We wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if kabam made ranking up alot easier, why should taking a 5* to rank 4 or 5 be so hard and so rare? 6*s are out now so kabam needs to make ranking material for 5*s more available
From another perspective, "we" wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if "we" made smarter rank up choices or learnt to be patient.
I don’t understand the redicule faced by newer players on RDTs. Everyone made mistakes when the had just begun the game. I am a mid-level player and finished uncollected and have no particular requirement of RDTs. But I don’t see the reason why other should simply deny something and redicule also. Maybe kabam will, maybe they won’t. But one thing which is for sure is that newer players don’t need the redicule from seasoned players
I couldn't agree more! Let seasoned players and noobs alike post their opinions without them being ridiculed. All might not agree with their opinions, but there are many nice ways to answer with your opinion without being rude. Also, try not to exaggerate like seen in this comment:
So....IF we ever get a rank-down ticket again, you would waste them on...R2's?
Yeah, try to play the game more then 4 minutes per week and you can rank up a couple of R2 per week.
And... before you dismiss me as a whiny millenial... I'm afraid I'm much older than that. (sadly) Too old in fact to have time to grind this game. Which makes me also feel a lack of rank-up resources.
You are at a very early stage of the game. You honestly have no need for a RDT. The reason they are so useful to a high level player is the resources we have in our top champs take months to accumulate, meanwhile at the stage of the game your in, you could just bust out a few quests and get the same resources and more in about a day.
We wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if kabam made ranking up alot easier, why should taking a 5* to rank 4 or 5 be so hard and so rare? 6*s are out now so kabam needs to make ranking material for 5*s more available
From another perspective, "we" wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if "we" made smarter rank up choices or learnt to be patient.
Rank up materials for 5*s ARE more available.
That's not true tho..."if we make smart rank up decisions"
The whole point of them issuing rank down tickets last year was for the evolution of the game. A champion may have benefit useful one year and is absolutely useless the next. We can't continuously plan for the new unique challenges they present us every 3 to 4 months as we acquire the resources to do so.
For example, they created one science Champ last year, making a lot of the skill champs not as useful... this year they created one mystic. This is just my example in the simplest fashion as the game is deeper than that but you get my point.
Compare it to buying a lap top, it's out dated the day it hits the shelf, you take it home and it's useful, but there's always one to better serve you next year. I love the courtesy of kabam issuing them last year as it allows us to trade in that old lap and get an upgrade package for the future.
If they do decide to issue them then everyone here, even the nay sayers, will welcome them. It's not something we need but rather something we all would benefit from
If we do I would be split into Iceman or Magik for 5/65. Who should I do? Leaning towards iceman.
Iceman all the way! I have Magik at R4. I only have a 4* Iceman but I love his utility and abilities and if I had a 5* I would take him up to R5 if I could!
We wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if kabam made ranking up alot easier, why should taking a 5* to rank 4 or 5 be so hard and so rare? 6*s are out now so kabam needs to make ranking material for 5*s more available
From another perspective, "we" wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if "we" made smarter rank up choices or learnt to be patient.
Rank up materials for 5*s ARE more available.
That's not true tho..."if we make smart rank up decisions"
The whole point of them issuing rank down tickets last year was for the evolution of the game. A champion may have benefit useful one year and is absolutely useless the next. We can't continuously plan for the new unique challenges they present us every 3 to 4 months as we acquire the resources to do so.
For example, they created one science Champ last year, making a lot of the skill champs not as useful... this year they created one mystic. This is just my example in the simplest fashion as the game is deeper than that but you get my point.
Compare it to buying a lap top, it's out dated the day it hits the shelf, you take it home and it's useful, but there's always one to better serve you next year. I love the courtesy of kabam issuing them last year as it allows us to trade in that old lap and get an upgrade package for the future.
If they do decide to issue them then everyone here, even the nay sayers, will welcome them. It's not something we need but rather something we all would benefit from
I hope we do. It would benefit Kabam if they did. Everyone with and R4 plus Dormamu who used to be a war boss prior to MD nerf would be ranked down now that he is not good in that role. Then people would rank up new bosses like IMIW for defense. Kabam would benefit via potion sales.
Compare it to buying a lap top, it's out dated the day it hits the shelf, you take it home and it's useful, but there's always one to better serve you next year. I love the courtesy of kabam issuing them last year as it allows us to trade in that old lap and get an upgrade package for the future.
That's really not a good analogy. When you buy a laptop and it gets to the point that it's no longer as powerful (which usually is a few months later), you don't get to take it to the store and say "I want to get something for this old laptop so I can get a new, better one". Most stores will tell you that you just need to buy a new one. Your best bet is to try to sell the old laptop on the secondary market or keep it as another device. That's how it should be with this game. Don't like the champ you ranked? Sell it or deal with it.
We wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if kabam made ranking up alot easier, why should taking a 5* to rank 4 or 5 be so hard and so rare? 6*s are out now so kabam needs to make ranking material for 5*s more available
From another perspective, "we" wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if "we" made smarter rank up choices or learnt to be patient.
Rank up materials for 5*s ARE more available.
That's not true tho..."if we make smart rank up decisions"
The whole point of them issuing rank down tickets last year was for the evolution of the game. A champion may have benefit useful one year and is absolutely useless the next. We can't continuously plan for the new unique challenges they present us every 3 to 4 months as we acquire the resources to do so.
You're right, and you're wrong. You're correct that there's no way to make "smart rank up decisions" that avoid the desire for RDTs, because the game is constantly introducing things that change the value of rank up decisions. But you're not correct that the whole point of RDTs is to address that problem, because from a game design perspective that's not a problem. That's actually an explicit goal of the game design. It isn't an accident that the game keeps changing in ways that make different decisions more and less valuable. It is critical to the long term health of the game that the devs keep doing this, and the reason is to keep introducing pursuit goals for the players to chase. And those pursuit goals don't just include new champions, they also include the rank up materials to rank them up. Those things have to be equally desired and pursued by the players or the whole progress ladder breaks down.
RDTs break the progression ladder of the game by allowing players to rank up new champions without having to pursue the rank up materials necessary, and just reuse old materials. That is game breaking in the literal sense: it violates the design intent of the rank up material progress ladder. The question isn't if they are a bad idea, the question is how much of that bad idea are the devs willing to tolerate to address other issues. But in and of itself, the idea that players are not happy with older rank up decisions is not one of those issues. That is, for lack of a better description, planned and deliberate obsolescence.
I want a RDT so let me keep spamming Kabam so we definitely get none smh
As much as the meta changes and how they add so many different nodes that make champs you ranked useless we should get them once a year. Not everyone can pay to play and free users should have equal opportunity as people with unlimited bank accounts.
giving us a RDT is just a positive move after all the MD changes and other changes like buffing old champs, it just helps players to enjoy more and stay in game and I don't know why the **** players that don't need RDT's don't want others to have them too, what's the benefit for those players? browsing around and say nooo kabam no RDT (smh) ... many players can have a better experience in the game with RDT due to a rank up a mistake or due to MD change or even ranking up someone you don't like cause of max item capacity and expiring items , and it also helps kabam for money grab cause many players will rank down a BS champ and rank up better defense champs for AW lol and kabam will surely receive many appreciate feedback for it cause they can do this little thing with few buttons and support their players in this little way ... i hope we get a rank down ticket as an xmas gift at the end of the year ...
I ranked up xbones to r4 for countering medusa , spidey in wars but now I maxed out killmonger so he will do the job ... Now I have to r5 a champ asap I'm in need of three t2a which will take an eternity of an average player .. Only thing that will help me is a 5* rdown ticked on xbones and then I can r5 blade or carnage
I ranked up xbones to r4 for countering medusa , spidey in wars but now I maxed out killmonger so he will do the job ... Now I have to r5 a champ asap I'm in need of three t2a which will take an eternity of an average player .. Only thing that will help me is a 5* rdown ticked on xbones and then I can r5 blade or carnage
Or, hear me out here: you earn the cats needed to rank up Blade or Carnage the same way you earned them for all your other champs. Just a thought.
I would love to get an RDT for how they destroyed Drax (his dash back on any evade the defender does, makes him absolutely useless as a champ now). They've made multiple changes to Mordo, as well, which have never shown up on the patch notes (for three months mordo gained power like loki on his first bar of power, now he no longer does it? Neither of those changes were mentioned in patch notes...)
There are reasons for people to want RDT's, and they are good ones. They just happen to be ignored due to the mountains of people who want RDT's because they ranked things up, and just want to change their roster, instead of it being because of something Kabam did to the champs.
We wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if kabam made ranking up alot easier, why should taking a 5* to rank 4 or 5 be so hard and so rare? 6*s are out now so kabam needs to make ranking material for 5*s more available
From another perspective, "we" wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if "we" made smarter rank up choices or learnt to be patient.
Rank up materials for 5*s ARE more available.
That's not true tho..."if we make smart rank up decisions"
The whole point of them issuing rank down tickets last year was for the evolution of the game. A champion may have benefit useful one year and is absolutely useless the next. We can't continuously plan for the new unique challenges they present us every 3 to 4 months as we acquire the resources to do so.
You're right, and you're wrong. You're correct that there's no way to make "smart rank up decisions" that avoid the desire for RDTs, because the game is constantly introducing things that change the value of rank up decisions. But you're not correct that the whole point of RDTs is to address that problem, because from a game design perspective that's not a problem. That's actually an explicit goal of the game design. It isn't an accident that the game keeps changing in ways that make different decisions more and less valuable. It is critical to the long term health of the game that the devs keep doing this, and the reason is to keep introducing pursuit goals for the players to chase. And those pursuit goals don't just include new champions, they also include the rank up materials to rank them up. Those things have to be equally desired and pursued by the players or the whole progress ladder breaks down.
RDTs break the progression ladder of the game by allowing players to rank up new champions without having to pursue the rank up materials necessary, and just reuse old materials. That is game breaking in the literal sense: it violates the design intent of the rank up material progress ladder. The question isn't if they are a bad idea, the question is how much of that bad idea are the devs willing to tolerate to address other issues. But in and of itself, the idea that players are not happy with older rank up decisions is not one of those issues. That is, for lack of a better description, planned and deliberate obsolescence.
but that's exactly what they said last year. They issued them with the following disclaimer verbatim
"In 2017 the contest saw addition of man unique and power Champions from all over the Marvel Universe and the trend will continue in 2018
To show our appreciation for your continued participation in The Contest and to help prepare for 2018, we would like to grant you a rare 3, 4, and 5-Star Rank Down Ticket. ..."
So that's exactly why the issued the rank down tickets as i said, because new challenges await us. so again a rank up choice at one point may have been extremely useful, E.G: AA and the mass exodus of the Mystic class defenders.
We wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if kabam made ranking up alot easier, why should taking a 5* to rank 4 or 5 be so hard and so rare? 6*s are out now so kabam needs to make ranking material for 5*s more available
From another perspective, "we" wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if "we" made smarter rank up choices or learnt to be patient.
Rank up materials for 5*s ARE more available.
That's not true tho..."if we make smart rank up decisions"
The whole point of them issuing rank down tickets last year was for the evolution of the game. A champion may have benefit useful one year and is absolutely useless the next. We can't continuously plan for the new unique challenges they present us every 3 to 4 months as we acquire the resources to do so.
You're right, and you're wrong. You're correct that there's no way to make "smart rank up decisions" that avoid the desire for RDTs, because the game is constantly introducing things that change the value of rank up decisions. But you're not correct that the whole point of RDTs is to address that problem, because from a game design perspective that's not a problem. That's actually an explicit goal of the game design. It isn't an accident that the game keeps changing in ways that make different decisions more and less valuable. It is critical to the long term health of the game that the devs keep doing this, and the reason is to keep introducing pursuit goals for the players to chase. And those pursuit goals don't just include new champions, they also include the rank up materials to rank them up. Those things have to be equally desired and pursued by the players or the whole progress ladder breaks down.
RDTs break the progression ladder of the game by allowing players to rank up new champions without having to pursue the rank up materials necessary, and just reuse old materials. That is game breaking in the literal sense: it violates the design intent of the rank up material progress ladder. The question isn't if they are a bad idea, the question is how much of that bad idea are the devs willing to tolerate to address other issues. But in and of itself, the idea that players are not happy with older rank up decisions is not one of those issues. That is, for lack of a better description, planned and deliberate obsolescence.
but that's exactly what they said last year. They issued them with the following disclaimer verbatim
"In 2017 the contest saw addition of man unique and power Champions from all over the Marvel Universe and the trend will continue in 2018
To show our appreciation for your continued participation in The Contest and to help prepare for 2018, we would like to grant you a rare 3, 4, and 5-Star Rank Down Ticket. ..."
So that's exactly why the issued the rank down tickets as i said, because new challenges await us. so again a rank up choice at one point may have been extremely useful, E.G: AA and the mass exodus of the Mystic class defenders.
That's cherry picking a marketing statement. That's like me saying it is obvious the reason why beer companies sell beer is to help me hook up with girls.
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From another perspective, "we" wouldn't need to beg for rank down tickets every week if "we" made smarter rank up choices or learnt to be patient.
Rank up materials for 5*s ARE more available.
I couldn't agree more! Let seasoned players and noobs alike post their opinions without them being ridiculed. All might not agree with their opinions, but there are many nice ways to answer with your opinion without being rude. Also, try not to exaggerate like seen in this comment:
And... before you dismiss me as a whiny millenial... I'm afraid I'm much older than that. (sadly) Too old in fact to have time to grind this game. Which makes me also feel a lack of rank-up resources.
That's not true tho..."if we make smart rank up decisions"
The whole point of them issuing rank down tickets last year was for the evolution of the game. A champion may have benefit useful one year and is absolutely useless the next. We can't continuously plan for the new unique challenges they present us every 3 to 4 months as we acquire the resources to do so.
For example, they created one science Champ last year, making a lot of the skill champs not as useful... this year they created one mystic. This is just my example in the simplest fashion as the game is deeper than that but you get my point.
Compare it to buying a lap top, it's out dated the day it hits the shelf, you take it home and it's useful, but there's always one to better serve you next year. I love the courtesy of kabam issuing them last year as it allows us to trade in that old lap and get an upgrade package for the future.
If they do decide to issue them then everyone here, even the nay sayers, will welcome them. It's not something we need but rather something we all would benefit from
Iceman all the way! I have Magik at R4. I only have a 4* Iceman but I love his utility and abilities and if I had a 5* I would take him up to R5 if I could!
Well said. Agree 100%
That's really not a good analogy. When you buy a laptop and it gets to the point that it's no longer as powerful (which usually is a few months later), you don't get to take it to the store and say "I want to get something for this old laptop so I can get a new, better one". Most stores will tell you that you just need to buy a new one. Your best bet is to try to sell the old laptop on the secondary market or keep it as another device. That's how it should be with this game. Don't like the champ you ranked? Sell it or deal with it.
You're right, and you're wrong. You're correct that there's no way to make "smart rank up decisions" that avoid the desire for RDTs, because the game is constantly introducing things that change the value of rank up decisions. But you're not correct that the whole point of RDTs is to address that problem, because from a game design perspective that's not a problem. That's actually an explicit goal of the game design. It isn't an accident that the game keeps changing in ways that make different decisions more and less valuable. It is critical to the long term health of the game that the devs keep doing this, and the reason is to keep introducing pursuit goals for the players to chase. And those pursuit goals don't just include new champions, they also include the rank up materials to rank them up. Those things have to be equally desired and pursued by the players or the whole progress ladder breaks down.
RDTs break the progression ladder of the game by allowing players to rank up new champions without having to pursue the rank up materials necessary, and just reuse old materials. That is game breaking in the literal sense: it violates the design intent of the rank up material progress ladder. The question isn't if they are a bad idea, the question is how much of that bad idea are the devs willing to tolerate to address other issues. But in and of itself, the idea that players are not happy with older rank up decisions is not one of those issues. That is, for lack of a better description, planned and deliberate obsolescence.
As much as the meta changes and how they add so many different nodes that make champs you ranked useless we should get them once a year. Not everyone can pay to play and free users should have equal opportunity as people with unlimited bank accounts.
I ranked up xbones to r4 for countering medusa , spidey in wars but now I maxed out killmonger so he will do the job ... Now I have to r5 a champ asap I'm in need of three t2a which will take an eternity of an average player .. Only thing that will help me is a 5* rdown ticked on xbones and then I can r5 blade or carnage
Or, hear me out here: you earn the cats needed to rank up Blade or Carnage the same way you earned them for all your other champs. Just a thought.
There are reasons for people to want RDT's, and they are good ones. They just happen to be ignored due to the mountains of people who want RDT's because they ranked things up, and just want to change their roster, instead of it being because of something Kabam did to the champs.
but that's exactly what they said last year. They issued them with the following disclaimer verbatim
"In 2017 the contest saw addition of man unique and power Champions from all over the Marvel Universe and the trend will continue in 2018
To show our appreciation for your continued participation in The Contest and to help prepare for 2018, we would like to grant you a rare 3, 4, and 5-Star Rank Down Ticket. ..."
So that's exactly why the issued the rank down tickets as i said, because new challenges await us. so again a rank up choice at one point may have been extremely useful, E.G: AA and the mass exodus of the Mystic class defenders.
That's cherry picking a marketing statement. That's like me saying it is obvious the reason why beer companies sell beer is to help me hook up with girls.