5.2.4 Magik how did it go for you?
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5.2.4 Magik how did it go for you? 64 votes
Fair challenge
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What a waste of time
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Wasted time and items then switched paths
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Never Again
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But that is called overpowering. But yes it should work too.
but for me I still did not challange that path yet. too scared to challange her.
So just out of curiosity, I'd honestly like to understand the following suggestions that were put forth earlier:
1) Gully - ok. In previous post, this had been discussed and I think she can work despite the very narrow window during Masochism. I haven't tried but the logic is sound.
2) Archangel - does neurotoxin (a passive) gets debuffed when Buffet triggers? Genuinely curious here cos neurotoxin is bleed dependant. So does neurotoxin continues to work even after bleed is debuffed?
3) X23 - same. her prowess is bleed dependant. Is her stacked bleed sufficient to cause above 10k before debuff triggers?
4) Vision - bad call. I tried during my first run. His power burn comes with 7sec heal block. It will simply trigger Buffet every single time. Same goes with Ultron.
5) Gwenpool - again, bleed dependant. I tried with a
5* 3/45 sig lvl20. After 90hits, coupled with suffering 2 Limbos, and 2 Sp3 from Magik, she remains at full health. I basically exit the fight knowing Gwenpool simply cannot counter Buffet.
6) Magik - she is by far the most effective for me.
Would appreciate some response especially on x23 and Archangel. Thanks in advance.
My go-to was voodoo. Put the brother daniel on her, and its a 50% reduction in chance of limbo, and gaining health from buffs/debuffs. Only use odd combo sp2 and can manage power slightly also. I still used revives for either luck not going my way, or having a terrible fight.
for other areas of the map, the reason bleeders really work (besides overpowering) is if you have despair for a mastery. For this map I actually went back and put the third level in, previously I only had 2. Once in awhile, the debuff will be eaten and converted but the debuffs that are on the opponent will decrease healing. Same strategy can be used for magik, IF she hits limbo, despair affects the amount of health she gains back. Not saying these are great answers for her, but possible answers
What about Mordo? His Soul Barb seriously hampers life gain, but if it gets eaten by masochism, it doesn't matter. He also has very good energy resistance while blocking.
I haven't done Magik yet, so just throwing out ideas.
Lies,
Thor owns this magik due to node reversal and armor break. Og vision, Guillotine, jane foster, Mordo, and HE are choices as well.
Other choices are Archangel, Gwenpool, Karnak, Electra and Quake due to ability accuracy reduction.
@CapWW2 I don't doubt your ability at in-game but I have serious reservations about your Thor suggestion for 5.2.4 center path. Again no disrespect to you as you may well have completed 5.2 using Thor. What I question is Thor's suitability for 5.2.4. Thor's AB is capped at 2x. Max damage even at role reversal surely cannot go beyond 10k over 5 combos, and that's even assuming you manage to squeeze 2x AB+5 combos before buffet kicks in every 7sec cycle. Not to mention also that's assuming you kept Magik in check at power bar 1 to refrain her from going into Limbo. In summary I just don't see how Thor can be the go-to champ versus Magik or DS at 5.2.4 no matter how aggressive you play Thor. Further to your other suggestions, I did use GP and OR Vision/Vision AOU versus Magik and there is no way these champs are remotely suitable to counter buffet.
What I'm keen to understand further is Archangel's Neurotoxin effectiveness versus Buffet when it triggers.