Calling It an exploit doesn't account for people that just played the Quest and used their Items. Not everyone was aware it was intended for 2015 Champs alone. Exploiting something implies knowledge that it's not intended. It's just a tricky situation is all. I get that some people feel it's unfair, but it's equally unfair to try and Derank people who had no knowledge and just used the Items. Nor do I think it would be a feasible solution. It was something that was caught fairly quickly and fixed, so we're not talking a large number of people who used them. I don't see how it's an issue, considering the people capable of earning those shouldn't be short of the Resources to R4 in general. That just leaves people wanting the same freedom, but that's equally not feasible because it would be asking them to reinstate a bug after it's fixed. It's just not an easy situation to address.
So is every other time kabam banned people for something like this wrong to u as well?
Let's not forget what happens when regular players get extra rewards from an eq. Let's not forget how strict kabam was about that. Let's not forget how difficult it would be to implement the corrections listed here. Let's not forget that resources used to rank champs were taken back, even if those resources didn't come thru the use of the exploit. Let's not forget the bans that happened. Let's not forget kabam obv has the power to easily fix the current situation and just refuses to do so
Calling It an exploit doesn't account for people that just played the Quest and used their Items. Not everyone was aware it was intended for 2015 Champs alone. Exploiting something implies knowledge that it's not intended. It's just a tricky situation is all. I get that some people feel it's unfair, but it's equally unfair to try and Derank people who had no knowledge and just used the Items. Nor do I think it would be a feasible solution. It was something that was caught fairly quickly and fixed, so we're not talking a large number of people who used them. I don't see how it's an issue, considering the people capable of earning those shouldn't be short of the Resources to R4 in general. That just leaves people wanting the same freedom, but that's equally not feasible because it would be asking them to reinstate a bug after it's fixed. It's just not an easy situation to address.
Another example of how another person who is nowhere near..
“End game” knows nothing
If u read my post in first page from an end game player to an end game player.
the people who 100% this asap and ranked up non 2015 champions to rank up whatever champions they want.
Obvioisly this kind of content there is alot of resources involed to 100%
Again ur nowhere near where me or the other players around the top of master/platinum level to know that is a huge advantage in terms or resources and who/what to rank up.
Theres big difference being able to rank up a mutant champ from 2015 to a “any” mutant champ like iceman,domino,omega, etc.
The game stated the gems are suppose to be “2015” rank up gems, before the event even started so thats what they was suppose to be!!!
Anyways here a respond from dork lessons
And as he stated. If the rank ups suppose to be “2015” rank up gems then its suppose to be “2015” rank up gems.
Again those who completed and then kabam chose to let them keep them are totally unfair.
When the Venom quest came out, people spent money to exploit a glitch to get tons of 5* shards.
There was another quest last year that kept giving t2a fragments and people spent money to keep completing to get an edge.
Both of those exploits got rolled back.
And yet this time, essentially 12 t2a are mistakenly given out to players who have spent to complete Back Issue 1 and not even a consideration of rolling back rank ups? I know Kabam has the technology to do so.
Very unfair to allow the people that used the rank up gems on new champs keep the rank ups and not allow people that complete it later. Need consistency, either rank down the champs that were done that weren't supposed to be or allow everyone to use them in the same manner.
Lol such a child like mentality, oh they got it so I want it too. It’s life, some people get better **** then others and better deals, it happens, but you can’t expect consistency for everyone it just doesn’t happen. If I bought a car today for $20000 and tomorrow you buy the same car on sale for $15000 am I gonna get my money back? No! Deal with it! Oh mommy that boy got his gem to work, I want mine to work too. Lol if you are a kid, then lesson 1 of life has just started..if not then time to grow up
U made a new account to make write this
Response??
Before the event even started all the rewards was stated for the event.
Obviously the people who 100% first are gona benefit it by baving these resources first and obvioisly they wanted to 100% and get the rewards that was posted by kabam before the event started.
Nowhere did it say
It was not gonna be a 2015 rank up gem.
It stated it would be 2015 rank up gems and not a rank up gem for any champion in fine print before the event started.
Top players are the ones who have finished this already.
Coincidentally, top players also know exactly what the rewards are and fully understand how those rewards work before they enter a quest. Hell, they already know how to exploit the game in several other ways and are allowed to do so daily.
Pretending like ignorance played any role in this is asinine. They simply took a chance. It was worth the VERY SMALL risk even if it was rolled back. Either a champ is deranked or they get lucky. You think that potentially losing one ranked champ matters when you already have 5 r5?
The message is clear: 99.9% of the player base doesn't matter. And this isn't even a spending thing. Ppl might have dropped $200 to clear it. Their accounts are monsters, mostly because they exploit the game every step of the way. Yeah, they're really good at the game too, but so are tons of others who just chose to not cheat.
Top players are the ones who have finished this already.
Coincidentally, top players also know exactly what the rewards are and fully understand how those rewards work before they enter a quest. Hell, they already know how to exploit the game in several other ways and are allowed to do so daily.
Pretending like ignorance played any role in this is asinine. They simply took a chance. It was worth the VERY SMALL risk even if it was rolled back. Either a champ is deranked or they get lucky. You think that potentially losing one ranked champ matters when you already have 5 r5?
The message is clear: 99.9% of the player base doesn't matter. And this isn't even a spending thing. Ppl might have dropped $200 to clear it. Their accounts are monsters, mostly because they exploit the game every step of the way. Yeah, they're really good at the game too, but so are tons of others who just chose to not cheat.
This isn’t a spending thing. This isn’t protecting the whales.
I know whales that have dropped hundreds of thousands of dollars on this game over 3+ years that didn’t rush to 100% this and take advantage of the exploit because they were convinced kabam would either roll it back or ban them.
This is just scum players that exploit every aspect of the game in their quest for e-glory continuing to be scum, and kabam allowing them to get away with it.
that’s not fair!! U guys (kabam) always punishes players for exploiting bugs and now u guys just slide this one! Heck no!! We are the people and we all are the same!! So that means everything should be the same for everybody!! So be fair and update those crystals for everybody!! I hope u don’t want to get more people angry like last time u guys nerf champs and start getting bad game rating and all that **** (u know what im taking about) so I suggested to give the same rewards to everybody!!
I agree not the fault of pluaers who finished it early and were surprised to find that gen worked on all champs ..
But it still should be reversed ... Knowingly or unknowingly someone cannot be given advantage over others in the game .. whatever tier they are in ... That's the definition of the word "fair"...
Kabam said it was going to be 2015 champs only so ppl who used it on other champs shouldn't be surprised that their rank ups r gonna be reversed ..
Be fair to ur user base kabam ... Stuff like this open u up for lawsuits even ..
So some guys got to rank their Domino's and Emma's and you have to rank Storm or Cyclops?
GET OVER IT. They get resources much faster than you, so those rank-ups were inevitable.
Im an end-game player and I dont care about this. I dont care about that quest all that much either
like always i think we are already used to such bs it's an obvious unfair for this community revert their rank ups it should be easy but why not ? and you are still taking about making this game enjoyable
I don’t find fault with the players who used these gems, just with Kabam for taking the laziest course of action to address the situation. The only suitable options are:
1. Make the ‘bug’ permanent for all players
2. Or reverse the rank ups.
Another example of Kabam making the wrong decisions that ultimately piss off the player community.
This will make me reconsider Black Friday and Cyber Monday offers.
Totally disagree with this decision. Only the best end game players will have gone through the quest quickly enough to exploit this glitch. You are showing a complete lack of respect to the rest of the community here. There were no prizes advertised for finishing quickly yet this is a huge prize.
I have seen so many discriminative decisions made by kabam over these 3 years. But this one tops all of them...
BTW, I am an end game player, I have couple of worthy 5* r4-r5 and 6* and also 4,5k units at my disposal. But I was on a business trip and decided to wait for weekend to complete. If I knew this was going to happen, I would rearrange my schedule, probably take day off and definitely go for those gems.
This is probably gonna be the most disrespectful decision ever made in the mobile gaming history.
You should review this decision. Cause you're simply giving some players a full labyrinth of legends rewards(both completion & %100 exploration), and giving the rest of players nothing but rank up tickets for some dusty champs.
@GroundedWisdom how is it “equally unfair” to derank champs that were illegitimately ranked up? It was explicitly stated that they were for 2015 champs only. Ranking them down and allowing the players to use them on appropriate and intended champs is the opposite of unfair. They weren’t supposed to be able to do it, so now they can’t. Not unfair. Did you benefit from the exploit?
I agree not the fault of pluaers who finished it early and were surprised to find that gen worked on all champs ..
But it still should be reversed ... Knowingly or unknowingly someone cannot be given advantage over others in the game .. whatever tier they are in ... That's the definition of the word "fair"...
Kabam said it was going to be 2015 champs only so ppl who used it on other champs shouldn't be surprised that their rank ups r gonna be reversed ..
Be fair to ur user base kabam ... Stuff like this open u up for lawsuits even ..
Totally agree with this
People just be accusing others of exploiting their way through the game lol
Yes it should be reversed but accusing others...meh
When Kabam changed the gem back to how it was to intended they made a huge mistake. Why do they continue to make these poorly thought out decisions that affect every end game player in the battle realm? Once again I’m not surprised that Kabam is doing this and screwing over ample amount of summoners. Just annoyed now that I didn’t 100% chapter 1 before they changed the rewards.
Echoing others thoughts... this is a poor decision and should be reversed. This encourages players to abuse bugs they find ASAP and goes against Kabam precedent.
I think rather than reversing their rank-ups they should just change the gems to normal 3-4 gems... That way those who finished fast won't feel cheated nor those who waited.
Please Kabam reverse this decision. It is really sad to see other people get preferential treatment. Please take it seriously. Your legacy of mistakes is widely documented. Start a new legacy of doing things right.
So some guys got to rank their Domino's and Emma's and you have to rank Storm or Cyclops?
GET OVER IT. They get resources much faster than you, so those rank-ups were inevitable.
Im an end-game player and I dont care about this. I dont care about that quest all that much either
That is not a valid excuse.
Kabam stated the reason for the 2015 champ restriction was to make rosters more diverse and engage in future content that will require a wider range of champs. By allowing player to retain rank ups on more coveted champs, it does the direct opposite of the intent of the crystal. It also creates a disadvantage to those that now have to face rosters with much large depth in AW which would have been achieved without the exploit.
I think rather than reversing their rank-ups they should just change the gems to normal 3-4 gems... That way those who finished fast won't feel cheated nor those who waited.
Those who finished fast won’t feel cheated?
Everyone knew they were supposed to get 2015 rank up gems. Everyone. If anyone finished early to rank up new champs with bugged 2015 rank up gems, they knowingly cheated.
The only people who should feel cheated are the ones who finished fast but still didn’t use 2015 rank up gems on new champs or the people who haven’t finished yet.
I finished fast, didn't use it on champs I could have....because, that's "cheating" and I wasn't feeling like being banned over ranking up rogue or x23.
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So is every other time kabam banned people for something like this wrong to u as well?
Another example of how another person who is nowhere near..
“End game” knows nothing
If u read my post in first page from an end game player to an end game player.
the people who 100% this asap and ranked up non 2015 champions to rank up whatever champions they want.
Obvioisly this kind of content there is alot of resources involed to 100%
Again ur nowhere near where me or the other players around the top of master/platinum level to know that is a huge advantage in terms or resources and who/what to rank up.
Theres big difference being able to rank up a mutant champ from 2015 to a “any” mutant champ like iceman,domino,omega, etc.
The game stated the gems are suppose to be “2015” rank up gems, before the event even started so thats what they was suppose to be!!!
Anyways here a respond from dork lessons
And as he stated. If the rank ups suppose to be “2015” rank up gems then its suppose to be “2015” rank up gems.
Again those who completed and then kabam chose to let them keep them are totally unfair.
Dork daves vid
Why would i something thats restricted to 2015” “only” rank up gem while others had the luxury to rank up “any” champion ???
Let us have the same or reverse it.
There was another quest last year that kept giving t2a fragments and people spent money to keep completing to get an edge.
Both of those exploits got rolled back.
And yet this time, essentially 12 t2a are mistakenly given out to players who have spent to complete Back Issue 1 and not even a consideration of rolling back rank ups? I know Kabam has the technology to do so.
Top players are the ones who have finished this already.
Coincidentally, top players also know exactly what the rewards are and fully understand how those rewards work before they enter a quest. Hell, they already know how to exploit the game in several other ways and are allowed to do so daily.
Pretending like ignorance played any role in this is asinine. They simply took a chance. It was worth the VERY SMALL risk even if it was rolled back. Either a champ is deranked or they get lucky. You think that potentially losing one ranked champ matters when you already have 5 r5?
The message is clear: 99.9% of the player base doesn't matter. And this isn't even a spending thing. Ppl might have dropped $200 to clear it. Their accounts are monsters, mostly because they exploit the game every step of the way. Yeah, they're really good at the game too, but so are tons of others who just chose to not cheat.
This isn’t a spending thing. This isn’t protecting the whales.
I know whales that have dropped hundreds of thousands of dollars on this game over 3+ years that didn’t rush to 100% this and take advantage of the exploit because they were convinced kabam would either roll it back or ban them.
This is just scum players that exploit every aspect of the game in their quest for e-glory continuing to be scum, and kabam allowing them to get away with it.
I agree not the fault of pluaers who finished it early and were surprised to find that gen worked on all champs ..
But it still should be reversed ... Knowingly or unknowingly someone cannot be given advantage over others in the game .. whatever tier they are in ... That's the definition of the word "fair"...
Kabam said it was going to be 2015 champs only so ppl who used it on other champs shouldn't be surprised that their rank ups r gonna be reversed ..
Be fair to ur user base kabam ... Stuff like this open u up for lawsuits even ..
GET OVER IT. They get resources much faster than you, so those rank-ups were inevitable.
Im an end-game player and I dont care about this. I dont care about that quest all that much either
1. Make the ‘bug’ permanent for all players
2. Or reverse the rank ups.
Another example of Kabam making the wrong decisions that ultimately piss off the player community.
This will make me reconsider Black Friday and Cyber Monday offers.
Great job on doing exactly what you should NOT have done.
Cheers. Again.
I have seen so many discriminative decisions made by kabam over these 3 years. But this one tops all of them...
BTW, I am an end game player, I have couple of worthy 5* r4-r5 and 6* and also 4,5k units at my disposal. But I was on a business trip and decided to wait for weekend to complete. If I knew this was going to happen, I would rearrange my schedule, probably take day off and definitely go for those gems.
This is probably gonna be the most disrespectful decision ever made in the mobile gaming history.
You should review this decision. Cause you're simply giving some players a full labyrinth of legends rewards(both completion & %100 exploration), and giving the rest of players nothing but rank up tickets for some dusty champs.
Totally agree with this
People just be accusing others of exploiting their way through the game lol
Yes it should be reversed but accusing others...meh
Choices at Kabam HQ have consequences.
Not sure me being able to take up storm equals someone else taking up say domino.
This is so wrong Kabam.
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@Kabam Lyra @Kabam Miike
Please reconsider.
That is not a valid excuse.
Kabam stated the reason for the 2015 champ restriction was to make rosters more diverse and engage in future content that will require a wider range of champs. By allowing player to retain rank ups on more coveted champs, it does the direct opposite of the intent of the crystal. It also creates a disadvantage to those that now have to face rosters with much large depth in AW which would have been achieved without the exploit.
Those who finished fast won’t feel cheated?
Everyone knew they were supposed to get 2015 rank up gems. Everyone. If anyone finished early to rank up new champs with bugged 2015 rank up gems, they knowingly cheated.
The only people who should feel cheated are the ones who finished fast but still didn’t use 2015 rank up gems on new champs or the people who haven’t finished yet.
Guess I was wrong, it's not cheating.