Aw mismatching( when this problem is going to be solved)

ZombieZeddZombieZedd Member Posts: 1,198 ★★★
We are matched against pretty strong ally whom we have to take on EMMA ,KORG guys . I'm not complaining about that but their ally rating is far more than us but only war rating is same . This shouldn't happnen. Match accordingly to the Ally rating not war rating. Small ally like us are always putted against giant ones

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  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,336 ★★★★★
    If Matchmaking is based on Ally Rating, then everyone would be selling their 2/3*s to get easier matchups.

    War Rating should be the only thing that matters.
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  • RektorRektor Member Posts: 678 ★★★
    War rating is the only thing that matters during matchmaking except for when 3400 war ratings regularly match 2650 ratings.
  • DTMelodicMetalDTMelodicMetal Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    Rektor wrote: »
    War rating is the only thing that matters during matchmaking except for when 3400 war ratings regularly match 2650 ratings.

    Insert defensive response:
    “haters gon’ hate”
    “fight smarter not harder”
    “it’s called strategy”
  • Blax4everBlax4ever Member Posts: 683 ★★★
    Kabam can’t win with matchmaking.

    There aren’t enough full strength alliances playing AW to match alliances equally.

    So Kabam matches those alliances who are playing the game. This is the part where RNG unbalances war. Never mind all of the people talking about War Rating it’s BS.

    Either you have the champs to tackle the nodes or you don’t.

    Try not to get too caught up in winning and losing AW, it’s not healthy, the game is unbalanced so you have to accept that some allys will not lose and some will not win.
  • DTMelodicMetalDTMelodicMetal Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    edited December 2018
    Blax4ever wrote: »
    Kabam can’t win with matchmaking.

    There aren’t enough full strength alliances playing AW to match alliances equally.

    So Kabam matches those alliances who are playing the game. This is the part where RNG unbalances war. Never mind all of the people talking about War Rating it’s BS.

    Change matchmaking so that it is done by Kabam and not players, this could be done by making AW matchmaking similar to AQ. AQ opens at the same time every week, no alliance has a problem with that.
  • Blax4everBlax4ever Member Posts: 683 ★★★
    @DTMelodicMetal

    No arguement from me, people have suggested some great ideas for AW matchmaking over the years. Unfortunately what we have is what Kabam thinks is best and therefore it is what it is.

    However no matter what they do some group will complain so Kabam can’t win but anyone claiming war rating is working is either full of it or a Kabam employee
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,256 Guardian
    Blax4ever wrote: »
    Kabam can’t win with matchmaking.

    There aren’t enough full strength alliances playing AW to match alliances equally.

    So Kabam matches those alliances who are playing the game. This is the part where RNG unbalances war. Never mind all of the people talking about War Rating it’s BS.

    Change matchmaking so that it is done by Kabam and not players, this could be done by making AW matchmaking similar to AQ. AQ opens at the same time every week, no alliance has a problem with that.

    Actually, AQ and AW both open and close at fixed times, but also in both AQ and AW you aren't required to actually start at the same time for everyone. Changing AW to force everyone to start at the same time would actually make it different from AQ, not the same.

    With one corner case exception, it is the only way to resolve these match making issues, but it is still something that would be a significant and undesirable change for many alliances. Which is one of the reasons I suggested two divisions of AW with different competitive rules.

    The one corner case is best illustrated by a hypothetical. Imagine all the top alliances start at 2800. Then imagine one of them wins every match while every other alliance wins and loses at a more even rate, something between 50/50 and 60/40, which is the norm. That one alliance could end up with a far higher rating than all other alliances - deservedly if they actually beat all the competition fairly - but then there wouldn't exist any alliance for them to be "fairly" matched with. Even in identical starting-gun match making, you can't completely eliminate edge cases like this, although they would be generally very uncommon.

    This is amplified by the fact that I don't know precisely what system Kabam is using to calculate ratings adjustments but whatever it is it doesn't seem to be well-behaved in the mathematical sense of that phrase.
  • DTMelodicMetalDTMelodicMetal Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 wrote: »
    Actually, AQ and AW both open and close at fixed times, but also in both AQ and AW you aren't required to actually start at the same time for everyone. Changing AW to force everyone to start at the same time would actually make it different from AQ, not the same.

    With one corner case exception, it is the only way to resolve these match making issues, but it is still something that would be a significant and undesirable change for many alliances. Which is one of the reasons I suggested two divisions of AW with different competitive rules.

    The one corner case is best illustrated by a hypothetical. Imagine all the top alliances start at 2800. Then imagine one of them wins every match while every other alliance wins and loses at a more even rate, something between 50/50 and 60/40, which is the norm. That one alliance could end up with a far higher rating than all other alliances - deservedly if they actually beat all the competition fairly - but then there wouldn't exist any alliance for them to be "fairly" matched with. Even in identical starting-gun match making, you can't completely eliminate edge cases like this, although they would be generally very uncommon.

    This is amplified by the fact that I don't know precisely what system Kabam is using to calculate ratings adjustments but whatever it is it doesn't seem to be well-behaved in the mathematical sense of that phrase.

    I've been all for this suggestion since I first read it @DNA3000. The current system has failed, something needs to be changed. I doubt Kabam is pleased about master tier alliances consistently steamrolling opponents because of a 700+ war ratings points differential. Corrupt competition and a decrease in revenue from lopsided wars is double bad for business.
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