How can you let people keep this? It gives players wity already sizeable rosters and tons of optiona an even greater advantage over those of us who already have to work harder to get these things completed. Anyone who was able to plow through this difficult content that fast doesnt need the new champs ranked up as they would clearly already have a roster of great champs that enabled them to get through this quest so quickly. So again you just simply turn a blind eye to the biggest and greatest accounts and allow the gap between the top alliances and the rest of us to grow greater and greater.
This is garbage I haven’t even thought about doing the event yet because I’ve been waiting to the strategies to come out but I would have definitely bum rushed it if I had know doing so would provide me with 4 r3tor4 gems instead of just 1 and then 3 for the garbage 2015 champs. This decision to not reverse rewards is garbage we need continuity in content like this. From my standpoint I believe kabam needs to adjust the rewards for everyone who completes this content
It's time to face the music on this one, Kabam. You messed up. You admit you messed up. And that's great. But you didn't fix the problem in a way that is fair for everyone.
To allow those that rushed through it to keep their newer than 2015 champs at rank 4 from the bugged gems, but to not allow those of us still working on it that same opportunity shows a blatant disregard for those who don't spend (or are that skilled, as I'm sure it's possible players are that good) and severely unbalances everything about The Contest you have built over the last four years.
You can't look at a rank 4 Domino and a rank 4 Storm as being remotely close as even. Not all rank 4 5* champions are equal.
The way I see it, you have three options:
1. Reverse those unfair rankups, no further steps needed (because bug exploitation is a violation of the ToS and can lead to bans, right?)
2. Allow the gems to be used on any champion.
3. Release all of the 2015 champions that do not have 5* variants, and give summoners class 5* Crystal's based on the gems they pull. (I.E. pulling a skill 3 -> 4 gem will also give you a 5* crystal with Classic Daredevil, Black Widow, and any other unreleased skill champion. Mystic would include Doctor Strange even though you gave him a 5* variant to buy in special crystals)
It's important to note that the 5* champions that would be released are NOT done behind a paywall like Electro, Abomination, and Doctor Strange were. They should be additions to the 5* basic and featured crystals. And to be blunt for even one second don't try to bring up how THAT would unbalance The Contest because let's be real: champions like Medusa and Symbiote Supreme are much more powerful than champions like Thor and Scarlet Witch ever were post 12.0.
Be smart about this Kabam. You've angered a lot of players and you need to make this right for everyone, not just people who spend real world money to finish your content as fast as possible.
I must agree with those that not reversing the use of the exploit is a huge mistake. The pullers knew they were meant to be used on 2015 champs only. The fact they choose to rank up a non-2015 was a blatant exploit of an issue.
It isn’t like the exploit for completing a path of a map and finding out that the rewards were given again. So, you keep running the path over and over. The puller knew what the gems were intended for.
They should not be banned, but reversal of the rank and a return of all gold and iso used is warranted to preserve the balance of the game.
Calling It an exploit doesn't account for people that just played the Quest and used their Items. Not everyone was aware it was intended for 2015 Champs alone. Exploiting something implies knowledge that it's not intended. It's just a tricky situation is all. I get that some people feel it's unfair, but it's equally unfair to try and Derank people who had no knowledge and just used the Items. Nor do I think it would be a feasible solution. It was something that was caught fairly quickly and fixed, so we're not talking a large number of people who used them. I don't see how it's an issue, considering the people capable of earning those shouldn't be short of the Resources to R4 in general. That just leaves people wanting the same freedom, but that's equally not feasible because it would be asking them to reinstate a bug after it's fixed. It's just not an easy situation to address.
WOW!!!!
it is clearly an exploit.
it was clearly stated by kabam the they are rank up gems for 2015 champs only.
those that used them incorrectly knew exactly what they were doing.
they would have tried it to see if it worked on someone and then told all their mates when it did.
IT WAS CLEARLY AN EXPLOIT.
they need to de-rank the champs that were incorrectly ranked.
THESE PEOPLE BROKE THE TOS AND EXPOITED A BUG.
they knew the gem was supposed to be 2015 only but used it on someone else anyway
You made the right call kabam. These players didn’t complete the material knowing they could use the gems on anything other than 2015 champs. You guys just messed up on your end by not properly setting the correct rank up gems in the first place. Just set to the correct gems and consider it done. Anyone who rushed through the material deserves the early bird special.
Calling It an exploit doesn't account for people that just played the Quest and used their Items. Not everyone was aware it was intended for 2015 Champs alone. Exploiting something implies knowledge that it's not intended. It's just a tricky situation is all. I get that some people feel it's unfair, but it's equally unfair to try and Derank people who had no knowledge and just used the Items. Nor do I think it would be a feasible solution. It was something that was caught fairly quickly and fixed, so we're not talking a large number of people who used them. I don't see how it's an issue, considering the people capable of earning those shouldn't be short of the Resources to R4 in general. That just leaves people wanting the same freedom, but that's equally not feasible because it would be asking them to reinstate a bug after it's fixed. It's just not an easy situation to address.
So is every other time kabam banned people for something like this wrong to u as well?
Let's not forget what happens when regular players get extra rewards from an eq. Let's not forget how strict kabam was about that. Let's not forget how difficult it would be to implement the corrections listed here. Let's not forget that resources used to rank champs were taken back, even if those resources didn't come thru the use of the exploit. Let's not forget the bans that happened. Let's not forget kabam obv has the power to easily fix the current situation and just refuses to do so
Calling It an exploit doesn't account for people that just played the Quest and used their Items. Not everyone was aware it was intended for 2015 Champs alone. Exploiting something implies knowledge that it's not intended. It's just a tricky situation is all. I get that some people feel it's unfair, but it's equally unfair to try and Derank people who had no knowledge and just used the Items. Nor do I think it would be a feasible solution. It was something that was caught fairly quickly and fixed, so we're not talking a large number of people who used them. I don't see how it's an issue, considering the people capable of earning those shouldn't be short of the Resources to R4 in general. That just leaves people wanting the same freedom, but that's equally not feasible because it would be asking them to reinstate a bug after it's fixed. It's just not an easy situation to address.
Another example of how another person who is nowhere near..
“End game” knows nothing
If u read my post in first page from an end game player to an end game player.
the people who 100% this asap and ranked up non 2015 champions to rank up whatever champions they want.
Obvioisly this kind of content there is alot of resources involed to 100%
Again ur nowhere near where me or the other players around the top of master/platinum level to know that is a huge advantage in terms or resources and who/what to rank up.
Theres big difference being able to rank up a mutant champ from 2015 to a “any” mutant champ like iceman,domino,omega, etc.
The game stated the gems are suppose to be “2015” rank up gems, before the event even started so thats what they was suppose to be!!!
Anyways here a respond from dork lessons
And as he stated. If the rank ups suppose to be “2015” rank up gems then its suppose to be “2015” rank up gems.
Again those who completed and then kabam chose to let them keep them are totally unfair.
When the Venom quest came out, people spent money to exploit a glitch to get tons of 5* shards.
There was another quest last year that kept giving t2a fragments and people spent money to keep completing to get an edge.
Both of those exploits got rolled back.
And yet this time, essentially 12 t2a are mistakenly given out to players who have spent to complete Back Issue 1 and not even a consideration of rolling back rank ups? I know Kabam has the technology to do so.
Very unfair to allow the people that used the rank up gems on new champs keep the rank ups and not allow people that complete it later. Need consistency, either rank down the champs that were done that weren't supposed to be or allow everyone to use them in the same manner.
Lol such a child like mentality, oh they got it so I want it too. It’s life, some people get better **** then others and better deals, it happens, but you can’t expect consistency for everyone it just doesn’t happen. If I bought a car today for $20000 and tomorrow you buy the same car on sale for $15000 am I gonna get my money back? No! Deal with it! Oh mommy that boy got his gem to work, I want mine to work too. Lol if you are a kid, then lesson 1 of life has just started..if not then time to grow up
U made a new account to make write this
Response??
Before the event even started all the rewards was stated for the event.
Obviously the people who 100% first are gona benefit it by baving these resources first and obvioisly they wanted to 100% and get the rewards that was posted by kabam before the event started.
Nowhere did it say
It was not gonna be a 2015 rank up gem.
It stated it would be 2015 rank up gems and not a rank up gem for any champion in fine print before the event started.
Top players are the ones who have finished this already.
Coincidentally, top players also know exactly what the rewards are and fully understand how those rewards work before they enter a quest. Hell, they already know how to exploit the game in several other ways and are allowed to do so daily.
Pretending like ignorance played any role in this is asinine. They simply took a chance. It was worth the VERY SMALL risk even if it was rolled back. Either a champ is deranked or they get lucky. You think that potentially losing one ranked champ matters when you already have 5 r5?
The message is clear: 99.9% of the player base doesn't matter. And this isn't even a spending thing. Ppl might have dropped $200 to clear it. Their accounts are monsters, mostly because they exploit the game every step of the way. Yeah, they're really good at the game too, but so are tons of others who just chose to not cheat.
Top players are the ones who have finished this already.
Coincidentally, top players also know exactly what the rewards are and fully understand how those rewards work before they enter a quest. Hell, they already know how to exploit the game in several other ways and are allowed to do so daily.
Pretending like ignorance played any role in this is asinine. They simply took a chance. It was worth the VERY SMALL risk even if it was rolled back. Either a champ is deranked or they get lucky. You think that potentially losing one ranked champ matters when you already have 5 r5?
The message is clear: 99.9% of the player base doesn't matter. And this isn't even a spending thing. Ppl might have dropped $200 to clear it. Their accounts are monsters, mostly because they exploit the game every step of the way. Yeah, they're really good at the game too, but so are tons of others who just chose to not cheat.
This isn’t a spending thing. This isn’t protecting the whales.
I know whales that have dropped hundreds of thousands of dollars on this game over 3+ years that didn’t rush to 100% this and take advantage of the exploit because they were convinced kabam would either roll it back or ban them.
This is just scum players that exploit every aspect of the game in their quest for e-glory continuing to be scum, and kabam allowing them to get away with it.
that’s not fair!! U guys (kabam) always punishes players for exploiting bugs and now u guys just slide this one! Heck no!! We are the people and we all are the same!! So that means everything should be the same for everybody!! So be fair and update those crystals for everybody!! I hope u don’t want to get more people angry like last time u guys nerf champs and start getting bad game rating and all that **** (u know what im taking about) so I suggested to give the same rewards to everybody!!
I agree not the fault of pluaers who finished it early and were surprised to find that gen worked on all champs ..
But it still should be reversed ... Knowingly or unknowingly someone cannot be given advantage over others in the game .. whatever tier they are in ... That's the definition of the word "fair"...
Kabam said it was going to be 2015 champs only so ppl who used it on other champs shouldn't be surprised that their rank ups r gonna be reversed ..
Be fair to ur user base kabam ... Stuff like this open u up for lawsuits even ..
So some guys got to rank their Domino's and Emma's and you have to rank Storm or Cyclops?
GET OVER IT. They get resources much faster than you, so those rank-ups were inevitable.
Im an end-game player and I dont care about this. I dont care about that quest all that much either
like always i think we are already used to such bs it's an obvious unfair for this community revert their rank ups it should be easy but why not ? and you are still taking about making this game enjoyable
I don’t find fault with the players who used these gems, just with Kabam for taking the laziest course of action to address the situation. The only suitable options are:
1. Make the ‘bug’ permanent for all players
2. Or reverse the rank ups.
Another example of Kabam making the wrong decisions that ultimately piss off the player community.
This will make me reconsider Black Friday and Cyber Monday offers.
Totally disagree with this decision. Only the best end game players will have gone through the quest quickly enough to exploit this glitch. You are showing a complete lack of respect to the rest of the community here. There were no prizes advertised for finishing quickly yet this is a huge prize.
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To allow those that rushed through it to keep their newer than 2015 champs at rank 4 from the bugged gems, but to not allow those of us still working on it that same opportunity shows a blatant disregard for those who don't spend (or are that skilled, as I'm sure it's possible players are that good) and severely unbalances everything about The Contest you have built over the last four years.
You can't look at a rank 4 Domino and a rank 4 Storm as being remotely close as even. Not all rank 4 5* champions are equal.
The way I see it, you have three options:
1. Reverse those unfair rankups, no further steps needed (because bug exploitation is a violation of the ToS and can lead to bans, right?)
2. Allow the gems to be used on any champion.
3. Release all of the 2015 champions that do not have 5* variants, and give summoners class 5* Crystal's based on the gems they pull. (I.E. pulling a skill 3 -> 4 gem will also give you a 5* crystal with Classic Daredevil, Black Widow, and any other unreleased skill champion. Mystic would include Doctor Strange even though you gave him a 5* variant to buy in special crystals)
It's important to note that the 5* champions that would be released are NOT done behind a paywall like Electro, Abomination, and Doctor Strange were. They should be additions to the 5* basic and featured crystals. And to be blunt for even one second don't try to bring up how THAT would unbalance The Contest because let's be real: champions like Medusa and Symbiote Supreme are much more powerful than champions like Thor and Scarlet Witch ever were post 12.0.
Be smart about this Kabam. You've angered a lot of players and you need to make this right for everyone, not just people who spend real world money to finish your content as fast as possible.
It isn’t like the exploit for completing a path of a map and finding out that the rewards were given again. So, you keep running the path over and over. The puller knew what the gems were intended for.
They should not be banned, but reversal of the rank and a return of all gold and iso used is warranted to preserve the balance of the game.
WOW!!!!
it is clearly an exploit.
it was clearly stated by kabam the they are rank up gems for 2015 champs only.
those that used them incorrectly knew exactly what they were doing.
they would have tried it to see if it worked on someone and then told all their mates when it did.
IT WAS CLEARLY AN EXPLOIT.
they need to de-rank the champs that were incorrectly ranked.
THESE PEOPLE BROKE THE TOS AND EXPOITED A BUG.
they knew the gem was supposed to be 2015 only but used it on someone else anyway
So is every other time kabam banned people for something like this wrong to u as well?
Another example of how another person who is nowhere near..
“End game” knows nothing
If u read my post in first page from an end game player to an end game player.
the people who 100% this asap and ranked up non 2015 champions to rank up whatever champions they want.
Obvioisly this kind of content there is alot of resources involed to 100%
Again ur nowhere near where me or the other players around the top of master/platinum level to know that is a huge advantage in terms or resources and who/what to rank up.
Theres big difference being able to rank up a mutant champ from 2015 to a “any” mutant champ like iceman,domino,omega, etc.
The game stated the gems are suppose to be “2015” rank up gems, before the event even started so thats what they was suppose to be!!!
Anyways here a respond from dork lessons
And as he stated. If the rank ups suppose to be “2015” rank up gems then its suppose to be “2015” rank up gems.
Again those who completed and then kabam chose to let them keep them are totally unfair.
Dork daves vid
Why would i something thats restricted to 2015” “only” rank up gem while others had the luxury to rank up “any” champion ???
Let us have the same or reverse it.
There was another quest last year that kept giving t2a fragments and people spent money to keep completing to get an edge.
Both of those exploits got rolled back.
And yet this time, essentially 12 t2a are mistakenly given out to players who have spent to complete Back Issue 1 and not even a consideration of rolling back rank ups? I know Kabam has the technology to do so.
Top players are the ones who have finished this already.
Coincidentally, top players also know exactly what the rewards are and fully understand how those rewards work before they enter a quest. Hell, they already know how to exploit the game in several other ways and are allowed to do so daily.
Pretending like ignorance played any role in this is asinine. They simply took a chance. It was worth the VERY SMALL risk even if it was rolled back. Either a champ is deranked or they get lucky. You think that potentially losing one ranked champ matters when you already have 5 r5?
The message is clear: 99.9% of the player base doesn't matter. And this isn't even a spending thing. Ppl might have dropped $200 to clear it. Their accounts are monsters, mostly because they exploit the game every step of the way. Yeah, they're really good at the game too, but so are tons of others who just chose to not cheat.
This isn’t a spending thing. This isn’t protecting the whales.
I know whales that have dropped hundreds of thousands of dollars on this game over 3+ years that didn’t rush to 100% this and take advantage of the exploit because they were convinced kabam would either roll it back or ban them.
This is just scum players that exploit every aspect of the game in their quest for e-glory continuing to be scum, and kabam allowing them to get away with it.
I agree not the fault of pluaers who finished it early and were surprised to find that gen worked on all champs ..
But it still should be reversed ... Knowingly or unknowingly someone cannot be given advantage over others in the game .. whatever tier they are in ... That's the definition of the word "fair"...
Kabam said it was going to be 2015 champs only so ppl who used it on other champs shouldn't be surprised that their rank ups r gonna be reversed ..
Be fair to ur user base kabam ... Stuff like this open u up for lawsuits even ..
GET OVER IT. They get resources much faster than you, so those rank-ups were inevitable.
Im an end-game player and I dont care about this. I dont care about that quest all that much either
1. Make the ‘bug’ permanent for all players
2. Or reverse the rank ups.
Another example of Kabam making the wrong decisions that ultimately piss off the player community.
This will make me reconsider Black Friday and Cyber Monday offers.
Great job on doing exactly what you should NOT have done.
Cheers. Again.