I'd like to apologize to this alliance for the broken matchmaking system

DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,514 ★★★★
edited July 2019 in General Discussion


This is a perfect example of the broken matchmaking system. The top alliance is 1/18th of ours. Since the war chat is apparently not working I wanted to apologize for this here. Hopefully someone from their alliance reads this. It is wrong to see this much difference between the 2 alliances in a war.

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  • cx23433cx23433 Member Posts: 465 ★★
    Oof
  • Dose_ResponsiveDose_Responsive Member Posts: 151 ★
    Our alliance is the same. We are regularly fighting alliances many tiers above us until we lose so many and then then we get opponents closer to our level.
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  • DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,514 ★★★★
    We are the larger alliance. We haven't taken war seriously in a couple of seasons. Mostly retired guys who don't want to stress over the outdated rewards in aw. I just find it disheartening for the other alliance to be matched against us. Some of them only have 3*s for defense and attack. Its poor matchmaking like this that kills any motivation to do aw
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  • TwmRTwmR Member Posts: 662 ★★★
    This is an example of matchmaking working perfectly. War rating should be the only thing that determines matchmaking
  • DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,514 ★★★★
    Not really I've seen multiple wars this season where alliances don't even place. The point I was trying to demonstrate though is that war rating alone is a terrible way to match alliances. I suppose it is also possible that they took over a dead alliance which could have also inflated the war rating but last season shows them in bronze
    @Drooped2
  • SiriusBreakSiriusBreak Member, Guardian Posts: 2,156 Guardian
    Drooped2 said:

    Dshu said:

    We are the larger alliance. We haven't taken war seriously in a couple of seasons. Mostly retired guys who don't want to stress over the outdated rewards in aw. I just find it disheartening for the other alliance to be matched against us. Some of them only have 3*s for defense and attack. Its poor matchmaking like this that kills any motivation to do aw

    If they only have 3s their war rating shouldnt be 1700. Theres a flaw there.
    Not necessarily. If they're good at AW against other Alliances that are closer in size/Prestige, 1700s isn't out of the realm of possibilities. Or, it was a larger Alliance at one time that experienced a mass exodus. Now they're rebuilding with smaller accounts. This is QUITE the mismatch indeed no matter how the other guys got their war rating. It's gonna be a slaughter by the looks of it.
  • Panchulon21Panchulon21 Member Posts: 2,605 ★★★★★
    We faced a 2600 alliance who had a 4 star boss and their players reflected it. It’s a burner alliance. They probably bounce back and forth as a tanking strategy.
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,641 ★★★★
    Dshu said:

    Not really I've seen multiple wars this season where alliances don't even place. The point I was trying to demonstrate though is that war rating alone is a terrible way to match alliances. I suppose it is also possible that they took over a dead alliance which could have also inflated the war rating but last season shows them in bronze
    @Drooped2

    Welcome to shell alliance city. Don't feel bad, this is how it works: guys ping between 3 or 4 alliances over several seasons, leaving second or third accounts to pilot. Matter of fact, these guys cycle between 4 alliances, one of my sleeper accounts jumped on between seasons a few cycles ago, watched as all the officers and leader jumped to a similarly named plat alliance 4 wars into season 8.
  • SiriusBreakSiriusBreak Member, Guardian Posts: 2,156 Guardian
    If they were a bit higher in war rating I could see that being a strategy @Panchulon21 . However, they're in the 1700s and they landed Bronze 1 last Season. I don't think this is a Shell Alliance situation. Maybe it WAS a shell Alliance and it's been tossed out to someone else to use for a few Seasons. However, typically don't they swap Season to Season? If they had landed in Gold 1, or Platinum 3+ and were rocking that rating, I would call Shell Alliance all day.
  • DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,514 ★★★★
    I'm leaning towards them getting matched against alliances that had no defense or just tanked on the off season. Unfortunately they landed us on a day we actually had 10 guys place defense since we normally only have a few guys place and people join attack for the loyalty from rewards. We aren't tanking we just no longer care about aw. Unfortunately it is a necessary evil for aq loyalty
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,381 ★★★★★
    Dshu said:

    I'm leaning towards them getting matched against alliances that had no defense or just tanked on the off season. Unfortunately they landed us on a day we actually had 10 guys place defense since we normally only have a few guys place and people join attack for the loyalty from rewards. We aren't tanking we just no longer care about aw. Unfortunately it is a necessary evil for aq loyalty

    So its 1 bg vs 1 bg? If so, that's why you matched. There weren't enough 1 bg allys out there at your ally rating so it worked its way down to who you matched.
  • Markjv81Markjv81 Member Posts: 1,033 ★★★★
    If you aren’t running 3 bg’s there will always be anomalies. The pool is significantly smaller at 1 bg. Match making overall this season seems to have improved.
  • SiriusBreakSiriusBreak Member, Guardian Posts: 2,156 Guardian
    Yeah, the 1 BG aspect does help explain why this happened. It's certainly unfortunate for them.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,646 ★★★★★
    The War Ratings are the same. Unfortunately, there's not much that can be said.
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