RNG system needed to be reworked

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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 6,063 ★★★★★

    Well let’s say at this “casino” there is a requirement to pull three grapes on a slot machine to be able to enter. Now there are 150 different items and no guarantees you will ever pull any certain item. How long before guys give up trying to get in and move onto something else. Next step let’s say you get in!!! Now you are in and playing life is good your having fun meeting, peers etc when all the sudden they start adding more requirements to maintain your current standing. Now you need to pull an apple, Wood chunk, and Ivory from the slot machine in order to continue participating, Again no guarantees you get to keep the status and level you worked insanely hard to achieve maybe you get lucky or maybe you try till you are so demoralized and disheartened that you just leave.

    You go to some weird casinos.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 20,431 ★★★★★
    Lainua said:

    Lainua said:

    This entire game is RNG, it always has been. If you don't like it, don't play it.

    Time to change. Not because it’s always like that it should stay like that.

    And if you can’t understand my idea, you can stay silent.


    "Your idea" lol. You do understand what you're asking, yes? Even minor suggestions don't get heard around here and you're asking to change the very thing that runs this game?

    You probably pulled something you don't like, everyone has. But you have an equal chance to get something great too. I can agree with you if you had asked to make EQ rewards and stuff non-RNG based. But this is absolute bs.
    Equal chance for what? Equal chance to be insulted? Do you even understand that RNG only does great job for the company - making them rich - not for players including you and you try to keep that unfair system?

    And do you even know about RNG history? It was made for casino. I play a game not gamble. I can’t accept that time and effort I put in this game all lead to frustration. Do you see the frustration of players base? Why did it happen? And you try to obey like a sheep.
    The game is based on RNG. Always has been. What that system does whether you believe it or not, is ensure fairness. Each Player has the same chances at any outcome they spin. Same Drop Rates each time. It's not biased based on spending habits, length of time playing, what you have and/or want or need, or any other factor. It's fair distribution. It's not always what you want everytime, but neither is life. It is not Gambling, nor is it a Casino. The game revolves around RNG. That won't change, and I'm surprised you have a problem playing that way at this stage.
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Posts: 3,589 ★★★★
    “Boo hoo it’s not fair” is all I’m hearing.

    Asking for two choices? Seems legit I would like either a 5* Ægon or 5* Corvus thank you very much.

    You may not realize this yet, but life is not fair. Never has been fair, never will be. This game is actually an interesting tutor in that. It teaches you that yes, some people are better off than you, some people are luckier than you, but the best you can do is work hard to succeed, and maybe luck will be in your favor one day. Very similar to real life in a way.
  • SirmacoolSirmacool Posts: 260
    Game is fine the way it is. We all get good and bad results. People just wine because they didn’t get God tier every single time. They look at whales and say I want that.
    Don’t like what you got. Keep playing. Chances are next champ will be different.
    You can tell by all the comments flagged. People too dang sensitive. Complainers ruin games. Have for a long time.
  • TaZ_4178TaZ_4178 Posts: 285
    To be honest I hear ya completely unfortunately Kabam developed patents in the game to actually make it less rng based. Many just don't want to admit to it, but what pisses me off is getting 5* champs over and over even though I have built my core team, which is great, although getting hb or kingpin 6 times really sucks and is discouraging after a while so I feel ya. What makes it worst is the 4* arena is nothing but too do the 5* featured you literally have to have thousands of units to refresh or whale out to get the champ, which leaves a cavalier like myself just using my units on cav crystals instead of arena. Which can work out sometimes, either way my point is I agree with you and the pool has become too large to really target a champ, so I'm hoping will see a 5* basic arena soon to offset this imbalance a bit... and don't listen to the trolls there good at one thing... trolling... good luck to you and take a break if you need it seriously then come back refreshed.
  • TaZ_4178TaZ_4178 Posts: 285
    Also I betcha the trolls will love that new Loot Box Legislation... when it passes 🍻
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 20,431 ★★★★★
    TaZ_4178 said:

    Also I betcha the trolls will love that new Loot Box Legislation... when it passes 🍻

    You mean the Loot Box Bill that MCOC already adheres to? Lol. Mkay.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 6,063 ★★★★★

    TaZ_4178 said:

    Also I betcha the trolls will love that new Loot Box Legislation... when it passes 🍻

    You mean the Loot Box Bill that MCOC already adheres to? Lol. Mkay.
    There's a new one.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 20,431 ★★★★★

    TaZ_4178 said:

    Also I betcha the trolls will love that new Loot Box Legislation... when it passes 🍻

    You mean the Loot Box Bill that MCOC already adheres to? Lol. Mkay.
    There's a new one.
    There's a Bill proposed. Hasn't passed. Not the first. The only thing that matters is what's in existence.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 20,431 ★★★★★
    For that matter, there's a great deal of grey area within it.
  • LormifLormif Posts: 3,526 ★★★★
    Lainua said:

    Sungj said:

    Lol no

    No for better and fairer system? Bad things happen because good people does nothing to stop it.

    We accept RNG as a fact, while it can be changed. Stupid.
    Except you have not defined a "fairer and better" system. Shoot you have not even defined a fairer or better as to what they mean.
  • LormifLormif Posts: 3,526 ★★★★

    TaZ_4178 said:

    Also I betcha the trolls will love that new Loot Box Legislation... when it passes 🍻

    You mean the Loot Box Bill that MCOC already adheres to? Lol. Mkay.
    There's a new one.
    And the new one still will not apply to anything but the paid crystals.
  • LormifLormif Posts: 3,526 ★★★★
    Lainua said:

    Lainua said:

    This entire game is RNG, it always has been. If you don't like it, don't play it.

    Time to change. Not because it’s always like that it should stay like that.

    And if you can’t understand my idea, you can stay silent.


    "Your idea" lol. You do understand what you're asking, yes? Even minor suggestions don't get heard around here and you're asking to change the very thing that runs this game?

    You probably pulled something you don't like, everyone has. But you have an equal chance to get something great too. I can agree with you if you had asked to make EQ rewards and stuff non-RNG based. But this is absolute bs.
    Equal chance for what? Equal chance to be insulted? Do you even understand that RNG only does great job for the company - making them rich - not for players including you and you try to keep that unfair system?

    And do you even know about RNG history? It was made for casino. I play a game not gamble. I can’t accept that time and effort I put in this game all lead to frustration. Do you see the frustration of players base? Why did it happen? And you try to obey like a sheep.
    Um, no it was not. Please do not make things up. The first device was created by the RAND corp for a book on random numbers, then it went on to code breaking. This was in 1940
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 6,063 ★★★★★

    For that matter, there's a great deal of grey area within it.

    Yes there is but people see what they want to see in it.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 6,063 ★★★★★
    Lormif said:

    TaZ_4178 said:

    Also I betcha the trolls will love that new Loot Box Legislation... when it passes 🍻

    You mean the Loot Box Bill that MCOC already adheres to? Lol. Mkay.
    There's a new one.
    And the new one still will not apply to anything but the paid crystals.
    Maybe. The game has to meet all of the bills criteria in order for it to have to abide by the new legislation.
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Posts: 818 ★★★
    Lainua said:

    RNG can stay random as it is, but at least give us more chances to get SOMETHING.

    Not one and only random choice, but two random choices, and I’m fine with it.

    Baaaaaaaaaaaa.

    Get it? Sheep?

    Anyway, it's cute you're complaining about reworking RNG for this game. It's like asking HEY INSTEAD OF THE FLAMING HOOP TO JUMP THROUGH THERE SHOULD BE MORE CHANCES TO JUMP THROUGH THE BARBED WIRE HOOP OR WE SHOULD CHOOSE BETWEEN THE FLAMING, BARB WIRE, AND DRIED DOG POO HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH.

    Or we could ask HEY CAN I GET CONTENT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE JUMPING THROUGH F'N HOOPS ALREADY?

    That seems a more reasonable ask for them to ignore.

    Baaaaaaaaaaa.
  • LainuaLainua Posts: 670 ★★★
    edited June 3
    Many mobile games apply some sort of RNG, but while some can be described as understandable, in this game, it’s totally OUT OF CONTROL. Why do I say that? Because everything in this game is decided by RNG, so effort plays no role at all.

    Let take an example. In alliance wars we get match matching basing on the same war rating and prestige, so random still plays a role, but smaller and under control. Less random. In some offers, Kabam let us to choose which tier of class catalyst we want to buy. So no random at all. Less RNG has been already applied in this game. What we want is it should be applied more frequently.

    Let’s say in rank up gem, Kabam should let us choose from 2 choices not one.

    Let’s say in awakening gems. Let us choose from 2 choices not one.

    Let’s say in 6* gem. Let us choose from 2 candidates not one.

    It only serve this game, this company and players better.
  • TaZ_4178TaZ_4178 Posts: 285

    TaZ_4178 said:

    Also I betcha the trolls will love that new Loot Box Legislation... when it passes 🍻

    You mean the Loot Box Bill that MCOC already adheres to? Lol. Mkay.
    Lmao... let's just wait and see what happens when the "new" legislation is made into a law
  • RasiloverRasilover Posts: 279 ★★
    Lainua said:

    Here is my case. After Act 5 exploration I was excited to open rank up gem to only get a gem I can’t use. The same happened after I completed 6.1. A gem I can’t use and I don’t think I can use it in near future. With near future I mean half year or so.

    The whole RNG system is bs. You worked your as.s off and spend money to get what? Nothing!!! You collect 10 thousands 5* shards to open a Iron Patriot. 10 thousands 6* to open a Hulkbuster. It can be that forever. We often laugh about it but when it happens everytime, it’s just unacceptable anymore.

    My proposal is Kabam must give us choices. For example you open up a rank up gem you can choose between two random gems. Two choices. Not one as now. Same with 5*. Two choice. If we are unlucky at least we can choice which is less useless.

    You have to rework RNG system Kabam. In most case it’s cruel. Be more human, feel our pain. We are not cowhale who can spend unlimited amounts of money to buy everything.

    Naw thanks
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