Punished for not having F4 champions?

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  • CoryMatthewsThoCoryMatthewsTho Member Posts: 145

    So I need to do Beginner, Normal and Heroic to get a 3*. Man please! 😂🤣

    Lmfao nice attempt at sarcasm. You should be doing each once in the first place. One pass of each difficulty yields 60 units. That's 180 units for all three. You literally have a month to do it which means you don't have to spend any units or refills if you space it out. Plus you get 3 free refills and a free greater champion boost. If you can't be bothered to put forth the absolute minimum effort to get free stuff + add to your roster, then you have literally zero right to complain about not having the right champ for a certain day of F4 daily goals. GTFOH lmao.
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  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★

    Bear3 said:

    It’s not the “lucky ones” all of these champs were available in arena 3/4/5* alike... you not grinding for them at any start doesn’t mean you’re unlucky. You could have gotten the 3/4* of all of these pretty easily. Lack of effort is why you don’t have them... so yes you’re lack of effort then is making you put out more effort now or miss out in rewards... don’t think of it as you being punished, think of it as those who got them being rewarded 😉

    Not sure I agree. Very few people can actually get the 4 or 5* versions in arena. Some people enjoy spending all their free time (plus units for refreshes) on arena. 3* however, should be doable by anyone who has played for a bit. I think the FF4 event is fine as is, but there's no way I'm gonna spend my time on 3* arena when I don't use 3* champs for anything and could instead use that time to get some 5* shards in 4* featured and 5* arena, and the 4* basic champ (if it's one I don't already have duped).

    Yeah, I too was bummed when I saw that Human Torch was the daily champ, but oh well. Still gonna hit them rewards...
    You don't need the champs until you do. Just ask all the big players who sold all of their 2* champs when the special arenas came out. I still use 3* champs when "specialists" are needed to clear content (like my 3* Ronan).

    Typically the only thing I use my 3* champs for is to grind arenas for more 3* champs (along with shards and units). Then a random event like this comes along and guess who has all the champs for bonus points? I don't have them all (missed the Annihilus day), but have managed to hit the milestone every day.

    PS: I work a 8-5 job, married with kids, and have plenty of other hobbies that keep me busy, so I know the time strain. But do you watch TV at night? That's when I'm grinding arenas. Sitting on the bus to/from work, I'm blasting through quests. Same with my lunch break. Even with all of this, my in-game timers are always running.
  • Bear3Bear3 Member Posts: 996 ★★★
    People always want others not to be rewarded for their extra efforts, it’s hilarious. “The games harder for me because I don’t put in as much time as other people, that’s not fair! We should have just as easy a time and all the same rewards even though I put in half the time and effort.”

    Seriously?😂😂😂
  • LordScatsburyLordScatsbury Member Posts: 176
    I just chillin here wanna know what ff4 means
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,452 ★★★★★

    I just chillin here wanna know what ff4 means

    Fantastic 4. Probably a misspell is all
  • doctorbdoctorb Member Posts: 1,850 ★★★★
    edited June 2019
    OmegaMan said:

    I like the idea of the Rifts this month and like the idea of giving you a choice between stable and unstable.

    I don’t agree with using “certain champs” on the daily goals to get the rewards for the rifts. The people that don’t have any version of these champions are punished more or less having to do five times the fights as the lucky ones that have gotten them.

    Again rewarding people that win from the RNG crystal drop rates and punish the ones who don’t have the account types to get these champions is an example of what is wrong with the game meta currently.

    When your account gets the same champions over an over again not rewarding new champions then these events come by is a slap in the face to many players in the community. I guess “shame on you” for not having good game RNG.

    I agree 1000%! In fact, I think they should make uncollected eq easier so as not to punish those who dont have strong champs. Yes I'm being sarcastic.

    Seriously though, like all other things in this game, sometimes ur able to do a lot or all of something one month, sometimes ur not. It is what it is. A lot of these heroes were available in the arena from 3* to 5* version. If ur not willing to put forth the effort and grind for it, then you shouldn't complain.

  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,452 ★★★★★
    doctorb said:

    OmegaMan said:

    I like the idea of the Rifts this month and like the idea of giving you a choice between stable and unstable.

    I don’t agree with using “certain champs” on the daily goals to get the rewards for the rifts. The people that don’t have any version of these champions are punished more or less having to do five times the fights as the lucky ones that have gotten them.

    Again rewarding people that win from the RNG crystal drop rates and punish the ones who don’t have the account types to get these champions is an example of what is wrong with the game meta currently.

    When your account gets the same champions over an over again not rewarding new champions then these events come by is a slap in the face to many players in the community. I guess “shame on you” for not having good game RNG.

    I agree 1000%! In fact, I think they should make uncollected eq easier so as not to punish those who dont have strong champs.
    If you can't handle EQUC you shouldn't be Uncollected
  • TacoScottyTacoScotty Member Posts: 407 ★★
    It’s not fair, I like to do stuff outside of work but those who dedicate more of their life to work get rewarded with usually with more pay/promotions...

    Not trying to be an ass but really that philosophy applies to most things. You just have realize what is important in your life and realize that those who place higher priority on certain items will potentially “advance” further or more easily for that one item. They did so without the benefit you had from placing other items at higher priority. It’s all about opportunity costs and you just have to think of bigger picture

  • Bear3Bear3 Member Posts: 996 ★★★
    Terra said:

    doctorb said:

    OmegaMan said:

    I like the idea of the Rifts this month and like the idea of giving you a choice between stable and unstable.

    I don’t agree with using “certain champs” on the daily goals to get the rewards for the rifts. The people that don’t have any version of these champions are punished more or less having to do five times the fights as the lucky ones that have gotten them.

    Again rewarding people that win from the RNG crystal drop rates and punish the ones who don’t have the account types to get these champions is an example of what is wrong with the game meta currently.

    When your account gets the same champions over an over again not rewarding new champions then these events come by is a slap in the face to many players in the community. I guess “shame on you” for not having good game RNG.

    I agree 1000%! In fact, I think they should make uncollected eq easier so as not to punish those who dont have strong champs.
    If you can't handle EQUC you shouldn't be Uncollected
    Pretty certain he was being sarcastic 😂
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,452 ★★★★★
    Bear3 said:

    Terra said:

    doctorb said:

    OmegaMan said:

    I like the idea of the Rifts this month and like the idea of giving you a choice between stable and unstable.

    I don’t agree with using “certain champs” on the daily goals to get the rewards for the rifts. The people that don’t have any version of these champions are punished more or less having to do five times the fights as the lucky ones that have gotten them.

    Again rewarding people that win from the RNG crystal drop rates and punish the ones who don’t have the account types to get these champions is an example of what is wrong with the game meta currently.

    When your account gets the same champions over an over again not rewarding new champions then these events come by is a slap in the face to many players in the community. I guess “shame on you” for not having good game RNG.

    I agree 1000%! In fact, I think they should make uncollected eq easier so as not to punish those who dont have strong champs.
    If you can't handle EQUC you shouldn't be Uncollected
    Pretty certain he was being sarcastic 😂
    Even if, I still stand correct in my statement and stand for what I said
  • Bear3Bear3 Member Posts: 996 ★★★
    I’d say becoming uncollected is easier than some of the uncollected event quests... stepping stones on the journey. Beating collector for instance is easier than beating uncollected thanos last month.
  • TacoScottyTacoScotty Member Posts: 407 ★★
    edited June 2019
    For those who don’t have diablo... think of this I was “lucky” enough to pull a 6* recently. Basically I get one day of being rewarded for that pull versus a lifetime of trash

    You probably can get your points faster using a quality champ doing RTL than I am getting with him. Fights take soo long for a 6*
  • Jedi_HawkeJedi_Hawke Member Posts: 955 ★★★
    OmegaMan said:

    The point is game not balanced at all.

    Remember what happened when thanos tried to balance things.
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  • Jedi_HawkeJedi_Hawke Member Posts: 955 ★★★
    All the event quests seem the same to me. I wonder if the Mr. Fantasic event will be extra loooooooooong though
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    gah, you dont need any specifc champ at all. HAving the specific champ just makes it faster. Many they cannot win at all with some people.
  • Dtl7714Dtl7714 Member Posts: 475 ★★★
    edited June 2019
    ch4rn said:

    You also have the option of doing arena to try and get those champs when they land in the game. If you choose not to, then thats your problem, unfortuantely.

    It sucks, but thats the game.

    Yep, all those numerous arenas we've had to get Invisible Woman, Namor, Anihlus, and HumanTorch.

    That is if you can beat out the bots in the arenas or are willing to spend to put up enough points.

    That being said it is not too difficult to hit all the milestones
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    edited June 2019
    Dtl7714 said:

    ch4rn said:

    You also have the option of doing arena to try and get those champs when they land in the game. If you choose not to, then thats your problem, unfortuantely.

    It sucks, but thats the game.

    Yep, all those numerous arenas we've had to get Invisible Woman, Namor, Anihlus, and HumanTorch.

    That is if you can beat out the bots in the arenas or are willing to spend to put up enough points.

    That being said it is not too difficult to hit all the milestones
    Pretty sure I only spent about 3-4 hours spread across 3 days getting 3* versions of each of them. Invisible Woman hasn't had her arena yet, nor has she (or Namor) been selected for the Hero Use event.

    It should also be noted that the only 2 champs used in the special Hero Use event not in the basic pool right now have been Anni and Human Torch.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    Dtl7714 said:

    ch4rn said:

    You also have the option of doing arena to try and get those champs when they land in the game. If you choose not to, then thats your problem, unfortuantely.

    It sucks, but thats the game.

    Yep, all those numerous arenas we've had to get Invisible Woman, Namor, Anihlus, and HumanTorch.

    That is if you can beat out the bots in the arenas or are willing to spend to put up enough points.

    That being said it is not too difficult to hit all the milestones
    There's always the 3* Arena. I've done it religiously for collection purposes even since I started. Not much effort required for it, and they come in handy for occasions such as this.
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    For those in the US, you can also get points with Marvel Insider and redeem them for 3* champs each month. Got both Human Torch and Thing that way.
  • Dtl7714Dtl7714 Member Posts: 475 ★★★

    Dtl7714 said:

    ch4rn said:

    You also have the option of doing arena to try and get those champs when they land in the game. If you choose not to, then thats your problem, unfortuantely.

    It sucks, but thats the game.

    Yep, all those numerous arenas we've had to get Invisible Woman, Namor, Anihlus, and HumanTorch.

    That is if you can beat out the bots in the arenas or are willing to spend to put up enough points.

    That being said it is not too difficult to hit all the milestones
    Pretty sure I only spent about 3-4 hours spread across 3 days getting 3* versions of each of them. Invisible Woman hasn't had her arena yet, nor has she (or Namor) been selected for the Hero Use event.

    It should also be noted that the only 2 champs used in the special Hero Use event not in the basic pool right now have been Anni and Human Torch.
    Well thanks for clearing that up, obviously everyone should have a champ that is only awarded to the too 10% in arena for the champs that have only been run a few times
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    @Dtl7714 My point is that if you want the prize, you have to earn it. Either grind arenas for the champ, spend units on crystals for the champ, or go with the old fashioned approach of grind through some content with a 6* champ (beginner & normal EQ as well as RTTL are fantastic for this). The only 3* champs I don't have are the ones I chose not to go for.

    Instead of thinking about being punished for not having something, why can you not think of it more like a reward for those who did? Why should my effort nerfed because you don't have the time to play or because you choose not to do something?

    I put in the work to get something. That prize later proved to be more valuable than I originally thought. I still have to put in the work of actually doing the fights. It's not a case of "you have Human Torch, have 25 free units today".
  • Bear3Bear3 Member Posts: 996 ★★★
    Dtl7714 said:

    ch4rn said:

    You also have the option of doing arena to try and get those champs when they land in the game. If you choose not to, then thats your problem, unfortuantely.

    It sucks, but thats the game.

    Yep, all those numerous arenas we've had to get Invisible Woman, Namor, Anihlus, and HumanTorch.

    That is if you can beat out the bots in the arenas or are willing to spend to put up enough points.

    That being said it is not too difficult to hit all the milestones
    @Dtl7714 This is a ludicrous response for several reasons.

    1. Invisible woman and Namor aren’t even part of the champion list that give you the 10k points boost 😂 nice try

    2. There isn’t a problem with bots for the 3/4* arenas for these champs.. if you didn’t want to put in the time for their arenas then I guess you have to put in time now, finishing the events.

    3. How many arenas of each champ do you need?!😂😂. One seems like it should do it... 3* are super easy to get.. literally can be done in the short part of one day. It comes down to you didn’t want to put the effort in. Well guess what? People who did put the effort in are rewarded. You’re not being penalized, you’re just also not being rewarded. Same as anything else in the game.
  • Dtl7714Dtl7714 Member Posts: 475 ★★★

    @Dtl7714 My point is that if you want the prize, you have to earn it. Either grind arenas for the champ, spend units on crystals for the champ, or go with the old fashioned approach of grind through some content with a 6* champ (beginner & normal EQ as well as RTTL are fantastic for this). The only 3* champs I don't have are the ones I chose not to go for.

    Instead of thinking about being punished for not having something, why can you not think of it more like a reward for those who did? Why should my effort nerfed because you don't have the time to play or because you choose not to do something?

    I put in the work to get something. That prize later proved to be more valuable than I originally thought. I still have to put in the work of actually doing the fights. It's not a case of "you have Human Torch, have 25 free units today".

    So reading isnt your strong suit. You should try reading my original post again if you think I agree with it being punished. I actually said it is not difficult to reach all the milestones.

    I just disagreed with your comment about how easy it is to have all the characters.
  • Dtl7714Dtl7714 Member Posts: 475 ★★★
    Bear3 said:

    Dtl7714 said:

    ch4rn said:

    You also have the option of doing arena to try and get those champs when they land in the game. If you choose not to, then thats your problem, unfortuantely.

    It sucks, but thats the game.

    Yep, all those numerous arenas we've had to get Invisible Woman, Namor, Anihlus, and HumanTorch.

    That is if you can beat out the bots in the arenas or are willing to spend to put up enough points.

    That being said it is not too difficult to hit all the milestones
    @Dtl7714 This is a ludicrous response for several reasons.

    1. Invisible woman and Namor aren’t even part of the champion list that give you the 10k points boost 😂 nice try

    2. There isn’t a problem with bots for the 3/4* arenas for these champs.. if you didn’t want to put in the time for their arenas then I guess you have to put in time now, finishing the events.

    3. How many arenas of each champ do you need?!😂😂. One seems like it should do it... 3* are super easy to get.. literally can be done in the short part of one day. It comes down to you didn’t want to put the effort in. Well guess what? People who did put the effort in are rewarded. You’re not being penalized, you’re just also not being rewarded. Same as anything else in the game.
    My point was that most people shouldnt have all the characters.

    So for your first point in pointing out some havent even been in arenas you are agreeing with me.

    Thanks.

    As for 2 and 3 if a champ has only been in a few times such as human torch or annihlus. And it is only awarded to the top 10% not everyone will have it.
  • Oesername123Oesername123 Member Posts: 253 ★★★
    Kabam may have made a lot of mistakes recently, but the 24h event where we can get units and revives easily, and on a daily basis, is definitely something that should be praised.

    The fact that people still complain about this, it just boggles the mind.

    I've been playing since 2015, 770k rating, and I still don't have all the champs on the list, and some of the ones I do have are only 3*. No biggie. Do road to the labyrinth, Chapter 1.1, 1.2, 1.3. 1 energy per fight. Autofight. Easy.
  • Dtl7714Dtl7714 Member Posts: 475 ★★★
    Agreed I actually love this event and am loading up on units and revives. The event is actually easy to hit all the milestones

    I just made the mistake of having the audacity to mention that not everyone is going to have evry champ, and it was unrealistic to assume everyone could have every champ because of arenas(sorry to have that opinion) and every body who is obsessed with arenas felt like going off.
  • doctorbdoctorb Member Posts: 1,850 ★★★★
    Terra said:

    doctorb said:

    OmegaMan said:

    I like the idea of the Rifts this month and like the idea of giving you a choice between stable and unstable.

    I don’t agree with using “certain champs” on the daily goals to get the rewards for the rifts. The people that don’t have any version of these champions are punished more or less having to do five times the fights as the lucky ones that have gotten them.

    Again rewarding people that win from the RNG crystal drop rates and punish the ones who don’t have the account types to get these champions is an example of what is wrong with the game meta currently.

    When your account gets the same champions over an over again not rewarding new champions then these events come by is a slap in the face to many players in the community. I guess “shame on you” for not having good game RNG.

    I agree 1000%! In fact, I think they should make uncollected eq easier so as not to punish those who dont have strong champs.
    If you can't handle EQUC you shouldn't be Uncollected
    So what if a player can finish uc sometimes but not others?
    Does that mean they shouldn't be uncollected?
  • OmegaManOmegaMan Member Posts: 383 ★★★
    edited June 2019
    Love the fanboyism’s. I never said I didn’t like the event, I do. Yes having to do 115 fights with a 6* versus 25 fights with any version of a new champ does suck when you don’t have one of those new champs needed to get it.

    Yes there were days in the event when I was working 12-14 hours a day and couldn’t put in 115 fights but could have gotten 25 in. My bad for not wanting to put in the “effort”

    For the argument of “there’s always arena”, not everyone that grinds arena gets the champion in that arena. Arena is a whole other issue in the game. Unless you are a top select few that still takes several hours a day then you don’t get them.

    Not saying anyone’s glorious efforts or rewards should be nerfed but it would be a 100 percent better game if you can obtain things in this game from skill instead of having to grind unhealthily for 12-14 hours a day to even have a chance of getting things. Kabam methodology for game content is 100% what is wrong with gaming today.

    This game has become so expensive, so unhealthy, and so stressful for many OTHERS that it’s a problem. People that have followed the game because they love marvel and their heroes are at a point to where they hate the game and are leaving by the thousands.

    Unlike many in this thread I tried looking at this from EVERYONES point of view not stuck in my own little world and game like some of the comments above.
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