Simple answer to this... god I've posted this same answer too many times this week.....
Main Marvel Universe is Earth-616 Marvel Contest of Champions Universe is Earth-TRN517 The MCU is Earth-199999
In the Main Marvel Universe, their rules and logic do not always apply to other Marvel Universe. For example we don't see all the changes from Earth-1610, or the Ultimates Universe, effecting how the main 616 continuity runs, there are a FEW heroes such as Miles Morales who have stuck around from it, but in general, what happens in one Universe stays in one Universe, unless some specific comic story line needs a plot device, such as with Old Man Logan coming from his Earth-807128 continuity, but eventually going back. Even in those comics, he noted that the heroes in the Main Universe differed from the ones from his own continuity.
What about dormamu what about dr. patriot what about jamal khan what about this what about that yadda yadda yadda. Go play runescape or pokemon if you have to continue to ask kabam why they do certain things.
Because Ice can still get colder, even too cold for iceman
that's not how thermodynamics works
This past looks like you are talking aobut ice getting colder, but since that does happen, this cant be the stupid part. So why are thermodynamics important in a discussion about a fictional chracter and the limits of his powers?
This is a phase diagram... Water becomes ice at 30 degree c or 32 f, it has the same properties across the board and DOES NOT get colder, unless there is a certain pressure exerted on it. Pressure is what makes the ice colder and that occurs in certain regions of the earth. Above ground and at normal atm (atmospheric pressure) and temp ice DOES not naturally get colder, unless there are other factors involved. By that definition, and application of the laws of thermo. he should be immune to coldsnap under all conditions he is put in during gameplay (unless they decide to have him fighting in pressurized containers)
This is complete gibberish. First of all the phase diagram shows the phases of water given temperature and pressure. It specifies what phase water will be in for any given pair of pressures and temperatures. It does not state that water "does not get colder unless there is a certain pressure exerted on it." The chart literally shows pressure and temperature: ice can have any temperature from about zero degrees C to absolute zero, depending on the pressure it is under.
I mean, the ice in my freezer is at about -15 C (what the freezer is set to) even though it is at standard atmospheric pressure.
Second, Iceman is stated to be immune to cold in the comics, but that is exposure to cold. What happens when you expose something to an environment that is at a very low temperature? Normally, heat flows from high temperature to low temperature via contact conduction or radiation emitted from the hotter object. This causes the hotter thing to cool down (and the cold environment to warm up slightly). The act of getting colder can hurt living thing or damage materials, but this process depends on how fast heat flows out of the hot object. Cold can't "suck" heat out any faster than the hot object wants to emit it (the rate of heat energy transfer depends on the temperature difference, but there's an absolute limit to how high this can be, because there's an absolute limit to how high the temperature difference can be, because there's a lower bound to temperature). This is why it can take a long time to freeze an object: no matter how cold the freezer, the hot object still takes however long to emit its heat.
It is entirely reasonable that Iceman is immune to exposure like this, because Iceman probably doesn't emit much heat, and what little heat he does emit (all objects not at absolute zero or within the quantum limit emit some heat) doesn't bother him if he loses it. He's immune to losing his own kinetic energy. But that doesn't mean he would necessarily be immune to Iceman himself, because Iceman doesn't just make things cold by being cold himself. He can literally yank the energy out of a substance almost instantly. We know this because Iceman can freeze water sold faster than normal heat exchange could do that. Even if Iceman was generating temperatures near absolute zero surrounding the objects he freezes, they wouldn't freeze instantly as they do. So he isn't surrounding them with cold. He is performing an energy transfer. And there's no reason to believe that Iceman is himself automatically immune to some other entity, like Iceman, from yanking all the energy out of their system. After all, his body has to contain and use energy, or he would be incapable of moving at all.
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Main Marvel Universe is Earth-616
Marvel Contest of Champions Universe is Earth-TRN517
The MCU is Earth-199999
In the Main Marvel Universe, their rules and logic do not always apply to other Marvel Universe. For example we don't see all the changes from Earth-1610, or the Ultimates Universe, effecting how the main 616 continuity runs, there are a FEW heroes such as Miles Morales who have stuck around from it, but in general, what happens in one Universe stays in one Universe, unless some specific comic story line needs a plot device, such as with Old Man Logan coming from his Earth-807128 continuity, but eventually going back. Even in those comics, he noted that the heroes in the Main Universe differed from the ones from his own continuity.
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I mean, the ice in my freezer is at about -15 C (what the freezer is set to) even though it is at standard atmospheric pressure.
Second, Iceman is stated to be immune to cold in the comics, but that is exposure to cold. What happens when you expose something to an environment that is at a very low temperature? Normally, heat flows from high temperature to low temperature via contact conduction or radiation emitted from the hotter object. This causes the hotter thing to cool down (and the cold environment to warm up slightly). The act of getting colder can hurt living thing or damage materials, but this process depends on how fast heat flows out of the hot object. Cold can't "suck" heat out any faster than the hot object wants to emit it (the rate of heat energy transfer depends on the temperature difference, but there's an absolute limit to how high this can be, because there's an absolute limit to how high the temperature difference can be, because there's a lower bound to temperature). This is why it can take a long time to freeze an object: no matter how cold the freezer, the hot object still takes however long to emit its heat.
It is entirely reasonable that Iceman is immune to exposure like this, because Iceman probably doesn't emit much heat, and what little heat he does emit (all objects not at absolute zero or within the quantum limit emit some heat) doesn't bother him if he loses it. He's immune to losing his own kinetic energy. But that doesn't mean he would necessarily be immune to Iceman himself, because Iceman doesn't just make things cold by being cold himself. He can literally yank the energy out of a substance almost instantly. We know this because Iceman can freeze water sold faster than normal heat exchange could do that. Even if Iceman was generating temperatures near absolute zero surrounding the objects he freezes, they wouldn't freeze instantly as they do. So he isn't surrounding them with cold. He is performing an energy transfer. And there's no reason to believe that Iceman is himself automatically immune to some other entity, like Iceman, from yanking all the energy out of their system. After all, his body has to contain and use energy, or he would be incapable of moving at all.