How Important is Roster Size and Prestige Really? (edited by a mod for clarity)
crystaldsmith
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Quick caveat, this is intended to be a friendly discussion to satisfy my own curiosity. Mostly to gain insight to the opinions of others.
There's always been a large focus on roster size and prestige. From recruiting to general "how good are you" conversations. Skill, however, is the single most important aspect of the game. While that's something you can't easily measure without giving someone a chance, I assume that's why the prestige conversations come up so often. At first, for a while, I really thought it could have been ego driven, which I'm sure for some it very much is. This game tends to make people feel quite good about themselves. Lol
I don't have a really good sense of equating prestige or roster or Alliance size to one another, or even anything else. Honestly, I've never paid much attention or had the hopes of being an end game player. I've mostly been f2p. A whale? Ha. I'm plankton at best. I'm probably, no definitely, very average across the board.
I've been in an alliance that teetered on G1 and P3 with only a 4,700 prestige. Now I'm not much higher and in a G3 having HATED the grind. I have no idea what prestige one SHOULD have on either level.
I never really thought much about those stats. I couldn't even tell you the size of my roster now, but most would probably say it's not very big (that's what she said.)
I know this is all completely subjective, but I really wanted to converse about it. I'm guessing that setting a prestige size requirement is the same logic as asking for an AA degree to score an interview. You're hoping the basics of gameplay, skill, and knowledge are there.
I would love to hear from you with your opinions on it all, and your own experiences.
There's always been a large focus on roster size and prestige. From recruiting to general "how good are you" conversations. Skill, however, is the single most important aspect of the game. While that's something you can't easily measure without giving someone a chance, I assume that's why the prestige conversations come up so often. At first, for a while, I really thought it could have been ego driven, which I'm sure for some it very much is. This game tends to make people feel quite good about themselves. Lol
I don't have a really good sense of equating prestige or roster or Alliance size to one another, or even anything else. Honestly, I've never paid much attention or had the hopes of being an end game player. I've mostly been f2p. A whale? Ha. I'm plankton at best. I'm probably, no definitely, very average across the board.
I've been in an alliance that teetered on G1 and P3 with only a 4,700 prestige. Now I'm not much higher and in a G3 having HATED the grind. I have no idea what prestige one SHOULD have on either level.
I never really thought much about those stats. I couldn't even tell you the size of my roster now, but most would probably say it's not very big (that's what she said.)
I know this is all completely subjective, but I really wanted to converse about it. I'm guessing that setting a prestige size requirement is the same logic as asking for an AA degree to score an interview. You're hoping the basics of gameplay, skill, and knowledge are there.
I would love to hear from you with your opinions on it all, and your own experiences.
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My alliance doesn't rank champs for prestige while some players or alliances require that, our alliance ranks champs according to AW defense diversity mostly, then we focus on AQ. This last AQ we finished just shy of 140M points and ranked 715.
My advice, don't rank for prestige only, its a never ending tail chasing race, esp with all these new champs being released unless you looking to join an alliance that's prestige AQ focused. I rank champs that I like to use, can complete end game content and are useful in AQ/AW..
but, don't worry about the prestige game. worry about the skill game, which if you played in a p3 alliance at 4500 you're doing ok then skill wise i'd say. unless you're pushing for at least top 500, then you don't really need to worry about the prestige play. luckily, most of the useful champs in this game have adequate prestige.
I've never really worried too much about roster size or Prestige. I'm really just concerned about having the champs that I need to do the job at hand.
I'll be honest it started to become a bit of a struggle in the Platinum range and it was completely doable but it just wasn't a grind that I wanted. I just don't see myself being committed enough to be in one of the top 500 at all. No way I'd be good enough anyway. Lol
You've really help shed some perspective though on why Prestige conversations come up as much as they do. Outside of AQ rewards I hadn't thought about it in terms of War matchmaking. I'd only thought about it in war from the context of having Defenders.
I think having Prestige shown on someone's profile is kind of a cool idea. Keeps people honest
The guy could not fight. It. Was. Bad!!!
Then we had some dude with a small profile with a low prestige that would murder content. This guy was a straight-up assassin.
Whts your ally and currently any openings?
I can do 5x5 comfortably... current prestige 6k
Alliances ask for a high prestige for AQ. The higher prestige you have the better. A lot of high tier alliances, talking about 16mil rating and up are all about prestige for that reason.
Sorry @Rajuteda we are currently filled at the moment..
Completely agree. We have a guy who has a 220k rating and just wrecks AW bosses and destroys everything. Literally barely ever gets touched. Then we have a 400k guy who does to sentinels on map 5 day 1.......
I enjoy playing story mode, event quests, and AW/AQ more than I’ve ever cared for arena. So it’s no big deal for me to sell a r4 3* champ, or even a r4 4* champ, trying to pull a better champion that I might actually use from a higher teir. Or dupe one of my better ones.
This does affect prestige, but it has never, not once, had a negative impact on any aspect of my gameplay. Again, largely due to arena. Once when low teir teams were mandatory for XMen event which I had no qualms avoiding.
Even when I managed to keep my profile under 200k and looked into recruiting alliances with “ONLY 200k+ need apply” stamped on their page- was never a problem. Actually think it allowed me to advance more quickly. With higher teir champs, can run quests at higher levels, honing mah skills.
It pays off if your focus is arena. Use the multiplier tokens, reuse your top teams, and you’ll be scoring in the millions before you know it. Both good aspects to look at, most go with prestige and never sell champs period. I like having more 4 & 5* champs over 3 & 4 any day, but that’s me.
Any champions prestigue rating is greatly increased by awakening their signature skill.
While many of those same champs are still very effective in story mode, AW/AQ (without being awakened) they are much less effective in arena because of the point system and multipliers. Arena is a good way to pick what champs you really want to use and awaken them to get more, instead of relying on random crystal spins or selling any of your champs.
It takes ALOT of grinding to rank among top contenders fighting for featured champs. Sometimes 2million, sometimes 20million.. depends on the champ really. Leaves little time to get through story events and participate in Alliance, which has always been the way to go for me, so I only grind when I really need to, hit it hard.
What the alliance name/tag anyway?
My opinion:
As some have said if your team is pushing for top 500 then prestige is important. If not then ranking for war and personal content is extremely important. For example, starlord has garbage prestige but is still a KILLER. Duck has great prestige and is an ok champ (some will say garbage).
As some have said, we had a guy with a 7900 prestige, he was a great player. Sold
His account in the middle of war, the dude who took over was complete garbage. Didn’t even want to download line. He lost his trinity on day 4 of quest after 4 fights. Roster size doesn’t matter and neither does prestige if you can’t hold your own.
On the other side we had a guy really low prestige (couldnt dupe or pull any great champs) he was a killer with what he had.
Rank for personal content first, then war then quest. With personal content comes everything else because you’ll get more shards to pull more champs and be in a higher alliance.
This sums it up. Account size is meaningless, prestige determines AQ rewards. Skill is most important, prestige is somewhat important, account size is Cyclops important.
Well said!