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cancelled sigil. Unit card done. Monthly splurge never again. I’m sure I’ll feel good about it in the long run. Time to find new avenues of entertainment. I’ll have an extra vacation a year instead. I find it amazing that the game team have not been fired. If I performed this badly at work I’m pretty sure I’d be relieved of my duties.

After sleeping on it, these changes are still terrible, and the post still reads terrible. You want to nerf spider woman’s defensive threat? Let’s take away one of her offensive tools (why not just take away one of her actual defensive threats *cough *cough fumble?)

Additionally, your insinuation that I didn’t use her for her evade counter? Why, I had no idea when I took her up against Mordo, or a spiderwoman mirror matchup that I would need an evade counter. Thank you for telling me why I used a champion on attack, I never would have guessed. And let’s just slide under the rug that if her target matchups have evade on a node in BGs, questing, or war, she is now much worse OFFENSIVELY.

Oh the piece de resistance, your closing statement. We want to avoid the amount of defenders being added to the game. Really. This is your justification for nerfing spiderwoman, offensively btw. The irony in this statement is staggering. You nerf a great duel threat on both sides of the ball, but leave Serpent and Enchantress the way they are. I’m really struggling to find a better word to describe this than BS.

Finally, and this is the kicker for me. This sets an extremely scary precedent for new champs. Because of this, I’m now terrified of ranking up new champs. Cause what if this champ that I pulled out of the Titan, love playing, and is super powerful gets nerfed.

Thank you Kabam i just ranked up Spider Woman to R4. Another big L, but as always Kabam won't really listen.

As mentioned by several people before it would be a good idea to leave ensare untouched in offense. Not that difficult, right? Oh wait…

My guess is that this was mostly a data-driven decision. (I work a lot with data, so I hope this is an insightful perspective and worthy of consideration.) Here's what Kabam said:

"…Spider-Woman has been more of a menace than we wanted for her Defender Champion Attribute being a 3.5 out of 5…"

A lot of players are pointing out that there are far worse defenders in the game, and they're not wrong. As stated in the quoted post, there is Serpent, Bullseye, Onslaught, and mentioned elsewhere Dark Phoenix: these are top-tier nightmare defenders that, if you play competitively, either force you to seek out and rank counters, or you ban them outright.

Spider-Woman is formidable, but she isn't that kind of a threat. I suppose that she belongs to the next level category of defenders which are extremely effective, but that highly skilled players might take on without a specific counter. These are champs like Zola and Arcade and Dust: champs that punish you badly when you make a mistake, but you can still take them down sometimes or at least have a decent showing even if you don't have an ideal counter. I assume that 1. these champs are very frequently banned in BG, and 2. rack up numerous wins when they're not banned, because they're such a pain to face.

Spider-Woman is probably the queen of that category of defender. If you let Zola rack up ESP charges, or if you let Arcade activate his autoblock, you're eating a combo. Spider-Woman is different because if she puts power-stings on you, it's up to you to not throw a special. So players think they can avoid the damage, and sometimes they're right. The problem is their damage is crippled and they're probably going to lose a Battlegrounds match unless they can recover (they usually can't). Savvy players quickly figured out how brutal the fumble/power sting combo is, so Spider-Woman is a very strong candidate for a ban in a way that Onslaught, Serpent, and Bullseye aren't because, as nasty as they are, everyone brings Jack or Bastion, Kushala or America, Sinister or Okoye, etc. And when she's not banned, good luck with that fumble/SP1! I'm assuming her ban and win % in Battlegrounds is crazy high.

Personally, rather than see her nerfed, I would have recommended addressing her defensive dominance by introducing more effective counters. One solid new skill champ that can work around fumble and maybe a reworked champ that is to Spider-Woman what Cull is to Zola (Hawkeye? Karnak?), and I think her win % and ban % drop to a more reasonable level. I like that solution because it gives players something worthy to pursue in the game or maybe makes them happier about a champ they might not want to use otherwise, rather than take away a piece of something that they've already invested in.

(Full disclosure: I have an R4 Spider-Woman and I love her ensnare.)

Lol. Trying not to release too many defenders. Joke of the millennium.

Let's be honest, anybody has died vs her due to ensare debuff, what makes her a an annoying defender is the fumble debuff, I'm agree that she is more than a 3.5 ratting defender, but is not for ensare, how have said in other posts if she is so works as intented in attack just changue her defensive abilities.

The worst part is they're going to continue down this path and not correct their course

This is the shittiest balance update. Spider Woman is a perfectly balanced champion. She is the benchmark champion for you, KABAMMMM, how to create champions.

Just fire all your balancing department. They do not know how the champions work, they do not understand what is good for champion and what is not.

Not Serpent, not Leader, not Onslaught, not Photon, none of the champions which really require balancing are touched. But they decide that Spider Woman is imbalanced? Why, just why??

Why not to remove failing all abilities by Domino which she does on constant basis? Why not change champions who DISABLE MASTERIES ABILITIES, which is absolutely innatural.

But hell no, Spider Woman is imbalanced according to you. Big L for you. You are doing everything to kill the game and stop people supporting it with money.

Waddya know??

Afterall trying their best to retain playerbase and have fixed big sales is much better than pissing all over playerbase repeatedly and slapping em with monthly and biweekly sales.

We all know what Kebem decided to do ☠️

#KillMcocAlready