How would you implement a 5* basic arena
DudemanDan
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IF the 5* basic arena is introduced into the contest in the perhaps near future admist of server crashes, how would you implement it?
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Put the 5* hero as a milestone...
Not if the milestone was high, but yeah I do see what you're saying. I think it would be good for them to every once in a while add the champion to the milestones just to mix things up a bit.
Yeah except all the competitions are marred by cheating. Guys still have bots running arena and the hilarious antics of the most high profile alliances continue to be allowed to run rampant in war. They haven’t done enough imo to demonstrate that we are all playing on a level field so they should consider more milestones to midigate the consequences fair players continue to suffer in the contest.
lmao..u mean grinding
I've seen no evidence that cheating in the arena is anything other than a rare occurrence. There's zero evidence it is affecting cutoff scores in any arena other than the 5* featured, and even that arena doesn't seem to have strong evidence of wildly unusual scores. It is *possible* it is happening in the top 200, but not at levels that are detectable.
To put it another way, it is possible there's a cheater somewhere in the top scores in the 5* featured (or even in other arenas) but the number of them possible is such that if you aren't getting at least extremely close to the cutoffs now, you aren't being affected by them whether it is happening or not.
I doubt we'll see a 5* basic arena any time soon. I wouldn't expect one to show up before rank 3 6* champions start to become commonplace.
This may be true if cheating is referring to bots or mods. This is not true if cheating is referring to account sharing or arena mercenaries.
Let me rephrase. There is no evidence that cutoff scores would change significantly if every possible source of high scoring other than a single player playing a single account with no TOS violation was eliminated.
thats not why its called contest of champions lol
There is some evidence, though not enough to counter your statement. 3rd party services advertise account sharing services including arena, these services wouldn't be common knowledge if they weren't making a profit. Other sources such as MCOC-related podcasts also support the stance that there are top paying players who pay other people to run their account in arena. Furthermore, one of the game's most well-known arena grinders received a temporary ban after last AW Season. That player's alliance received no AW-related penalties last season, so the temporary ban was not for a AW-related incident.
I did not say there is no evidence that some cheating goes on. There's ample evidence that it exists on some level. What I said was that there is no evidence that it significantly impacts cutoff scores, and for that we have the historical record of how cutoff scores and player expectations intertwine. We have less data now than in the past, but there's no reason to believe the psychology of the arena has dramatically changed over time. Players aim for the score they think they need (of the players capable of hitting it) and the cutoff almost always ends up near a "consensus plateau" of scores, such that subtracting a small number of cheaters off the top would not alter the cutoff score significantly up or down.
To put the concept more concretely, suppose that a thousand players all score about 20 million, and then everyone else trails off rapidly after that. If 80% of the top players were cheaters and 800 of those scores were actually the result of cheating, eliminating those 800 scores would still keep the cutoff almost exactly at 20 million. In this example, even if almost everyone cheated, the cutoff score wouldn't be affected.
That's not actually how arena scoring works, that's just an overemphasized example of how the scores *actually* work, which is a bit more complex (it follows a multiple plateau curve) and what kinds of scores cheating is likely to generate. The bottom line is that there are enough legitimate arena grinders capable of scoring the kinds of numbers that actually show up that the cutoff is insensitive to the addition of a few more players cheating their way to the top.