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Infinity War Iron Man, are his Armor stacks considered buffs?
SiriusBreak
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I'm confused here. This has been bothering me for awhile now. His Molecular Armor is Passive. Ok. Now, it being passive, does that mean it is not considered buff?? It stacks passively? Reason I ask is, Mephisto. His Soul Imprisonment prevents any champs from activating Buffs while active. Now, Juggernaut's Unstoppable is ALSO listed under passive, yet can be shut down with Soul Imprisonment. So, why I ask does Infinity War Iron Man's Molecular Armor remain unaffected by Soul Imprisonment?? He starts the fight with one stack even though Soul Imprisonment is active. Continues to gain stacks while under Soul Imprisonment. This makes 0 sense if you ask me. If he can stop passive Buffs on one champ, he should be able to do it to all champs. A buff is a buff. Unless someone can provide me with a logical explanation as to why this shouldn't work against IW Iron Man, this is a glitch that needs fixing. @Kabam Miike @Ad0ra_ Any insight on this subject would be greatly appreciated.
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Juggernaut unstoppable is a buff. It doesn't say in his abilities that it is a passive thing. The only thing it says is that it triggers passively at the beginning of the fight. The othef unstoppable buffs are triggered offensively after using a special attack.
So yeh ... Mephisto works against buffs, and that's why it prevents unstoppable buffs from juggernaut. He will not work against IW IM
Passive armors or passive abilities exist since the beginning of the game. It's nothing new really, so just move on.
Armor break itself shouldn't break an armor up passive. Yet they do against IW IM because that's how his ability work (read his abilities for more info).
Armor shattered same thing. It does stop the enemy from triggering armor up buffs. Doesn't say anything about armor passives (which exist in the game before the introduction of IW IM), so this is nothing new too.
Juggernaut gets an ustopable buff at the beginning of the fight. Again, is a buff, not a passive.
To understand correctly how some abilities work, you sometimes must fight against those champions.
Ok so if juggs first unstoppable is passive and mephisto stops that with soul imprisonment then op has a good question about imiw. Mephisto should be able to stop his passive armor if he can stop jugs passive unstoppable
Pretty sure that says passive
After that, an action is needed (special) to actively trigger it.
The buff in and of itself is not passive. Ever. Not on him.
Then it should not be labeled passive it should say something like has 100% chance to go unstoppable at start of fight but it doesn’t say that it clearly states passive
No you are missing the point...
It is TRIGGERED passively, because a special isn't needed. Since it is an active buff, soul imprisonment will cancel it flat out.
The buff itself is NOT passive.
Once you do a special, it triggers actively (unless soul imprisonment is active).
No it’s a buff just triggered passively otherwise stuff like archangels stun would be passice etc
Either you didn't play at the start or you don't remember.
There wasn't any passive buffs at beginning of the game. All buffs could be countered or nullified. Passive abilities yes, but not buffs.
As buffs can be so easily neutered with today's champs Kabam came up with passives. It's a very lazy idea and I don't like it. Something like Angela's sig ability is much better, as you can still use Ronan and Morningstar's SP2 for example.
There are no passive buffs in the game. Those don't exist anywhere.
Examples of passive armor? Well you have optimist and pessimist nodes, as well as other nodes. You also have rhino or juggernaut armor for example (which dont appear as an "effect" furing the battle due to not having any ability associated to).
(1)passive abilities that trigger passive buffs i.e Hyperion's Cosmic Charges converting to Power Gain,
(2)specific triggers that grant passive abilities i.e Sym Spidey's specials granting Passive Evade and finally,
(3)passive buffs that grant passive abilities i.e Medusa's Furies granting Autoblock
...all of which can be countered. And the only reason IMIW's armor does not apply to any of these is because they've left out the word 'buff' in his description? 😅
Not to make things more confusing, but technically Medusa's furies are active buffs (can be nullified) that trigger passively (activate without a specific trigger) to grant an autoblock mechanic.
(Yes, I got busy and forgot to read the replies until now. The post is over a week old, I know)