Cull Obsidian's Hits No Longer Pause Duration of Thanos's Favor Buffs [MERGED THREADS]

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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,893 ★★★★★

    IDoge said:

    V1PER1987 said:

    I haven’t used Cull for a couple weeks. What’s the issue with him? I feel I’m only getting bits and pieces from your post.

    The main issue is that his thanos favor buffs above 1 charge are not paused.
    That's the only issue.
    It actually isn't. His fury duration doesn't extend based on hits placed while in rout either. The favor duration is definitely the larger of the two imo though
    Doesn't that happen because of the issue with Thanos' favor since they expire earlier than intended?
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    I'd have to go back and actually count it out on some of my old vids as I got and ranked him very early after release but I'd be willing to bet his fury was always the base duration and not extending. The thread posted here actually had supporting videos for it and it was pre update
  • Shewan01Shewan01 Member Posts: 12
    @Kabam Zibiit Please update us! Nothing to know is worse than bad News (for example if you would tell us that the fix will be online with the next patch in 30 days). But without any further Information About the Status and when we can expect a fix it feels very bad as a customer.

    Can you please confirm that Cull Obsidian will work as he worked for a couple of weeks or could it be that he will remain the Status which he have on the current Servers? We Need to know.
  • Hopper99Hopper99 Member Posts: 102
    I spent hundreds of dollars on featured cav crystals, burned up a generic ag and dumped resources to rank 4 and eventually rank 5. I need to know if this is a bug or this was an intentional stealth nerf. Shouldn’t take that long to acknowledge if it was an intentional change or not. Thanks
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,893 ★★★★★
    Ultra8529 said:

    Ultra8529 said:

    No. When have they compensated for a bug on a champion? Is he your only champion to use? I say this as I have a 5/65 Cull. I expect him to be fixed but there won't be compensation.

    Never and probably that is the problem. All bugs should be compensated since players incur real costs to play with champs that do not perform as they should.
    If you don't use Cull, you don't take the risk of incurring costs... weird how that works. Just like if you don't play a bugged quest I.E act 6 champion boss, you won't incur costs fighting a bugged fight. Crazy concept.
    I mean that works for you, if your solution in life after buying a phone/car/other goods and realising it does not work is to keep silent. I prefer to be vocal about getting my fair purchase. If I spent money to obtain a champion, I am gonna make sure I get my money's worth - that champ has to work as it was promised. It is not a solution to just "not use that champion". I bought it precisely to use it.
    And he will. Its a bug. They know it and we know it. Once they figure out the issue, they will tell us the next step which could come in the next patch or as a hotfix.

    I never said to keep silent. Absolutely report the bug. There isnt a magic button to fix these things. But if some how hes costing you units, use a different champ. You wouldn't continue using your car if thw engine was smoking right?
  • Ramin_the_KingRamin_the_King Member Posts: 17
    I tested my Cull 5/65 sig 200, rout drops so quickly and not pauses during the hits and no fury afterwards either! Its so upsetting and Kabam again doing something fishy, they are not commenting anything over 10 days since ppl notified them

    Mcoc Game name: ROMEEN
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    I tested my Cull 5/65 sig 200, rout drops so quickly and not pauses during the hits and no fury afterwards either! Its so upsetting and Kabam again doing something fishy, they are not commenting anything over 10 days since ppl notified them

    Mcoc Game name: ROMEEN

    His rout phase isn't supposed to pause on hits and always ends in the same amount of time. The two mode durations that can be modified are Thanos favor and fury. Thanos favor pauses on hits and fury is supposed to extend based on hits landed while rout is active. The fury comes after rout bit Thanos favor which sounds like you have them confused. Nothing modifies rout duration. Rout is activated by dashing back and holding block its the purple buff that's triggered
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Basically guys it's a bug. We all know this as he worked differently beforehand. He was bugged against havok before the last update and they never acknowledged that but fixed it with the last update. If they say they're looking at it I'm sure they are and it will be fixed eventually
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,893 ★★★★★
    DalBot said:

    What bothers me is people saying "oh just wait" or "it's not a big deal" when the fact is that anyone who has Cull at this point almost assuredly paid money to get him (or at the least had a massive stash of units). This is a game where time matters. If you gimp a champ that could be the difference between won or lost AWs. We have a quest this month where this champ that people paid for would sure be nice against the bosses that evade like crazy.

    What we want is transparency. Being told "we're looking at it" and nothing else means nothing. It's like the dad on the coach saying "yeah honey I'm on it" when asked to do something. At this point we have no idea if they have any clue what the bug is, no clue in a timeframe, no clue on anything but I guess that's just good enough for some people? Many of us spent hundreds or thousands of dollars on something that doesn't work (and hundreds more to rank it up on July 4th), so no, "just sit and wait" isn't an acceptable response.

    What if they don't have a clue what the bug is, they don't have a timeframe or anything additional to add yet..... what could they say other than "we are still looking into it" which they have already said to make the situation acceptable.

    What you spent has no bearing on anything in this situation. It really doesn't. Look i get it, he's an awesome champ and I love using him. I would like him to work just as much as you do. But you spending hundreds of dollars to get him, doesn't mean anything in the case of there being a bug and the speed it gets fixed.

    When there isn't any additional information to say, all we can do is wait for now. It's been 12 days, let them do their jobs.
  • Blue_Eyed_ThingBlue_Eyed_Thing Member Posts: 128

    DalBot said:

    What bothers me is people saying "oh just wait" or "it's not a big deal" when the fact is that anyone who has Cull at this point almost assuredly paid money to get him (or at the least had a massive stash of units). This is a game where time matters. If you gimp a champ that could be the difference between won or lost AWs. We have a quest this month where this champ that people paid for would sure be nice against the bosses that evade like crazy.

    What we want is transparency. Being told "we're looking at it" and nothing else means nothing. It's like the dad on the coach saying "yeah honey I'm on it" when asked to do something. At this point we have no idea if they have any clue what the bug is, no clue in a timeframe, no clue on anything but I guess that's just good enough for some people? Many of us spent hundreds or thousands of dollars on something that doesn't work (and hundreds more to rank it up on July 4th), so no, "just sit and wait" isn't an acceptable response.

    What if they don't have a clue what the bug is, they don't have a timeframe or anything additional to add yet..... what could they say other than "we are still looking into it" which they have already said to make the situation acceptable.

    What you spent has no bearing on anything in this situation. It really doesn't. Look i get it, he's an awesome champ and I love using him. I would like him to work just as much as you do. But you spending hundreds of dollars to get him, doesn't mean anything in the case of there being a bug and the speed it gets fixed.

    When there isn't any additional information to say, all we can do is wait for now. It's been 12 days, let them do their jobs.
    I don't have a race in this horse as they say(wink wink) however I can see why this upsets people. I once bought a cd deck with a cd changer. put it in my car so I would quit losing or scuffing up my disks, it was clearly marked to be put in cars. When I contacted the company(it stoped changing CDs), I was told the reason why it did not work was an issue that they were looking into they asked me to send it to them, they paid the postage. I put the old one back in and forgot about it for the most part. Three or so months later they sent me a letter apologizing for the time along with the fixed CD player and a check for the original purchase amount for my inconvenience. Needless to say, I am a happy customer their products are not the best but customer service is exemplary. when you have a bugged product you should always try to accept a return or in this case, the dreaded rank down tickets along with a sizable compensation package would be in order. No money needed but if you make a screw up send out some digital items(which cost nothing) and champ specific rank down tickets, problem solved. if people are sure they won't get screwed they would spend more.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,893 ★★★★★

    DalBot said:

    What bothers me is people saying "oh just wait" or "it's not a big deal" when the fact is that anyone who has Cull at this point almost assuredly paid money to get him (or at the least had a massive stash of units). This is a game where time matters. If you gimp a champ that could be the difference between won or lost AWs. We have a quest this month where this champ that people paid for would sure be nice against the bosses that evade like crazy.

    What we want is transparency. Being told "we're looking at it" and nothing else means nothing. It's like the dad on the coach saying "yeah honey I'm on it" when asked to do something. At this point we have no idea if they have any clue what the bug is, no clue in a timeframe, no clue on anything but I guess that's just good enough for some people? Many of us spent hundreds or thousands of dollars on something that doesn't work (and hundreds more to rank it up on July 4th), so no, "just sit and wait" isn't an acceptable response.

    What if they don't have a clue what the bug is, they don't have a timeframe or anything additional to add yet..... what could they say other than "we are still looking into it" which they have already said to make the situation acceptable.

    What you spent has no bearing on anything in this situation. It really doesn't. Look i get it, he's an awesome champ and I love using him. I would like him to work just as much as you do. But you spending hundreds of dollars to get him, doesn't mean anything in the case of there being a bug and the speed it gets fixed.

    When there isn't any additional information to say, all we can do is wait for now. It's been 12 days, let them do their jobs.
    I don't have a race in this horse as they say(wink wink) however I can see why this upsets people. I once bought a cd deck with a cd changer. put it in my car so I would quit losing or scuffing up my disks, it was clearly marked to be put in cars. When I contacted the company(it stoped changing CDs), I was told the reason why it did not work was an issue that they were looking into they asked me to send it to them, they paid the postage. I put the old one back in and forgot about it for the most part. Three or so months later they sent me a letter apologizing for the time along with the fixed CD player and a check for the original purchase amount for my inconvenience. Needless to say, I am a happy customer their products are not the best but customer service is exemplary. when you have a bugged product you should always try to accept a return or in this case, the dreaded rank down tickets along with a sizable compensation package would be in order. No money needed but if you make a screw up send out some digital items(which cost nothing) and champ specific rank down tickets, problem solved. if people are sure they won't get screwed they would spend more.
    He will get fixed. No one is getting screwed and there isn't any intention of keeping him the way he is currently. RDT's are not needed as its a bug and not a forever change. Nothing you said would apply in this case.

    As for digital items not "costing anything" that's also completely false and for a different thread at a different time.
  • Blue_Eyed_ThingBlue_Eyed_Thing Member Posts: 128

    DalBot said:

    What bothers me is people saying "oh just wait" or "it's not a big deal" when the fact is that anyone who has Cull at this point almost assuredly paid money to get him (or at the least had a massive stash of units). This is a game where time matters. If you gimp a champ that could be the difference between won or lost AWs. We have a quest this month where this champ that people paid for would sure be nice against the bosses that evade like crazy.

    What we want is transparency. Being told "we're looking at it" and nothing else means nothing. It's like the dad on the coach saying "yeah honey I'm on it" when asked to do something. At this point we have no idea if they have any clue what the bug is, no clue in a timeframe, no clue on anything but I guess that's just good enough for some people? Many of us spent hundreds or thousands of dollars on something that doesn't work (and hundreds more to rank it up on July 4th), so no, "just sit and wait" isn't an acceptable response.

    What if they don't have a clue what the bug is, they don't have a timeframe or anything additional to add yet..... what could they say other than "we are still looking into it" which they have already said to make the situation acceptable.

    What you spent has no bearing on anything in this situation. It really doesn't. Look i get it, he's an awesome champ and I love using him. I would like him to work just as much as you do. But you spending hundreds of dollars to get him, doesn't mean anything in the case of there being a bug and the speed it gets fixed.

    When there isn't any additional information to say, all we can do is wait for now. It's been 12 days, let them do their jobs.
    I don't have a race in this horse as they say(wink wink) however I can see why this upsets people. I once bought a cd deck with a cd changer. put it in my car so I would quit losing or scuffing up my disks, it was clearly marked to be put in cars. When I contacted the company(it stoped changing CDs), I was told the reason why it did not work was an issue that they were looking into they asked me to send it to them, they paid the postage. I put the old one back in and forgot about it for the most part. Three or so months later they sent me a letter apologizing for the time along with the fixed CD player and a check for the original purchase amount for my inconvenience. Needless to say, I am a happy customer their products are not the best but customer service is exemplary. when you have a bugged product you should always try to accept a return or in this case, the dreaded rank down tickets along with a sizable compensation package would be in order. No money needed but if you make a screw up send out some digital items(which cost nothing) and champ specific rank down tickets, problem solved. if people are sure they won't get screwed they would spend more.
    He will get fixed. No one is getting screwed and there isn't any intention of keeping him the way he is currently. RDT's are not needed as its a bug and not a forever change. Nothing you said would apply in this case.

    As for digital items not "costing anything" that's also completely false and for a different thread at a different time.
    Digital items cost them nothing... but if it was changed forever or if this is working as "intended" champ specific rank downs would be a valid step, along with a couple of cav crystals to apologize for the misleading advertisement.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,893 ★★★★★

    DalBot said:

    What bothers me is people saying "oh just wait" or "it's not a big deal" when the fact is that anyone who has Cull at this point almost assuredly paid money to get him (or at the least had a massive stash of units). This is a game where time matters. If you gimp a champ that could be the difference between won or lost AWs. We have a quest this month where this champ that people paid for would sure be nice against the bosses that evade like crazy.

    What we want is transparency. Being told "we're looking at it" and nothing else means nothing. It's like the dad on the coach saying "yeah honey I'm on it" when asked to do something. At this point we have no idea if they have any clue what the bug is, no clue in a timeframe, no clue on anything but I guess that's just good enough for some people? Many of us spent hundreds or thousands of dollars on something that doesn't work (and hundreds more to rank it up on July 4th), so no, "just sit and wait" isn't an acceptable response.

    What if they don't have a clue what the bug is, they don't have a timeframe or anything additional to add yet..... what could they say other than "we are still looking into it" which they have already said to make the situation acceptable.

    What you spent has no bearing on anything in this situation. It really doesn't. Look i get it, he's an awesome champ and I love using him. I would like him to work just as much as you do. But you spending hundreds of dollars to get him, doesn't mean anything in the case of there being a bug and the speed it gets fixed.

    When there isn't any additional information to say, all we can do is wait for now. It's been 12 days, let them do their jobs.
    I don't have a race in this horse as they say(wink wink) however I can see why this upsets people. I once bought a cd deck with a cd changer. put it in my car so I would quit losing or scuffing up my disks, it was clearly marked to be put in cars. When I contacted the company(it stoped changing CDs), I was told the reason why it did not work was an issue that they were looking into they asked me to send it to them, they paid the postage. I put the old one back in and forgot about it for the most part. Three or so months later they sent me a letter apologizing for the time along with the fixed CD player and a check for the original purchase amount for my inconvenience. Needless to say, I am a happy customer their products are not the best but customer service is exemplary. when you have a bugged product you should always try to accept a return or in this case, the dreaded rank down tickets along with a sizable compensation package would be in order. No money needed but if you make a screw up send out some digital items(which cost nothing) and champ specific rank down tickets, problem solved. if people are sure they won't get screwed they would spend more.
    He will get fixed. No one is getting screwed and there isn't any intention of keeping him the way he is currently. RDT's are not needed as its a bug and not a forever change. Nothing you said would apply in this case.

    As for digital items not "costing anything" that's also completely false and for a different thread at a different time.
    Digital items cost them nothing... but if it was changed forever or if this is working as "intended" champ specific rank downs would be a valid step, along with a couple of cav crystals to apologize for the misleading advertisement.
    Create a new thread for that. Not going to discuss it here.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    DalBot said:

    What bothers me is people saying "oh just wait" or "it's not a big deal" when the fact is that anyone who has Cull at this point almost assuredly paid money to get him (or at the least had a massive stash of units). This is a game where time matters. If you gimp a champ that could be the difference between won or lost AWs. We have a quest this month where this champ that people paid for would sure be nice against the bosses that evade like crazy.

    What we want is transparency. Being told "we're looking at it" and nothing else means nothing. It's like the dad on the coach saying "yeah honey I'm on it" when asked to do something. At this point we have no idea if they have any clue what the bug is, no clue in a timeframe, no clue on anything but I guess that's just good enough for some people? Many of us spent hundreds or thousands of dollars on something that doesn't work (and hundreds more to rank it up on July 4th), so no, "just sit and wait" isn't an acceptable response.

    I have a 5/65 200 cull, I'm just saying getting all worked up isn't gonna make it go any faster. They fixed the havok bug and I'm sure they'll fix this one.

    If you dropped that kind of coin to get him I'm sure you have plenty of other champs you can use in the meantime like I do.

    I want him fixed asap too as I really like questing with him but for now all we can do is wait. They have the info they need to work on it
  • digital-SOBdigital-SOB Member Posts: 261 ★★

    We are still looking into this and hope to have a resolution soon. Please keep this thread on topic in the meantime.

    Really appreciate the update, thanks for popping in and letting us know it’s in the works.
  • TartarsaucedTartarsauced Member Posts: 6

    We are still looking into this and hope to have a resolution soon. Please keep this thread on topic in the meantime.

    Thank you for the update. Hope your team is able to resolve this and provide a hot-fix soon before next months patch.
  • Doc_HolidayDoc_Holiday Member Posts: 4
    @DalBot I use him regularly as well and I will disagree with you and @Demonzfyre as the true strike falls off... I have been evaded and autoblocked after having 5-10 charges.... it does effect true strike... which causes major issues in things like war and questing when you bring him to handle evading and autoblock ****.... as well as the AP and other buffs from each charge gained....
  • G2DKG2DK Member Posts: 243
    Any update on this yet? Taking an awful long time to get this sorted.
  • digital-SOBdigital-SOB Member Posts: 261 ★★
    Gkohler said:

    Any update on this yet? Taking an awful long time to get this sorted.

    They just replied yesterday that they are still looking into lol
  • G2DKG2DK Member Posts: 243
    I want to R5 him for variant2. Should I hold off?
  • TartarsaucedTartarsauced Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2019
    Gkohler said:

    I want to R5 him for variant2. Should I hold off?

    Would definitely hold off. I already have him at r4 and sig 200, but I will say I amazingly got lucky and pulled Venom the duck a few weeks ago just after having pulled and ranked up Cull. Now I have to resort to ranking up VTD to r4 and use him for as much of variant 2 as possible before all my revives I farmed last month expire (of course I'm not actually doing this begrudgingly. I've seen how amazing a champ VTD is so I would have ranked him up regardless!).

    Once they do fix him though I think you might actually do just fine keeping him at r4. I was able to cheese through a lot of nodes with him because he still does such insane damage at r4. It does help though bringing him up to a higher sig.
  • Nateish5Nateish5 Member Posts: 2
    Please fix Cull.
    At least respond and let us know what’s going on
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,893 ★★★★★
    Gkohler said:

    I want to R5 him for variant2. Should I hold off?

    He will get fixed. I'd R5 him and did after the 4th of July offers.
  • G2DKG2DK Member Posts: 243

    Gkohler said:

    I want to R5 him for variant2. Should I hold off?

    He will get fixed. I'd R5 him and did after the 4th of July offers.
    Yeah I think I might. An r4 is hard to ramp up in variant2 imo
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,893 ★★★★★
    Gkohler said:

    Gkohler said:

    I want to R5 him for variant2. Should I hold off?

    He will get fixed. I'd R5 him and did after the 4th of July offers.
    Yeah I think I might. An r4 is hard to ramp up in variant2 imo
    Agreed. I tried an R4 and because he takes so much block damage, he wasn't super sustainable. Even R5 for that aspect doesn't get much better but the higher power is much better.
  • ToybobToybob Member Posts: 7
    I’ve just pulled cull from a featured and was over the moon.

    I then watched a prof Hoff video about this now relatively old issue with him that is unaddressed.

    So for me like others here, the issue is, do I rank h8m. I have a full stash of t2a et al and don’t know if I should take the risk and invest in him.

    If he gets fixed, I invest, I’m happy, if he’s permanently nerfed then my excitement was for nought and he sits dead in my roster.

    I would love for this to be addressed for the next update.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,893 ★★★★★
    Toybob said:

    I’ve just pulled cull from a featured and was over the moon.

    I then watched a prof Hoff video about this now relatively old issue with him that is unaddressed.

    So for me like others here, the issue is, do I rank h8m. I have a full stash of t2a et al and don’t know if I should take the risk and invest in him.

    If he gets fixed, I invest, I’m happy, if he’s permanently nerfed then my excitement was for nought and he sits dead in my roster.

    I would love for this to be addressed for the next update.

    Its not a relatively old issue. Its only been 2 weeks and its also not unaddressed. There has been several mod comments in this thread stating they are still looking into the issue. And for the last time, they arent nerfing him.
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