Alliance Wars - Defense Tactics and Rewards Update Discussion Thread

Kabam Miike

Summoners!

Defense Tactics are coming to Alliance Wars Season 11, and bring along the rewards update you've all been waiting for! Check out the Announcement Here.

Then come back to this thread to discuss your thoughts on the upcoming changes!

Tehsigzorz

Not the rework I was hoping for tbh

Raganator

I'm underwhelmed.

Shoaib_sc

So, can metal champs be armor shattered?

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V1PER1987

There’s still a huge variance in the alliance season reward crystals. Why does there have to be such a huge range?

Madman_marvin

Parity in the war season crystal is ridiculous. 1500-32k t2a shards is way too big a spread.

Forward

With the introduction of these buffs based on champion tags we really need a way to filter them now more than ever.

Also unless win rewards are buffed greatly, they still seem pretty meh. Any word on victory crystals being updated?

LibertyPrimeV1

TL;DR
July 17th is when Base War Rewards will be Buffed, and July 31st is when Season War Rewards will be Buffed.

Buttehrs

At least the t5cc crystals have good parity. Itl just take 10 years to form a T2a from those crystals lol

jnikolas92

Few questions here @Kabam Miike

- are there changes being made to the AW Victory and Challenger crystals?
- I'm assuming and hoping that defender diversity is still IN
- any chance on a breakdown of individual win/loss rewards?

DiablosUltimate

Well for one I'm happy that there is still no reason to play war

Kabam Miike

Forward said:

With the introduction of these buffs based on champion tags we really need a way to filter them now more than ever.

Also unless win rewards are buffed greatly, they still seem pretty meh. Any word on victory crystals being updated?

We've let the team know that this is a desired feature in game. In the meantime, you should check out auntm.ai. It's a great tool created by a very talented member of the Community and features some Tag filtering tools.

The Win/Loss crystals have not been updated yet. That may be in a future rewards update.

-sixate-

Nothing worth getting serious about AW, thanks Kabam!

Kabam Miike

jnikolas92 said:

Few questions here @Kabam Miike

- are there changes being made to the AW Victory and Challenger crystals?
- I'm assuming and hoping that defender diversity is still IN
- any chance on a breakdown of individual win/loss rewards?

Just mentioned in another Comment, but no changes to Victory or Challenger Crystals yet. Diversity is still in, and unfortunately we won't be sharing that early because of how much information and variables there are.

SparkAlot

Yeah, if this is what Kabam thinks will win people over for AW, they aren't taking feedback seriously.

You get a whole 1 T4b for being in Silver 2 - Gold 1? What is up with that? 1? You can grind out 2 in T4b arena 12 times and get 24 T4b, so, it should be at least 5 T4b.

Oh well, another season don't have to play AW. Thanks Kabam!

Dhops

What are the t5cc percentages? 25% or 2%?

Kabam Miike

SparkAlot said:

Yeah, if this is what Kabam thinks will win people over for AW, they aren't taking feedback seriously.

You get a whole 1 T4b for being in Silver 2 - Gold 1? What is up with that? 1? You can grind out 2 in T4b arena 12 times and get 24 T4b, so, it should be at least 5 T4b.

Oh well, another season don't have to play AW. Thanks Kabam!

This mode is in addition to all of the other modes people play, and does not replace the rewards you get from other Areas of the game. It does not have to be more than what you can earn in other areas.

Kabam Miike

Dhops said:

What are the t5cc percentages? 25% or 2%?

2% Crystals are the regular crystals and what you're going to be seeing around the Contest for the most part.

bpunk88

Still no solutions for officers/leaders to manage defense? Shameful

Season crystals are a joke, too wide of a range of *possible* rewards. Gold 3 players can potentially make out better than Master level with season crystals

Buttehrs

bpunk88 said:

Still no solutions for officers/leaders to manage defense? Shameful

Season crystals are a joke, too wide of a range of *possible* rewards. Gold 3 players can potentially make out better than Master level with season crystals

They should be broken up into tier crystals master platinum gold etc with thier own amounts of sharss possible but not more than the next higher tier

Gregdagr8

Why are the values not given? Does it vary based on what tier war you are in? Can we get the values, that's a huge piece of information that we need now to start ranking up for next season.

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Kabam Miike

Gregdagr8 said:

Why are the values not given? Does it vary based on what tier war you are in? Can we get the values, that's a huge piece of information that we need now to start ranking up for next season.

The values for the Defense Tactics are still undergoing their final tuning. Unfortunately, they won't be available until they're live in game. Additionally, the off-season will be used to measure if any need to be adjusted, so they may change again before the season begins.

bpunk88

Eddins said:

Please tell me the war victory crystal got buffed?

I'm guessing 3 x T5 class ISO instead of 2..

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Kobster84

Seriously rewards are stupid underwhelming for the difficulty increase

SparkAlot

Kabam Miike said:

SparkAlot said:

Yeah, if this is what Kabam thinks will win people over for AW, they aren't taking feedback seriously.

You get a whole 1 T4b for being in Silver 2 - Gold 1? What is up with that? 1? You can grind out 2 in T4b arena 12 times and get 24 T4b, so, it should be at least 5 T4b.

Oh well, another season don't have to play AW. Thanks Kabam!

This mode is in addition to all of the other modes people play, and does not replace the rewards you get from other Areas of the game. It does not have to be more than what you can earn in other areas.

Right, but, since AW is so stressful, requiring people to use pots & revives & boosts, to only end up with 1 T4b for the Silver 2 - Gold 1 (Which I assume the vast majority of the people fall into) that is no way worth even participating.

The rewards should reflect what people put into the whole season, (pots & revives & boosts & units) and what is listed shows that Kabam is out of touch with reality.

My example is just meant to show that you can get double the amount of T4b, with 0 stress, 0 pots, 0 revives & 0 units, just boredom.

So, why should people play AW if what they put in doesn't even come close to what they get out of it?

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benshb

The variance in alliance war season crystals are ridiculous...again. Someone can get 4500 shard from 3 crystal which is 1/8 of a full t2a, while others could get 3 full t2a. It's 24 times more reward from the same crystals. And you keep talking about how hoarding imbalances the game, right?

cab55

bpunk88 said:

Season crystals are a joke, too wide of a range of *possible* rewards. Gold 3 players can potentially make out better than Master level with season crystals

This is exactly the biggest problem of the wars right now
On the previous season, I saw a youtuber picking 20k shards of T2 Alpha in just 2 crystals after ending gold 2
Meanwhile, I got 12k from more crystals after ending platinum 2.

How is this possible?
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