some skill involved ofcourse). Instead, the opposite occurs.
    When the community cleverly uses an old champs ability to completely negate a newer champ... they get nerfed.

    I agree. I think the biggest issue is just how large the gap is between new and old champs, and I touched on that in the post. If the newer characters didn't completely dwarf all of the old ones I don't think we'd be having this conversation right now.
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  • iRetr0iRetr0 Member Posts: 1,252 ★★★★
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    You're not chatting, you're spamming.

    Back on topic, these new champs are diluting the game. Too many obscure champs that are rendering the classics obsolete. We love the classic comic book champs like Iron Man, Wolverine, Thor, etc, but instead we are focused on Wasp, Gwenpool, Hyperion, Dr Voodoo.

    IMO, the classics should always be at the top because that's how the comic books are setup. Instead, they are bottom of the roster and forgotten.

    I second this. Compare for instance Spidey Classic to Stark Spidey. Spidey in the comics has gone through so much and survived, he has to be so much better in this game. Even Iron Man.
  • JRock808JRock808 Member Posts: 1,149 ★★★★
    Iron man:

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    Vs. iron man:

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  • VegetaspiderclopsVegetaspiderclops Member Posts: 22
    JRock808 wrote: »
    Iron man:

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    Vs. iron man:

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    This is ridiculous and needs to be stopped. I’m tired of the new champions having so many abilities. It’s to complicated to enjoy a lot of the time.
  • Savio444Savio444 Member Posts: 1,781 ★★★★
    JRock808 wrote: »
    Iron man:

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    Vs. iron man:

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    Then there’s antman
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