Mephisto vs Human Torch

cdub71cdub71 Member Posts: 79
If Nova Flame is treated as Incinerate Debuffs why Does Mephisto take damage from this passive debuff. Shouldnt it just raise his power bar quicker? Is this a bug or acting as it should.

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  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,015 ★★★★★
    No. Nova flames are treated as incinerate debuffs for Human Torch's abilities.
    Not for the opponent, not for anyone besides the user itself, Human Torch.

    Nova flames itself are not incinerate effects, so champions that interact with incinerate debuffs/passives/damage won't do anything against Nova flames
  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★
    Nova flame is treated as an incinerate debuff only where activating human torch abilities are concerned. For everyone else nova flames are passive effects that deal damage over time.
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  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,015 ★★★★★
    That is different. You're overthinking.
    It says right there on his abilities that Nova flame's are treated ad incinerate debuffs for Human Torch abilitites. For HIS abilities, not for the opponent or anyone else.
    The problem here is people treating Nova flame's as incinerates, when they are not.
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  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,015 ★★★★★
    Nothing like that ...
    Being coldsnap immune doesn't have anything to being frostbite immunity ... A champion can be immune to one, or the other. Or even both. No problem there.

    Not going to discuss more about the text. It's pretty clear the way it is. It would be different if it just said "nova flame's are considered incinerate debuffs". That would generate a weird interaction in the game, for both Human Torch and the opponent. But since it says "... for Human Torch's abilities" then it's perfectly fine. It just means that what he can do with his incinerates, he does the same with his Nova Flame's. Copy text the abilities list.

    Don't about about the rest. IM doesn't apply codlsnap, and Frostbite is a passive ability that causes damage once it expires. Is not a buff
  • belli300belli300 Member Posts: 704 ★★★
    No I think this need to be addressed by a mod as to whether or not this is working as intended before the character is released people spend a bunch of money or tome to get him and then next month they tell us it wasn’t intended to interact this way
  • belli300belli300 Member Posts: 704 ★★★
    Nvm I spoke before reading the spot light and it’s clearly stated how the interaction is intended to work
  • SlappapowSlappapow Member Posts: 130
    I just say, incinerate is regular fire and Nova Flames are cosmic radioactive fires.
  • OrdalcaOrdalca Member Posts: 543 ★★★
    It's like Aegon's charges where they are counted as part of his streak "for his abilities". They do not get counted as hit streak for nodes such as Dismay or Combo Party, nor for Star Lord's Block Proficiency.
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  • LeoGnarleyardoLeoGnarleyardo Member Posts: 355 ★★

  • Kabam ZibiitKabam Zibiit Administrator Posts: 7,033
    Hey there, as some have mentioned, Nove Flames are Passive Effects that deal Energy damage over time, remove Perfect Block Chance, reduce Block Proficiency to 0, and inflict Power Sting, but they are not Incinerate Effects. They are treated as Incinerate Debuffs for all of Human Torch's abilities, but they are not treated as such by the abilities of other Champions.

    In the case of Mephisto, his ability allows him to gain Power instead of taking Incinerate Energy Damage but, since Nove Flames aren't Incinerate Effects and don't deal Incinerate Energy Damage, he would not gain Power from Nove Flames and would still take the Energy Damage from them. Hope that helps clear things up!
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