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Re: The New Ascension Seems Like One of the Worst Additions to the Game
It isnt even weird to say. 8*s would have been much better than this in its current form
ahmynuts
Re: The New Ascension Seems Like One of the Worst Additions to the Game
Its kind of weird to say, but I would've rather had 8* than whatever this ascension stuff is. Ik you’re scaring people with the thought of 8* but ascensions seem way less incentivizing. At least with 8* you get the thrill of chasing and opening your fav champ in the crystal. Now you don't get that because ascensions are just a basic upgrade to the champ you already own which btw 2 levels isn’t even equal to 1 rank on a 7*. It would suck to have to re-sig an 8* but at least it would be fun to chase my fav champs again and have a cool new ability like adrenaline and stat focuses.
Beewee
Re: The New Ascension Seems Like One of the Worst Additions to the Game
I spend on average about £20-25 per month across the year including the monthly sigil sub. Maybe a bit more but not much. I feel that plus arena and content grinding allows me not to swim with the big boys per se, but at least feel like I’m skirting round the edges. It means I have a roster that can cope with most if not all content out there (not the skill I hasten to add, just the content), and I’m happy where I’m at.
Once ascension hits that kind of spending won’t touch the sides, so where’s my motivation to spend anything at all? There is none, I’m not getting close to end game rosters and I have no desire to spend that kind of money on the game even if I had it.
Once 9.4 comes and goes so will the monthly sub. I might do a platinum track depending on the champ but that’s it. No cyber spending, no banquet spending. I can accept that it’s back to casual gameplay and I’ll find one thing else to spend my money on.
Re: The Lizard RER extention
OP is saying that if they knew that, they would have waited for the rollover too.
But with the information available pre livestream, OP thought the only way to get ascension materials for Lizard was opening Titans before rollover.
It's a good point tbh
AlayanZ
Re: The New Ascension Seems Like One of the Worst Additions to the Game
exactly, its too expensive, and thats for 1 champion ! for 1.. so if u want to ascend all new champions..
lets do the math.. 2 champs a month. 72k units on average. ($6000), yearly thats $72.000.
what the hell man… what the hell…
Re: The New Ascension Seems Like One of the Worst Additions to the Game
Disgusting greed. That's what it is. Nothing more, nothing less. They expect players to spend hundreds a month on a mobile video game and even then you're still not guaranteed to remain competitive and relevant. Every 6 months they come up with something frustrating and greedy to make their fanbase furious and then they say they realise they missed the mark and promise to fix it. Few months pass, same thing. Money, money, money. Disgusting.
At the same time there is barely any fun content in the game, they think grind until your fingers fall off equals fun. BGs that are somewhat fun, relevant content but will become absolute nightmare with that ascention pay wall nonsense.
Makes you wonder what genius is making these decisions in Kabam.
I play this game for a decade now but I am so fed up with this constant monetisation. Pop ups, deals, pay wall, subscription. Where does it end? Is this game made for Sheiks and lotto winners? Ridiculous.
_wasabi_
Re: The New Ascension Seems Like One of the Worst Additions to the Game
They've chosen an absolutely awful way to handle all of this. I really hope we see significant changes because as of now, new champs just won't be exciting anymore.
Kyusushui
Re: The New Ascension Seems Like One of the Worst Additions to the Game
thank you for posting this, I feel very lied to by Kabam when they said last year "new champions will be ascendable" , and then not wanting to offer us a way to get those materials without gambling thousands of dollars, its ridiculous.. and why the change now? Pav is ascendable, lizard is ascendable, why we cannot ascend Madelyne Pryor and Pixie?
and if many of these champions are designed to work with ascension in mind, by the time we get them to ascend next year, everyone is going to forget about them (like blue marvel per say), because we couldn't ascend them for a year, so we couldn't see the true potential. so it will kill the new characters on release.
lucianxvs
The New Ascension Seems Like One of the Worst Additions to the Game
I LOVE MCOC. I have been playing this game for nearly a decade. I play it daily, I have all the content completed, I am active in all of the competitive modes. I have seen everything this game and community has to offer. The good and the bad. I promise I am qualified and my opinion is not baseless. The only reason I am being so adamant is because I want to see this game do good but lately its just been loss after loss after loss. I don't want one of my favorite games to die. Ok, now to the post.
Pretty much from the start I have been very cautious of the new ascension to say the least. After watching yesterday's stream I can confidently say all of my concerns were valid and if anything, ascension seems even worse than what I initially feared.
The new ascension system has many problems. I'm going to focus on the big points and try to keep this somewhat brief. So here we go:
Issue 1: THE NEW ASCENSION IS NEEDLESSLY COMPLICATED. With the new ascension we are getting 11 new ranks, there has been two different resources introduced required for ascension, the champions that can be ascended are split into three different pools and the acquirement methods differ for all three champion pools. These pools will not be updated but maybe they will add different pools in the future. Oh and other champs might be ascended in other ways like through challenges maybe? Why!? Why make it such a needlessly complicated process.
Ascension should be so much more straightforward. Introduce one resource (like ascension dust) and have that be used for ascension. Let players choose what champions they rank, why add the element of chance into it? The most confusing part is that Kabam is talking about streamlining the game and getting rid of bloat. They are deleting variant content, combining different currencies and changing the mysterium store for example in order to make the game more streamlined. So then why make ascension so needlessly complicated? It literally goes against their own goals.
Issue 2: THE NEW ASCENSION TAKES AWAY AGENCY FROM THE PLAYER. MCOC has always been a gambler's game. Especially when it comes to champion acquisition. Very rarely do we get a guaranteed way to earn a champ we want. However, when it comes to ranking champs, thats where we have always been given more agency. We don't control what champs we pull but we can often choose what champs we rank. The new ascension system throws that away completely and instead says "NO. You're ranking up the champion we TELL you to."
This is because there is no universal rankup method for the new ascension. Instead there are champion specific tokens which can only be earned through chance. You love Mojo? Want to ascend him? Hope you get lucky and don't pull patriot from the ascension pool instead.
It's such a frustrating system. It further takes away control and personalization from accounts in favor of monetization and gambling. Because if you do want to have a good chance of ascending the champs you like, you better be ready to spend some units.
Issue 3 and the most important issue: NEW CHAMPION ASCENSIONS ARE NOT FOR THE POOR. It's that simple. Unless you are whaling out on crystals, don't even think about ascending any of the new champs. Maybe sometime next year, Kabam might give some way for you to ascend them. That's what they've told us. They literally have said either spend money or wait a year to maybe get some way to acquire the ascension materials... That's such an absolute slap to the face.
Why would anyone be excited for new champions if they don't have the power to play them at the highest level? Getting new champs is already hard enough. People horde titans to try and get the new champs to play and now theres this added brick wall that just can't be passed unless you're willing to pay money. It's pure greed and nothing else. Let me reitirate:
THE NEW MOST POWERFUL CHAMPS ARE ONLY FOR THE RICH. Because I promise you the new champs we get will be so much better than the purposefully mid champs of the base ascension pool. The entire point of this new ascension was to shine a light on lesser used champs, but thats a load of bull. Because every new champ is also ascendable, but only for people who are willing to spend the money for it.
There is no justification for this. I am begging everyone to please speak out against ascension. Don't support it. If you are reading this, make a post or add a comment, do anything to tell Kabam that this is a bad idea. I am begging CCP members to tell Kabam to make changes. I am begging Kabam to not go through with it.
I love this game. Please don't kill it.
Kyusushui
Re: The CCP Benefits and Privileges should be review
I commend you for trying to reason with pixie but it would be better to just ignore them. Their whole shtick on the forum is just rage baiting and derailing conversations.
Graves_3
