Ok can everyone here just explain to me which of the new rewards are worth getting angry about?
A message was sent in the game that they will be increasing act 1-4 exploration rewards. Exactly what extra stuff is added i do not know yet. But the message did say roughly that summoners that completed/explored act 1-4 recently, after 13 december 2018 will be getting the mail containing extra rewards or something. What everyone is mad about is that those that completed/explored act 1-4 before 13 december 2018(which is practically 85% of the player base probably) are at this point in time not gonna be given the extra rewards.
The new rewards are already in game but I just dont see how those are really that valuable
Did you complete/explore act 1-4 after 13 december? just checking
Exactly. I would advise you kindly read the whole thing, research a bit before you spam comment in all the discussions. You are doing it in the other thread too.
I understand the concern here, and it was a long conversation I had with team in regards to this. Unfortunately, what it came down to was that it was not possible to award all of these items reliably to Summoners that had beaten the content more than 3 months ago.
We did this once in the past when we updated Act 3 and 4 rewards, and it was not reliable, with some Players not getting their rewards, and others getting them twice.
We made these changes to rewards to help newer players adjust and move forward quicker. In the time that has passed since most Summoners have conquered this Content, they have gotten many more resources of this caliber. This is to help those that are just starting catch up.
We already have the title for Act 1-4. Should be easy to identify?
That was my suggestion, but those are just for Completion. They don't identify Exploration, which is where most of the reward changes went.
Isn't an obvious solution to make a new title for exploration, then apply the rewards? That would take less than a day to do, then easily make it searchable as to who has it, and who doesn't. Preemptively apply it to further Acts, 5 and 6, to avoid this in the future as well.
The Act 4 rewards were barely increased. I'm not even sure what is new and what isnt
Mate, again, on this thread too, please try to read the whole thing and research it. You are probably in love with the game, or unaware of the issue, doesnt mean others cant complain
Yes it's fair. They need more help to grow now than we did when we went through it. The game has changed a great deal. What difference does it make to us if people got a few more PHCs? Let them have all the help they can get. They will need it to catch up.
Ok, the extra rewards may not have been significant, but its the principle of fairness. Any improvements they make to rewards, they gotta make sure that everyone is fairly compensated.
The Act 4 rewards were barely increased. I'm not even sure what is new and what isnt
Mate, again, on this thread too, please try to read the whole thing and research it. You are probably in love with the game, or unaware of the issue, doesnt mean others cant complain
I was trying to find out why exactly people were complaining but I didnt get any useful responses
Yes it's fair. They need more help to grow now than we did when we went through it. The game has changed a great deal. What difference does it make to us if people got a few more PHCs? Let them have all the help they can get. They will need it to catch up.
Oh God, I heard about you. Seatin said you are @Kabam Miike 's troll account.
How about instead of doing nothing but complaining, we all work together as the Giant Passionate About This Game Community we are and come up with some ways to deal with this so no one gets screwed over? With the amount of people here it shouldn't be hard to come up with a solution...
Ok, the extra rewards may not have been significant, but its the principle of fairness. Any improvements they make to rewards, they gotta make sure that everyone is fairly compensated.
If we're talking principle of fairness, they deserve more because it was an entirely different game when we did it.
I understand the concern here, and it was a long conversation I had with team in regards to this. Unfortunately, what it came down to was that it was not possible to award all of these items reliably to Summoners that had beaten the content more than 3 months ago.
We did this once in the past when we updated Act 3 and 4 rewards, and it was not reliable, with some Players not getting their rewards, and others getting them twice.
We made these changes to rewards to help newer players adjust and move forward quicker. In the time that has passed since most Summoners have conquered this Content, they have gotten many more resources of this caliber. This is to help those that are just starting catch up.
We already have the title for Act 1-4. Should be easy to identify?
That was my suggestion, but those are just for Completion. They don't identify Exploration, which is where most of the reward changes went.
Or hey you added a Title for Fully Exploring Act 5, Elder's Bane, why not just do that for every other Act? It would just be the Title, like Elder's Bane, and not a Whole New Summoner Rank like Conqueror or Uncollected. That would identify who has and hasn't Fully Explored what Act, while also showing who has and hasn't Completed what Act.
What makes you think that a new title wouldnt cause the exact same problem?
Why can't we just be treated equally one to another instead of the whales getting better stuff and the newer accounts getting better stuff? An easy solution has been advised, take the advise and do it💁
I can't help but continue to feel disappointed in the development of mcoc it's as though the only goal is to make as much money as possible of fan base and disregard loyalty to the game I feel really disappointed lately and these recent changes could be making an end to my continues loyalty to playing mcoc I'm honestly really disappointed in these recent changes specially when team members say making things easier available to players but add silly nodes then block off any possible counters by restricting champions to start rating not giving buffed rewards to all those who had dedicated time to completing story previously just because it's to much hassle or whatever real reason it's just disappointing I don't comment much but I feel really disappointed so enraged I don't even care about grammar you'll get the picture anyway overall disappointed
Why can't we just be treated equally one to another instead of the whales getting better stuff and the newer accounts getting better stuff? An easy solution has been advised, take the advise and do it💁
An easy solution? do you mean adding even more rewards by adding a title because that would somehow be useful?
@Kabam Miike While I completely understand that you and your team have hit an obstacle in rewards here, there is room for more effort in bringing your veteran players to the light too. We have all very clearly completed and explored these quests and deserve these rewards too.
Why is it that whenever something is upgraded or changed, one part of the player base has to suffer? I very clearly earned the rewards in the photo above. I will never receive them because...?
Yes it's fair. They need more help to grow now than we did when we went through it. The game has changed a great deal. What difference does it make to us if people got a few more PHCs? Let them have all the help they can get. They will need it to catch up.
Your missing the point bro, its not that we want the newer players to not have the rewards, its that we want everyone, including those who completed/explored the acts way before december 13, to get the same rewards as its only fair. It can't be that hard to check how much of act 1-4 an individual has explored/completed.
I'm just trying to figure out how, with all the data that gets logged about us, there is not some field logging exploration date. Obviously, there is one for completion because of the titles and there is one for exploration to get the rewards originally but you all log nearly everything else except the date? There could even be a "freeze" for handing out the different rewards to dig through all the backlog of data to ensure you get it done for anyone prior to the cut off. Just ridiculous.
I understand the concern here, and it was a long conversation I had with team in regards to this. Unfortunately, what it came down to was that it was not possible to award all of these items reliably to Summoners that had beaten the content more than 3 months ago.
We did this once in the past when we updated Act 3 and 4 rewards, and it was not reliable, with some Players not getting their rewards, and others getting them twice.
We made these changes to rewards to help newer players adjust and move forward quicker. In the time that has passed since most Summoners have conquered this Content, they have gotten many more resources of this caliber. This is to help those that are just starting catch up.
We already have the title for Act 1-4. Should be easy to identify?
That was my suggestion, but those are just for Completion. They don't identify Exploration, which is where most of the reward changes went.
Isn't an obvious solution to make a new title for exploration, then apply the rewards? That would take less than a day to do, then easily make it searchable as to who has it, and who doesn't. Preemptively apply it to further Acts, 5 and 6, to avoid this in the future as well.
Problem solved.
Lol beat me by 2 Minutes
But think about that. You and I, and probably many others, resolved that in minutes. This issue just was brought to us, and in Kabam's "long discussion" this wasn't even considered?
It takes 2 Tier 4 Basics and 5 Tier 1 Alphas to Rank 2 a 5-Star. Or those Tier 4 Basics are half to Rank 3 a 5-Star. And the Tier 4 Class Catalyst helps with the Rank 3 as well.
We've just been told we need to use strictly 5-Stars and up for Act 6. What a blown moment on Kabam's part. Issue these out with Level Up running, and people could make the connection. Seriously, how did you blow this?
Imagine the spin you could have done.
"Summoners, We've heard your feedback and updated prior Acts to increase the rewards and accelerate your options for Act 6. Hopefully these items help you with ranking your fighters in Carina's new chapter.
See you on the battlerealm."
That would have been an easy win for the game team. But instead we're told it would just take too much effort, or something, so nah...
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Why is it that whenever something is upgraded or changed, one part of the player base has to suffer? I very clearly earned the rewards in the photo above. I will never receive them because...?
Rewards include:
2 Tier 4 Basic Catalysts
5 Tier 1 Alphas
1 Tier 4 Class Catalyst Crystal
It takes 2 Tier 4 Basics and 5 Tier 1 Alphas to Rank 2 a 5-Star. Or those Tier 4 Basics are half to Rank 3 a 5-Star. And the Tier 4 Class Catalyst helps with the Rank 3 as well.
We've just been told we need to use strictly 5-Stars and up for Act 6. What a blown moment on Kabam's part. Issue these out with Level Up running, and people could make the connection. Seriously, how did you blow this?
Imagine the spin you could have done.
"Summoners,
We've heard your feedback and updated prior Acts to increase the rewards and accelerate your options for Act 6. Hopefully these items help you with ranking your fighters in Carina's new chapter.
See you on the battlerealm."
That would have been an easy win for the game team. But instead we're told it would just take too much effort, or something, so nah...