New expanded list of abilities the ST/KM synergy prevents (with explanations)

Username72647Username72647 Member Posts: 387
edited October 2018 in General Discussion
Masochism - completely shuts it down

Astral Evade - shuts it down as long as you hit .7s after stun

Ice armor from reforming - shuts it down after it is broken

Cable's degen on bleed - completely shuts it down

Reflect stun - shuts it down

Auto block+ - has to be timed properly in order to shut it down; does not keep auto block from happening on consecutive hits

LC's indestructible+ - shuts it down during the .7s of a stun which means you'll score damage during indestructible

Crossbones' fury conversion - completely shuts it down

King Groot's shrug off - completely shuts it down

Groot's shrug off - completely shuts it down; becomes irrelevant if you have maxed parry and stupify

Hood's invisibility+ - works like LC's indestructible

Glancing* - any hit after a stun will not be glancing as well as a bleed; this becomes more powerful when combined with Omega Red's synergy

Any buff on hit (fury, armor up, regen, etc.)* - this is true for any hit after stun or bleed

Doctor Strange's defense buff+ - for the .7s of the debuff, it ignores the armor up

AV's tenacity - completely shuts it down

KP's rage - completely shuts it down

Electro's thorns+ - the thorns will not activate during the .7s of a debuff; Omega Red's synergy amplifies this

Hela's indestructible+ - simply stun and hit or bleed her to immediately kill during indestructible

Limbo on meter gain* - this is hard to time, but if the .7s is active during meter gain, it will not activate limbo

Starky's evade special - stun, medium then special to shut it down

Subtlety - completely shuts it down

Rhino Armor+ - it behaves the same as against DS' armor up

MODOK's shield+ - it does not remove shield but prevents it during the .7s of a stun; he cannot shield during specials since they bleed; Omega Red's synergy almost prevent shield completely

Morningstar's bleed on hit+ - it will not activate during the .7s of a stun

+ = for the .7 seconds, does not remove buff
* = debuff has to cause buff; buff can reform

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Untested:

Goldpool's regen
Magneto's (both) damage reduction
Gwenpool's damage reduction
Ghost's phase
Emma Frost's diamond armor
Juggernaut's stagger on parry
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  • Solrac_2Solrac_2 Member Posts: 497 ★★
    Thanks for all the work!
  • WHOz_R4GEWHOz_R4GE Member Posts: 239 ★★
    This is great. Would be extra helpful if you described whether it was ST or KM that got the benefit or both champions. (I.e. does the Synergy shut Masocism down just when using ST or with KM too).
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  • HeadrollerHeadroller Member Posts: 255
    What’s ST
  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★
    Sabertooth
  • bryndenriversbryndenrivers Member Posts: 443 ★★
    Masochism - completely shuts it down

    Astral Evade - shuts it down as long as you hit .7s after stun

    Ice armor from reforming - shuts it down after it is broken

    Cable's degen on bleed - completely shuts it down

    Reflect stun - shuts it down

    Auto block+ - has to be timed properly in order to shut it down; does not keep auto block from happening on consecutive hits

    LC's indestructible+ - shuts it down during the .7s of a stun which means you'll score damage during indestructible

    Crossbones' fury conversion - completely shuts it down

    King Groot's shrug off - completely shuts it down

    Groot's shrug off - completely shuts it down; becomes irrelevant if you have maxed parry and stupify

    Hood's invisibility+ - works like LC's indestructible

    Glancing* - any hit after a stun will not be glancing as well as a bleed; this becomes more powerful when combined with Omega Red's synergy

    Any buff on hit (fury, armor up, regen, etc.)* - this is true for any hit after stun or bleed

    Doctor Strange's defense buff+ - for the .7s of the debuff, it ignores the armor up

    AV's tenacity - completely shuts it down

    KP's rage - completely shuts it down

    Electro's thorns+ - the thorns will not activate during the .7s of a debuff; Omega Red's synergy amplifies this

    Hela's indestructible+ - simply stun and hit or bleed her to immediately kill during indestructible

    Limbo on meter gain* - this is hard to time, but if the .7s is active during meter gain, it will not activate limbo

    Starky's evade special - stun, medium then special to shut it down

    Subtlety - completely shuts it down

    Rhino Armor+ - it behaves the same as against DS' armor up

    MODOK's shield+ - it does not remove shield but prevents it during the .7s of a stun; he cannot shield during specials since they bleed; Omega Red's synergy almost prevent shield completely

    Morningstar's bleed on hit+ - it will not activate during the .7s of a stun

    + = for the .7 seconds, does not remove buff
    * = debuff has to cause buff; buff can reform

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    Untested:

    Goldpool's regen
    Magneto's (both) damage reduction
    Gwenpool's damage reduction
    Ghost's phase
    Emma Frost's diamond armor this part here she essentially debuff immune while its active and it functions just like nc two stances in the sense theres no preventing or ifnoring nc stance. so not only you not put a debuff on her thats in st arsenal ie bleed and stun so its got no effect on diamond form
    Juggernaut's stagger on parry

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  • Anurag1606Anurag1606 Member Posts: 1,181 ★★★
    Awesome useful Post OP. I haven't liked ST too much till now. But that maybe because I have him as 4 star r4 only and he feels weaker than other 4 star r4s. I have got the synergy. I'll give it a test after seeing your extensive work. Thanks again. Really appreciate the effort to do and then come out to tell others. Keep it up buddy.
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  • WhathappenedWhathappened Member Posts: 747 ★★★
    edited October 2018
    Cable does have AAR if you eat a special 2 I believe...I'd have to look to be sure.
    Yes it works on Mordo. @Username72647
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    I’m fairly certain it does not work on KG. He seems to always shrug off stun.
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  • PaytoPlayPaytoPlay Member Posts: 762 ★★★
    Are you sure it ignores Astral Evade? Mordo is immune to Ability Accuracy Reduction.

    https://youtu.be/IDzOYdu3rVI

    It works because mordo ability reduction is only on passive ability. ST ability is active.
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  • PaytoPlayPaytoPlay Member Posts: 762 ★★★
    edited October 2018
    PaytoPlay wrote: »
    Are you sure it ignores Astral Evade? Mordo is immune to Ability Accuracy Reduction.

    https://youtu.be/IDzOYdu3rVI

    It works because mordo ability reduction is only on passive ability. ST ability is active.

    Yeah, we've had this convo somewhere...

    More like everywhere lol. But I like your post the most is super useful. I rather read this than the official spotlight TY.
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