Ghost can do it. Someone else in T3 (highest possible stats) fighting against R4 Thing took him out in 13 hits with one-punch man move
He must not have been a duped Thing, as his safeguard awakened ability would mitigate much of the damage. Mine at Sig 150 reduces damage by 70% plus 1% per rock stack. Makes a 13 hit kill extremely difficult.
DTMelodicMetal said it right. Use champion that has a taunt. He mentions NT, also Stark Spiderman would work too. Taunting will still make the opponent use a special, even on AON node
Spark will probably time out, and not a lot of ppl have NT, especially at that high of a rank.
Lol why would sparky time out? Get him to 10 poise he does great damage...
Seems like you dont know thing‘s ability
Sparky works. Haven't tried against a 5/65, but fought a 4/55 and nearly got the solo if I hadn't screwed up
He works for 5/65 Thing too. Boost heavy and only use heavy attacks, taunt and power drain get the job done.
If we are talking about game balance then this combo seems a little unbalanced. Any strategy that keeps his power below SP3 builds up his rock stack charges to the point where he is unstoppable the rest of the fight.
Thing Counters - Blade, GP, Ronin, KM & Fury are all solid champs for easy bleeds to prevent a build up of rock stacks but none have the ability to power control so after a couple combo rounds you get hit with SP3 and then unstoppable & unblockable for 8 seconds - DVD, Magik & Vision are solid champs for power control strong enough to drain/prevent thing from collecting enough power to reach SP3 but not able to remove rock stacks before reaching 15 so you are constantly dealing with unstoppable passive - SheHulk, Night Thrasher & Emma are solid champs for taunting but in the end face the same problem as power control champs
Runner Up counters - Hawkeye, can't out drain the counter-strike buff with his SP1 so anything drained would be replaced - Domino - can only taunt with a SP2 but at that point it pushes thing to SP3
what am i missing for counters?
What about captain America Infinity War? As long as he has a kinetic charge his hits remove unstoppable and his heavies and spl 2 do quite a bit of damage
If we are talking about game balance then this combo seems a little unbalanced. Any strategy that keeps his power below SP3 builds up his rock stack charges to the point where he is unstoppable the rest of the fight.
Thing Counters - Blade, GP, Ronin, KM & Fury are all solid champs for easy bleeds to prevent a build up of rock stacks but none have the ability to power control so after a couple combo rounds you get hit with SP3 and then unstoppable & unblockable for 8 seconds - DVD, Magik & Vision are solid champs for power control strong enough to drain/prevent thing from collecting enough power to reach SP3 but not able to remove rock stacks before reaching 15 so you are constantly dealing with unstoppable passive - SheHulk, Night Thrasher & Emma are solid champs for taunting but in the end face the same problem as power control champs
Runner Up counters - Hawkeye, can't out drain the counter-strike buff with his SP1 so anything drained would be replaced - Domino - can only taunt with a SP2 but at that point it pushes thing to SP3
what am i missing for counters?
What about captain America Infinity War? As long as he has a kinetic charge his hits remove unstoppable and his heavies and spl 2 do quite a bit of damage
Thing's passive Unstoppable cannot be nullified by CAIW
DTMelodicMetal said it right. Use champion that has a taunt. He mentions NT, also Stark Spiderman would work too. Taunting will still make the opponent use a special, even on AON node
Spark will probably time out, and not a lot of ppl have NT, especially at that high of a rank.
Lol why would sparky time out? Get him to 10 poise he does great damage...
Seems like you dont know thing‘s ability
Sparky works. Haven't tried against a 5/65, but fought a 4/55 and nearly got the solo if I hadn't screwed up
He works for 5/65 Thing too. Boost heavy and only use heavy attacks, taunt and power drain get the job done.
Problem with heavy attacks is his protective ability. Happens when you parry him or he does a heavy. So need to wait it out and then hit. Rather, I went for a combination. Did regular hits and heavies.
Imo She-Hulk is the best to beat him as Zibiit said
I have her 5* R3 35/35 and she's amazing against almost of all annoying enemies like Mordo, Hyperion, Jugger and every Spider
Mordo cannot use astral evade as well as Spiders cannot use evade while them have slow debuff, which also removes unstoppable in Jugger/Unst Colossus/Thing
Also her petrify on SP2 makes Hyperion and Mordo become basically useless
So yeah, for me she's one of the best to bring in AW considering I have only another 7 5* champs
Would you be able to tell us what other nodes you see with All or Nothing at the tier you are at? I use the Slow Debuff that She-Hulk and Spider-Gwen apply with their Heavy Attacks to keep him from going Unstoppable in some fights. And with She-Hulk, while her opponent is Unstoppable, her Heavy can't be interrupted, removes the Unstoppable, and gives her a Passive Fury. Could be an option if you focus a bit more on her Heavys than usual, assuming other nodes allow for this strategy.
@Kabam Zibiit@Kabam Miike Thing on AoN node in AW is a joke. Only 1 champ really stands a chance at dropping him when he is duped. How is this balance?
After Sp3 he is unstoppable and unblockable so you pretty much just take a beating and nothing you can do but cry in the corner
Would you be able to tell us what other nodes you see with All or Nothing at the tier you are at? I use the Slow Debuff that She-Hulk and Spider-Gwen apply with their Heavy Attacks to keep him from going Unstoppable in some fights. And with She-Hulk, while her opponent is Unstoppable, her Heavy can't be interrupted, removes the Unstoppable, and gives her a Passive Fury. Could be an option if you focus a bit more on her Heavys than usual, assuming other nodes allow for this strategy.
What about the aon?
She-Hulk at least can get him to throw specials with stacked furies. It's not a huge amount, but it's enough to turn off AoN.
Would you be able to tell us what other nodes you see with All or Nothing at the tier you are at? I use the Slow Debuff that She-Hulk and Spider-Gwen apply with their Heavy Attacks to keep him from going Unstoppable in some fights. And with She-Hulk, while her opponent is Unstoppable, her Heavy can't be interrupted, removes the Unstoppable, and gives her a Passive Fury. Could be an option if you focus a bit more on her Heavys than usual, assuming other nodes allow for this strategy.
What about the aon?
She-Hulk at least can get him to throw specials with stacked furies. It's not a huge amount, but it's enough to turn off AoN.
Would you be able to tell us what other nodes you see with All or Nothing at the tier you are at? I use the Slow Debuff that She-Hulk and Spider-Gwen apply with their Heavy Attacks to keep him from going Unstoppable in some fights. And with She-Hulk, while her opponent is Unstoppable, her Heavy can't be interrupted, removes the Unstoppable, and gives her a Passive Fury. Could be an option if you focus a bit more on her Heavys than usual, assuming other nodes allow for this strategy.
What about the aon?
She-Hulk at least can get him to throw specials with stacked furies. It's not a huge amount, but it's enough to turn off AoN.
Would you be able to tell us what other nodes you see with All or Nothing at the tier you are at? I use the Slow Debuff that She-Hulk and Spider-Gwen apply with their Heavy Attacks to keep him from going Unstoppable in some fights. And with She-Hulk, while her opponent is Unstoppable, her Heavy can't be interrupted, removes the Unstoppable, and gives her a Passive Fury. Could be an option if you focus a bit more on her Heavys than usual, assuming other nodes allow for this strategy.
What about the aon?
She-Hulk at least can get him to throw specials with stacked furies. It's not a huge amount, but it's enough to turn off AoN.
One champ out of how many? That is not balance
what about starky, his taunt should work.
It works, but it's a risky fight. Because you need to take care of when you taunt as well since you have to look at the 15 rock stuff as well.
Having said that: I'm not saying he's a great option (I don't play at this tier level, so haven't tried) but you could theoretically use Kingpin on Thing; using his Black-Iso-8 to reduce his build-up of Rock Stacks. Then you can either (1) keep spamming SP1 and pray the Iso-8 AAR kicks in to stop Thing's Unstoppable/Unblockable post-SP3, or (2) use your own SP2 before he triggers SP3, so that you're Unstoppable too, and build up to Overpower mode whilst you beat the **** out of each other.
Having said that: I'm not saying he's a great option (I don't play at this tier level, so haven't tried) but you could theoretically use Kingpin on Thing; using his Black-Iso-8 to reduce his build-up of Rock Stacks. Then you can either (1) keep spamming SP1 and pray the Iso-8 AAR kicks in to stop Thing's Unstoppable/Unblockable post-SP3, or (2) use your own SP2 before he triggers SP3, so that you're Unstoppable too, and build up to Overpower mode whilst you beat the **** out of each other.
It won't be pretty, mind you...
This node also has counter-strike so any special attack gives him a bar power
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Zibiit What are the counters to Things unblockable after SP3? and please don't say put Slow on him prior to SP3 with SheHulk/SpiderGwn. Or is my only option to take a pounding
I didn’t read all the posts, but ghost with hood works well on that. Just do 1 hit combos and phase at special 3. I solod a 5/65 sig 200 with a 4/55 unduped ghost.
If you don’t have ghost, stark, she hulk with taunt could work.
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Thing's passive Unstoppable cannot be nullified by CAIW
That I did not know. Don’t fight him much
I have her 5* R3 35/35 and she's amazing against almost of all annoying enemies like Mordo, Hyperion, Jugger and every Spider
Mordo cannot use astral evade as well as Spiders cannot use evade while them have slow debuff, which also removes unstoppable in Jugger/Unst Colossus/Thing
Also her petrify on SP2 makes Hyperion and Mordo become basically useless
So yeah, for me she's one of the best to bring in AW considering I have only another 7 5* champs
After Sp3 he is unstoppable and unblockable so you pretty much just take a beating and nothing you can do but cry in the corner
Having said that: I'm not saying he's a great option (I don't play at this tier level, so haven't tried) but you could theoretically use Kingpin on Thing; using his Black-Iso-8 to reduce his build-up of Rock Stacks. Then you can either (1) keep spamming SP1 and pray the Iso-8 AAR kicks in to stop Thing's Unstoppable/Unblockable post-SP3, or (2) use your own SP2 before he triggers SP3, so that you're Unstoppable too, and build up to Overpower mode whilst you beat the **** out of each other.
It won't be pretty, mind you...
If you don’t have ghost, stark, she hulk with taunt could work.