What War Rating Place Tier 1 ?

IcejrIcejr Member Posts: 431 ★★★
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We Have Our Alliance War Ratings 3072
And Still We Didn't Tier 1 ,
I am so confused why we are still tier 2 with War Rating 3072 ?

Can help About That

@Kabam Miike
@Kabam Vydious

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  • IcejrIcejr Member Posts: 431 ★★★
    Here is our alliance details if need for any investigation by @Kabam Miike
    @Kabam Vydious

    Thank you in advance


  • SiriusBreakSiriusBreak Member, Guardian Posts: 2,156 Guardian
    It's done by percentages. Tier 1 is the top .1% of Alliances. Having a 3k War Rating may not be enough anymore. It all hinges on how many Alliances with War ratings exist in general. That directly impacts the tier system. I don't know what the cutoff for T1 is, but apparently it's higher than 3,072 as of right now.

    This inevitably fluctuates due to the ever changing war ratings. There will never be a stagnant cutoff number for any tier as a result. Honestly, it has been constantly inflating. Back in Season 3 our group hit T3 with an 1800 war rating. Here we are in Season 10 with 2300-2400 war rating, and are in T4 just to give some perspective on how this is constantly on the rise.
  • arni2arni2 Member Posts: 362 ★★
    Platinum 1 rank 7 is not top 1% then I don't know what is. This basically killed our chances to hit master bracket because t2 wars just don't give us enough points :(
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    arni2 said:

    Platinum 1 rank 7 is not top 1% then I don't know what is. This basically killed our chances to hit master bracket because t2 wars just don't give us enough points :(

    It’s actuallt top 0.1% so might just have missed the cut
  • CliffordcanCliffordcan Member Posts: 1,341 ★★★★
    arni2 said:

    Platinum 1 rank 7 is not top 1% then I don't know what is. This basically killed our chances to hit master bracket because t2 wars just don't give us enough points :(

    Sorry, but you are confused. Season points and ranking in a season is completely independent of War Rating and tier (except for multiplier). Your War Rating determines your tier. Your tier determines your multiplier. Your score, based on points in each war add up and you go onto the leaderboard.
  • IcejrIcejr Member Posts: 431 ★★★
    Take a look
    Those screen shoot saying they ar in master bracket with those Ratings ,
    Our ratings are same like them but didnt incresed multiplier or tier
    Cliffordcan said:

    arni2 said:

    Platinum 1 rank 7 is not top 1% then I don't know what is. This basically killed our chances to hit master bracket because t2 wars just don't give us enough points :(

    Sorry, but you are confused. Season points and ranking in a season is completely independent of War Rating and tier (except for multiplier). Your War Rating determines your tier. Your tier determines your multiplier. Your score, based on points in each war add up and you go onto the leaderboard.



  • IcejrIcejr Member Posts: 431 ★★★
    Here is Ours

  • IcejrIcejr Member Posts: 431 ★★★
    Any help @Kabam Miike please
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    It’s quite simply not enough rating for t1
  • SiriusBreakSiriusBreak Member, Guardian Posts: 2,156 Guardian
    They could've just as easily lost their last war and in turn, fell into T2 due to the loss of war rating points @IceSnow . They've probably maintained T1 for a bit now, hence their score. Looks like you're on the cusp, dancing close to T1, but still in T2. As previously mentioned, it's the top 0.01% pertaining to war rating.

    To figure out how many slots in T1 are available, you'd need to know how many Alliances there are. Go check out the Alliance Leaderboard in regards to War Rating. There's Alliances with higher war ratings that are in lower reward tiers. Some clearly are inactive this Season. Others probably aren't giving it their all. Just the same, they're in T1 because of the war rating.

    As of right now the highest War Rating is 3,497, held by MNG. Yet, they're lower in the points standings than your Alliance is. Same with MMXIV. Higher war rating, lower in the point standings. Proves the multiplier only does so much. Gotta win a LOT with T1 multiplier to get into Master. So, unfortunately your war rating isn't high enough due too the very limited number of slots T1 has.
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  • DTMelodicMetalDTMelodicMetal Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    You may have matched a tier 2 alliance. War points multiplier can be decided by RNG when 2 different tier alliances are matched.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,554 ★★★★★
    Cliffordcan said:

    arni2 said:

    Platinum 1 rank 7 is not top 1% then I don't know what is. This basically killed our chances to hit master bracket because t2 wars just don't give us enough points :(

    Sorry, but you are confused. Season points and ranking in a season is completely independent of War Rating and tier (except for multiplier). Your War Rating determines your tier. Your tier determines your multiplier. Your score, based on points in each war add up and you go onto the leaderboard.
    This is correct. Seasons are a competition of Points. From beginning to end, your Rank is determined by the Points you accumulate. It's kind of like an Arena Leaderboard.
    Your Tier is determined by your War Rating, and that entirely depends on who else has what War Rating. You earn so many War Rating Points, you go up in Tiers. Your Tier determines your Multiplier, and that determines how many Points you earn. Bit confusing, but it's two independent systems that feed into each other.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,554 ★★★★★
    SiriusBreak said:

    They could've just as easily lost their last war and in turn, fell into T2 due to the loss of war rating points @IceSnow . They've probably maintained T1 for a bit now, hence their score. Looks like you're on the cusp, dancing close to T1, but still in T2. As previously mentioned, it's the top 0.01% pertaining to war rating.

    To figure out how many slots in T1 are available, you'd need to know how many Alliances there are. Go check out the Alliance Leaderboard in regards to War Rating. There's Alliances with higher war ratings that are in lower reward tiers. Some clearly are inactive this Season. Others probably aren't giving it their all. Just the same, they're in T1 because of the war rating.

    As of right now the highest War Rating is 3,497, held by MNG. Yet, they're lower in the points standings than your Alliance is. Same with MMXIV. Higher war rating, lower in the point standings. Proves the multiplier only does so much. Gotta win a LOT with T1 multiplier to get into Master. So, unfortunately your war rating isn't high enough due too the very limited number of slots T1 has.

    Also, it's possible to win the War and go down in Tiers. Happened to us this Season. Still thinking of the cause. Perhaps others finishing with more Points than us. Definitely wasn't a docking of any kind.
  • Markjv81Markjv81 Member Posts: 1,029 ★★★★
    DTMelodicMetal said:

    You may have matched a tier 2 alliance. War points multiplier can be decided by RNG when 2 different tier alliances are matched.

    Since when? The map is RNG yeah but the multiplier is based on your current tier not what map you’re playing.
  • IcejrIcejr Member Posts: 431 ★★★
    @DTMelodicMetal Yup bro
    We found a our last match with tier 2 alliance 😞
    DTMelodicMetal said:

    You may have matched a tier 2 alliance. War points multiplier can be decided by RNG when 2 different tier alliances are matched.

  • IcejrIcejr Member Posts: 431 ★★★
    @Markjv81 thats why We all Confuse How actually its works 😞

    Markjv81 said:

    DTMelodicMetal said:

    You may have matched a tier 2 alliance. War points multiplier can be decided by RNG when 2 different tier alliances are matched.

    Since when? The map is RNG yeah but the multiplier is based on your current tier not what map you’re playing.
  • Markjv81Markjv81 Member Posts: 1,029 ★★★★
    IceSnow said:

    @Markjv81 thats why We all Confuse How actually its works 😞



    Markjv81 said:

    DTMelodicMetal said:

    You may have matched a tier 2 alliance. War points multiplier can be decided by RNG when 2 different tier alliances are matched.

    Since when? The map is RNG yeah but the multiplier is based on your current tier not what map you’re playing.
    This is a completely seperate issue to what you’re saying in the original post though. You are in tier 2 simply because you don’t make tier 1 cut off, season points and ranking have no bearing on tier.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    IceSnow said:

    We Have Our Alliance War Ratings 3072
    And Still We Didn't Tier 1 ,
    I am so confused why we are still tier 2 with War Rating 3072 ?

    Can help About That

    @Kabam Miike
    @Kabam Vydious

    You don't need help from Miike or other mods. The threshold has gone up. We are 3073 and tier 2 atm. Probably very close to tier 1 but not tier 1.
  • IcejrIcejr Member Posts: 431 ★★★
    Its not all about season points
    I am talking about our War Ratings With different tier

    I remember we were tier 1 season 9 just with 2967+ ratings where in season 10 we still tier 2 with 3072 😞
    Markjv81 said:

    IceSnow said:

    @Markjv81 thats why We all Confuse How actually its works 😞



    Markjv81 said:

    DTMelodicMetal said:

    You may have matched a tier 2 alliance. War points multiplier can be decided by RNG when 2 different tier alliances are matched.

    Since when? The map is RNG yeah but the multiplier is based on your current tier not what map you’re playing.
    This is a completely seperate issue to what you’re saying in the original post though. You are in tier 2 simply because you don’t make tier 1 cut off, season points and ranking have no bearing on tier.
  • Markjv81Markjv81 Member Posts: 1,029 ★★★★
    IceSnow said:

    Its not all about season points
    I am talking about our War Ratings With different tier

    I remember we were tier 1 season 9 just with 2967+ ratings where in season 10 we still tier 2 with 3072 😞

    Markjv81 said:

    IceSnow said:

    @Markjv81 thats why We all Confuse How actually its works 😞



    Markjv81 said:

    DTMelodicMetal said:

    You may have matched a tier 2 alliance. War points multiplier can be decided by RNG when 2 different tier alliances are matched.

    Since when? The map is RNG yeah but the multiplier is based on your current tier not what map you’re playing.
    This is a completely seperate issue to what you’re saying in the original post though. You are in tier 2 simply because you don’t make tier 1 cut off, season points and ranking have no bearing on tier.
    Obviously war ratings are increasing all the time, at one point 2200 was enough to be tier 1.
  • KpatrixKpatrix Member Posts: 1,055 ★★★
    Check the leaderboards, there are at least 4 alliances that are no longer active or filled with low level accounts in the top 25 where the OP resides.
    This is one of the biggest issues we have with tiers, they include all alliances ever to achieve a rating.
  • IcejrIcejr Member Posts: 431 ★★★
    Agree bro
    Hope @Kabam Miike remove those alliance from leaderboard and calculate rest Active alliances who trying hard for there goal

    Kpatrix said:

    Check the leaderboards, there are at least 4 alliances that are no longer active or filled with low level accounts in the top 25 where the OP resides.
    This is one of the biggest issues we have with tiers, they include all alliances ever to achieve a rating.

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