Nightcrawler in AW
Agent_007
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Fighting Nightcrawler in war is becoming extremely frustrating. It has taken the enjoyment out of this feature in the game. His evade is turned up way too high. I feel helpless because I can't land a hit, then when he evades he hits you instantaneously and it's unavoidable. This character needs to be looked at and tweaked.
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His evasion chances are high, but are less than halved against non-physical attacks and you can turn them off pushing him to switch mode, or with Ability accuracy reduction / Iceman / TrueStrike champs.
Spiderman has less base evasion but it's the same for every attack and can't be turned off without the said champs.
Kabam needs to fix the evasion bug, not rework NC.
In AW, most Nightcrawlers and Spidermen are on Stun immune nodes man
I was talking about it as if NC was on a node without stun immune.
It is frustrating, yes but it adds to the challenge. An observation that may prove helpful is to do a 3 light hit combo so as to have borderline adequate time to block. Also DO try to get him to switch to his swashbuckling node.
I agree with OP that nightcrawler is a tough champ to take on. Not impossible and definitely quite damaging when placed on stun immune node but possible to beat. Given AW is a team oriented match perhaps try to coordinate better and get a team mate back you up. To this, I wish the OP luck in the future when taking on NCs.
As far as I'm concerned Fel_95 highlighted the only thing that the devs should fix. On that note its bollocks that black widows stun occur mid attack. It defeats the purpose of stunning you opponent (they cant move if you land a successful SP hit). That too should be looked at.
NC however not only has the better evasion, but a successful evade gives him critical enhancement buffs, or stackable evasion buffs. Assuming he has dexterity already he's most definitely op. No one comes close. Magik and Spidey are fair game, but this guy set on a boss node has consistently killed more than any other AW defender I've ever seen. Easily 20+ kills alone.
But I do agree that NC needs a tweaking. His evade can be crazy.
Need tips for Nightcrawler, Mordo and Hyperion. I just can't bait Hyperion.
I agree that a fix is needed for evasion champions.
NC on the stun immune / immunity to debuff nodes is all luck fighting against him. I know on the bugs forum they have stated that they are working on a fix for all champs that have evasion built into their kits because they are able to evade and attack in the same motion leaving us no time to evade or block their incoming attacks.
I say that NC is luck on the stun immune and immunity nodes because if you start attacking him after he dashes backwards and holds his block to change stances there is a good chance he will evade during the timer then hit you instantly. One day I will fight a NC on the war boss node and kill him only using 2 of my champs. The next day it takes all 3 of my champs and everyone else in my BG because the AI decides to evade 100% of the time. NC does such high damage with his critical rate and his deep wounds he can kill a champion within 2-5 hits.
This times 100. Soloed a boss 2 wars ago with witch.
This past war I got smoked on the left miniboss node. Could not get him to switch stances at all.
And for all the nc is easy people...left miniboss path is flooded with nc in t2/3. All I do is fight 2 stunn immune nc every war and it's all up to chance.
Why? You may wonder.
It's because he changes mode faster and I'm not sure if that's intended or not. Just be sure to time your dodges well. Dash back and block when necessary.
Personally I think he is a tricky match-up but not unbeatable. I disagree that he needs tweaking. Making the game too easy can be detrimental in the long run.
he is easy WHEN this happens, maybe you haven't fought him enough that he can evade WHILE you are doing your combo when he is holding block to switch stances. Most good players in tier1/2 do this everyday - we cannot control those 4-5 hits WHILE he is changing stances. We have solo'd tier2 NC bosses that pure luck made him NOT evade while he is stance swapping and we have gotten destroyed when he DOES evade in the middle of a stance swap.
I run tier2 left path full time so this is all I do. It is not skill or predictable. When he evades while your combo is stance swapping him you die. Period. Tier1 I assume is even worse. If you've never lost a fight since you "figured" this out like we all did 6 months ago you're either in low tier or just fight him once in a while. Fight him dozens of times and he WILL evade while stance swap blocking and kill you with 1 combo.
Of course even when being so careful, NC can still wreck you with the evades and massive deep wounds damage but if you follow this method, the chances of getting killed is much lower
I'd also like to say, when you switch him to swashbuckler you do it in 4 hits not 5...