I agree with most of guys here who say this event underwhelms.
I would rather earn intel or whatnot to get a five star awakening gem crystal than a next to nothing chance at one. This aggravates the whole sentiment of the backlash.
I would still rage and rant, but still, item earned nonetheless. Rather than clear content and cross fingers I dont get the finger from spinning last stand crystals.
What doesn't make sense about it? Collect a stone, complete another path. Except now you can complete the whole thing without waiting for the rest of the stones.
The rewards are to much random to get from too often bs (unless you are a player with few 4-5*) to rarely good stuff useful to long time player like many of us like t2 alpha or t5 basics or even 5* shards. The price before the downgrade has been by far too heavy in units and objects. Better get a good compensation for that especially during the TOP MOVIE event from the last 4 years.
Why didnt they just put a greater greater crystal for 20k shards that just gave 5* or 6* shards, t2as or t5bc shards
Having seen the adjusted difficulty, I believe the original intent was for this event to have moderate difficulty with moderate rewards so a large percentage of the players would be able to get most of the rewards. And then they missed their difficulty mark by an almost astronomical level.
The devs didn't just wake up and realize they made the event too hard, nor did they suddenly get swayed by forum posts regarding the difficulty. That's just not how game devs in general and this dev team in particular work. Historical evidence demonstrates they are a data driven dev team much like most are. Given the sudden downgrade in difficulty and the huge amount of the downgrade, my conclusion is that they saw the game data and saw a huge amount of player event failures and/or a lot of giving up on the event - player disengagement due to difficulty. Those numbers must have been almost scarily high: I would guess they started off very high, and then got even worse when the second stone was far weaker than the first one.
That's the sort of thing that compels devs to make changes. It is almost certainly what compelled them to nerf the Sentinels in AQ, two weeks after they were added. My feeling is that difficulty for the top two tiers of the event has been slashed by between 65% and 80% overall. That's a gigantic reduction, and it suggests the completion rate for this event should be really high, far higher than I think we all know it actually is.
Even with the difficulty changed, the rewards are still not what they should be for the biggest event in the Marvel Universe with the release of End game. If this game is part of that universe, then the rewards should show that. Getting shards towards a crystal that only gives you a chance at good rewards is very disappointing. One thing that I have always bragged about when it comes to MCOC is the fact that they come out with new content to align with the Marvel movies. You go see the movie and get to play against the players from the movie. Awesome concept for a Marvel fan. This should have been the most rewarding month in MCOC history. We all know that it did not even come close. If anything, it is one of the worst we have had in the game compared to the most recent months.
Even with the difficulty changed, the rewards are still not what they should be for the biggest event in the Marvel Universe with the release of End game. If this game is part of that universe, then the rewards should show that. Getting shards towards a crystal that only gives you a chance at good rewards is very disappointing. One thing that I have always bragged about when it comes to MCOC is the fact that they come out with new content to align with the Marvel movies. You go see the movie and get to play against the players from the movie. Awesome concept for a Marvel fan. This should have been the most rewarding month in MCOC history. We all know that it did not even come close. If anything, it is one of the worst we have had in the game compared to the most recent months.
I wouldn't say it was one of the worst. And on any other day, I'd also say that I don't think this is a reasonable expectation. Just because the movie is a big deal doesn't mean every Marvel game is supposed to be raining candy on its players.
However, I believe Endgame is literally a once in a lifetime event. I have high hopes for the MCU but even if it continues to be successful there's no guarantee they could (or necessarily need to) replicate the success of Endgame. And we might not have the kind of closure we get with Endgame ever again. I don't think the current events are as bad as many are saying, but I also wouldn't be proud of them if I were a designer of them.
I don't really care about the rewards that much. They are what they are. The game comes first. And I think the content could have been so much better. I'm not angry it isn't. I'm not even very disappointed. But I feel a lost opportunity MCOC will never get back.
Say me - if you can get a 3* version of Hawkeye for passing the "Reality" line (for those who don't have any version of Hawkeye, especially 4* or 5*), why is it impossible to pass? It cost me almost 200 units for passing Master difficulty (The Thing only), and I spent another 200 units for Epic (again Thing) and all i could do - only 20% of his HP and wasted EVERYTHING. Potions, units, every possible boosts. For maxed out 3* Hawkeye.
You know, after this I don't want to play at all. I feel only anger. If it is not suitable for passing with 3* character (which is not true, you can pass "Soul" line with 3* Cap), so why it wasn't obvious? Why we should try and lose, try again, spend everythin and lose again? Damage that Hawkeye do is so low to the Thing, especially with regeneration, that it's impossible to win AT ALL.
Look, I criticize Kabam as much as any one else. And complaints about the rewards or lack of entertainment value in the side quests is legit, I mean your wielding the most powerful weapons in the universe and your shock damage is like 17 or whatever. Its junk and not fun.
That being said now that they nerfed the difficulty cause people weren't going to play it. It is not even remotely challenging. The challenge now matches the lackluster rewards.
If you cant beat these events it's just above your skill level or your doing something wrong.
Kabam, Completed all special events and quests for last stand crystal. Even though HIGHER LAST STAND CRYSTAL IS UTTER WASTE... It gave me 3 times 4star crystal shards and t4bcs. HIGHER LAST STAND CRYSTAL should need a repatch. My sad I have nothing left. Deadpool ROMANCE CRYSTAL were awesome than this.
Not sure why they didn't make it a store, like many other events,
They are just insistent on putting rng in everything. People don't like rng in every thing! People want a clear goal to work towards. They want to know their effort will pay off.
Someone literally could get gold in every crystal while someone else gets multiple 5* awakening gems. An extreme example but not impossible at all. It just isn't fun, fair, engaging or rewarding.
Please stop this rng in e Rey single aspect of rewards, especially for events.
Infinity dust, scrap, those worked so well. Very few complaints.
Rifts, things like this.. just pure garbage that is largely disliked.
Part of what sucks about this month is the stagnation of a 6-week event. It’s low on energy costs because of Thanos (props for this). You’re either gonna clear him or not. I’m probably not because Blade’s damn heavy won’t connect. The sidequest is low on rewards and they’re heavily RNG based...this could’ve been prevented with a fourth crystal tier to get 6-star shards, t2a and t5b.
There’s also the “why bother” factor with the sidequest - clearing 2-5 paths is meaningless. Clearing 1 matters. Clearing all 6 matters. I’m not doing this mess with a 3-star Iron Man or 4-star 3/30 Cap. There should have been a chest on each path to make each path count.
What doesn't make sense about it? Collect a stone, complete another path. Except now you can complete the whole thing without waiting for the rest of the stones.
If one stone can clear all paths, why make so many stones?
What doesn't make sense about it? Collect a stone, complete another path. Except now you can complete the whole thing without waiting for the rest of the stones.
If one stone can clear all paths, why make so many stones?
Well I think it's not the best design on the one hand. But if you only have one good version of any one of the champs that get upgraded it's nice that you only need one stone.
One annoying thing about the Stones, they seem to be registering as a Boost, which means your Summoner Bar icon is permanently highlighted this month. Hard to know when “actual” boosts have worn off yet when doing other quests like Uncollected.
What doesn't make sense about it? Collect a stone, complete another path. Except now you can complete the whole thing without waiting for the rest of the stones.
If one stone can clear all paths, why make so many stones?
Well I think it's not the best design on the one hand. But if you only have one good version of any one of the champs that get upgraded it's nice that you only need one stone.
It is 3 stones so far and I think the regen plus power control could well be the best especially for that Jugg path. Can't see how other stones can mitigate a power gain node.
Anyway, my skills are not up to mark to tackle epic, so I will try chip away at Act 5.4, Rttl or even RoL.
a thanos to me seems extraordinarily hard in irreclaimable. I still can not beat it, a lot of health and attack. not to mention the very low playability that we have had due to the problems of animation and lags. I thought there would be correction but there was not. just a painful compensation. I prefer that they improve performance rather than receiving apologies and compensations.
a thanos to me seems extraordinarily hard in irreclaimable. I still can not beat it, a lot of health and attack. not to mention the very low playability that we have had due to the problems of animation and lags. I thought there would be correction but there was not. just a painful compensation. I prefer that they improve performance rather than receiving apologies and compensations.
I beat him in Uncollected but took everything I had. Without a doubt, the toughest Uncollected Quest boss I have ever faced. Working on coasting through to 100% all quest. As far as the Last stand quest, the rewards have been very disappointing since I have not gotten any 5* awakening gems and only have less than have the epic quest to beat. I am not too happy with the direction this game is taking. I am using up all my stash and will be taking a break after this month. The effort you have to put in the game no longer equals the rewards at the higher levels. I think Kabam has done a very poor job of making rank up items available for your 5* after the 6* were released. When 5* were released, it became way easier to get the resource to max your 4*. Not so much for your 5* after the 6* were released. After maxing out my first 5*, I have realized how long it will be before I can take another 5* to R5. Way too long!
I don't understand the logic when this event was created. Captain America + soul stone can clear most of the paths. Hawkeye is useful for one path. Iron Man is terrible; Black widow + time stone doesn't really add much to the pathway - using Captain America was a lot easier. Isn't the point of the stones to make the path more manageable?
I know most have cleared the paths. But black widow with time stone was quite fun I thought. Evading like a boss, high power gain, etc. She one-shot the Thing even though he went unblockable early from the Rage node.
It baffles me how come iron man’s buffs are so badly designed.
I know most have cleared the paths. But black widow with time stone was quite fun I thought. Evading like a boss, high power gain, etc. She one-shot the Thing even though he went unblockable early from the Rage node.
It baffles me how come iron man’s buffs are so badly designed.
I enjoyed playing with Black Widow as well. I am playing each path in Epic as it comes out each week for the fun of it. I agree that Ironman was not done well at all. I ranked up my unduped 5* to R3 for the event but he does not gain the regeneration benefit unduped. For Black Widow and Thor, I ranked up my 4*s to R4 since they are duped. i would imagine that an unduped Black Widow would not have been as good as she needs to be able to not trigger player abilities. Wish I would have ranked up my duped 4* IM to at least R4 but at the same token, when will I ever really use these champs again. That is 10 T4 Basic catalyst, 7 tier 1 alphas and 3 T4 Tech catalyst wasted just for one path on one event. Luckily I already had my 4* Hulk and Hawkeye at R5.
Haven’t read much on this thread... but I’m stopping in to add my 2 cents...
This is a terrible event for this massive MCU event. The reward to effort ratio is skewed terribly. Wayyyy too much stick, not enough carrot. The awful RNG nature of the Last Stand crystals makes this one of the more patience testing events Kabam has ever had. I have no drive to 100% multiple difficulties of this. Too much energy required. AND WE STILL HAVE 19 DAYS LEFT.
Kabam dropped the ball on this. It should have been one if the best events in MCOC history, to coincide with the culmination of 10 years of what the MCU has accomplished. Instead I can’t wait for EQ reset.
It would be super awesome if Kabam threw in a Celeb Challenge or something, because the next 19 days are going to suck.
Haven’t read much on this thread... but I’m stopping in to add my 2 cents...
This is a terrible event for this massive MCU event. The reward to effort ratio is skewed terribly. Wayyyy too much stick, not enough carrot. The awful RNG nature of the Last Stand crystals makes this one of the more patience testing events Kabam has ever had. I have no drive to 100% multiple difficulties of this. Too much energy required. AND WE STILL HAVE 19 DAYS LEFT.
Kabam dropped the ball on this. It should have been one if the best events in MCOC history, to coincide with the culmination of 10 years of what the MCU has accomplished. Instead I can’t wait for EQ reset.
It would be super awesome if Kabam threw in a Celeb Challenge or something, because the next 19 days are going to suck.
It is so bad that I am going to take a break from the game after this month. I used all my stash and it will be a long time before I can rank up another 5* to R4 so not worth the effort of how long it will take. I might have still played if we were getting more 5* shards this month but that does not seem to be the case either since I have competed most of the monthly content already. At a stand still and can not count on the game to provided the resource I need in a timely matter. Feel like I am just going through the motions this month. Very boring.
I know most have cleared the paths. But black widow with time stone was quite fun I thought. Evading like a boss, high power gain, etc. She one-shot the Thing even though he went unblockable early from the Rage node.
It baffles me how come iron man’s buffs are so badly designed.
I enjoyed playing with Black Widow as well. I am playing each path in Epic as it comes out each week for the fun of it. I agree that Ironman was not done well at all. I ranked up my unduped 5* to R3 for the event but he does not gain the regeneration benefit unduped. For Black Widow and Thor, I ranked up my 4*s to R4 since they are duped. i would imagine that an unduped Black Widow would not have been as good as she needs to be able to not trigger player abilities. Wish I would have ranked up my duped 4* IM to at least R4 but at the same token, when will I ever really use these champs again. That is 10 T4 Basic catalyst, 7 tier 1 alphas and 3 T4 Tech catalyst wasted just for one path on one event. Luckily I already had my 4* Hulk and Hawkeye at R5.
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I would rather earn intel or whatnot to get a five star awakening gem crystal than a next to nothing chance at one. This aggravates the whole sentiment of the backlash.
I would still rage and rant, but still, item earned nonetheless. Rather than clear content and cross fingers I dont get the finger from spinning last stand crystals.
Almost sounds like a marketing strategy...lol
Plot twist, mcoc is actually a marketing game that kabaam is playing and we are the “champions”
The price before the downgrade has been by far too heavy in units and objects.
Better get a good compensation for that especially during the TOP MOVIE event from the last 4 years.
The devs didn't just wake up and realize they made the event too hard, nor did they suddenly get swayed by forum posts regarding the difficulty. That's just not how game devs in general and this dev team in particular work. Historical evidence demonstrates they are a data driven dev team much like most are. Given the sudden downgrade in difficulty and the huge amount of the downgrade, my conclusion is that they saw the game data and saw a huge amount of player event failures and/or a lot of giving up on the event - player disengagement due to difficulty. Those numbers must have been almost scarily high: I would guess they started off very high, and then got even worse when the second stone was far weaker than the first one.
That's the sort of thing that compels devs to make changes. It is almost certainly what compelled them to nerf the Sentinels in AQ, two weeks after they were added. My feeling is that difficulty for the top two tiers of the event has been slashed by between 65% and 80% overall. That's a gigantic reduction, and it suggests the completion rate for this event should be really high, far higher than I think we all know it actually is.
However, I believe Endgame is literally a once in a lifetime event. I have high hopes for the MCU but even if it continues to be successful there's no guarantee they could (or necessarily need to) replicate the success of Endgame. And we might not have the kind of closure we get with Endgame ever again. I don't think the current events are as bad as many are saying, but I also wouldn't be proud of them if I were a designer of them.
I don't really care about the rewards that much. They are what they are. The game comes first. And I think the content could have been so much better. I'm not angry it isn't. I'm not even very disappointed. But I feel a lost opportunity MCOC will never get back.
You know, after this I don't want to play at all. I feel only anger. If it is not suitable for passing with 3* character (which is not true, you can pass "Soul" line with 3* Cap), so why it wasn't obvious? Why we should try and lose, try again, spend everythin and lose again? Damage that Hawkeye do is so low to the Thing, especially with regeneration, that it's impossible to win AT ALL.
That being said now that they nerfed the difficulty cause people weren't going to play it. It is not even remotely challenging. The challenge now matches the lackluster rewards.
If you cant beat these events it's just above your skill level or your doing something wrong.
Completed all special events and quests for last stand crystal. Even though HIGHER LAST STAND CRYSTAL IS UTTER WASTE... It gave me 3 times 4star crystal shards and t4bcs. HIGHER LAST STAND CRYSTAL should need a repatch. My sad I have nothing left.
Deadpool ROMANCE CRYSTAL were awesome than this.
Midhun ☹️
Basically nothing I can use, should've listened to the consensus on these rewards and save my refills and my time.
They are just insistent on putting rng in everything. People don't like rng in every thing! People want a clear goal to work towards. They want to know their effort will pay off.
Someone literally could get gold in every crystal while someone else gets multiple 5* awakening gems. An extreme example but not impossible at all. It just isn't fun, fair, engaging or rewarding.
Please stop this rng in e Rey single aspect of rewards, especially for events.
Infinity dust, scrap, those worked so well. Very few complaints.
Rifts, things like this.. just pure garbage that is largely disliked.
Learn.
There’s also the “why bother” factor with the sidequest - clearing 2-5 paths is meaningless. Clearing 1 matters. Clearing all 6 matters. I’m not doing this mess with a 3-star Iron Man or 4-star 3/30 Cap. There should have been a chest on each path to make each path count.
Anyway, my skills are not up to mark to tackle epic, so I will try chip away at Act 5.4, Rttl or even RoL.
It baffles me how come iron man’s buffs are so badly designed.
This is a terrible event for this massive MCU event. The reward to effort ratio is skewed terribly. Wayyyy too much stick, not enough carrot. The awful RNG nature of the Last Stand crystals makes this one of the more patience testing events Kabam has ever had. I have no drive to 100% multiple difficulties of this. Too much energy required. AND WE STILL HAVE 19 DAYS LEFT.
Kabam dropped the ball on this. It should have been one if the best events in MCOC history, to coincide with the culmination of 10 years of what the MCU has accomplished. Instead I can’t wait for EQ reset.
It would be super awesome if Kabam threw in a Celeb Challenge or something, because the next 19 days are going to suck.