Newer champs hit way too hard

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  • ErkErk Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2019
    The game is constantly changing and evolving, it is only right that champs keep getting better. obviously champs that were released back in the day will have a harder time in today's meta against things, korgs, dominos, certain nodes, etc. Also champs hitting hard why is that bad, it makes life easier and it is fun seeing big numbers. If everyone had the same damage out put the game wouldn't be that fun.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    @Gamer cull can destroy opponents with over 500k health in 30-40 hits. Nodes don’t restrict him that much yet

    Nodes don't restrict him? Lol. You've obviously never even used him. Debuff immune, armor break immune champs, masochism, buffet, any DoT node, biohazard, freezer burn, stun immune, etc... That's not even getting into a lot of the act 6 nodes but there's a plethora of nodes that make him horrible to use.

    If you guys are gonna moan about something stupid, you should probably have at least a slight idea what you're talking about.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    @X_Scott cull destroys 6.2. There are vids out there. Also I can’t beat 6.2 until I can get past 6.1, and considering I don’t have any bleed immunes for CB, I have to rely on luck with domino to beat him

    No he absolutely doesn't. He works for a select few paths and that's about it. If you haven't even played the content you probably shouldn't be making ridiculous statements about it
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Ahitlaw said:
    That's RoL no tricky nodes, no sp3 to worry about, it's just standard parry heavy click bait numbers that have you guys all bent out of shape bc you don't even understand that the finite amount of space that works in end game content is minimal at best.

    Also he's bugged. He's not even working right. You're seriously upset about a bugged champ that will no longer work like that soon.

    People complain that kabam doesn't listen to the player base enough but man this forum makes me happy they don't in a lot of instances bc you lot haven't got a clue sometimes
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Zuro said:

    Kobster84 said:

    Ahitlaw said:

    Ahitlaw said:
    Last champ that was able to kill him in 8 hits that quick he got nerfed. I’m sure you know who I’m talking about.
    Cull right now is bugged can’t really go off that video
    Didn't the bug get fixed already
    The fix broke him again guys jesus
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    @Lormif your point? 10k bleeds are nothing compared to hitting over 120k on a single special and absolutely annihilating opponents. People who don’t have culls and namors have a disadvantage

    Say what? a 10k PER TICK bleed that can stack up to 3 times is "nothing"? And no you are not at a disadvantage, you dont play player vs player.
  • AhitlawAhitlaw Member Posts: 2,123 ★★★★

    Ahitlaw said:
    That's RoL no tricky nodes, no sp3 to worry about, it's just standard parry heavy click bait numbers that have you guys all bent out of shape bc you don't even understand that the finite amount of space that works in end game content is minimal at best.

    Also he's bugged. He's not even working right. You're seriously upset about a bugged champ that will no longer work like that soon.

    People complain that kabam doesn't listen to the player base enough but man this forum makes me happy they don't in a lot of instances bc you lot haven't got a clue sometimes
    Sir.. are you stupid? That was over 500k damage within 10 seconds,doesn’t matter where it is that’s destroying anybody on any nodes.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Ahitlaw said:

    Ahitlaw said:
    That's RoL no tricky nodes, no sp3 to worry about, it's just standard parry heavy click bait numbers that have you guys all bent out of shape bc you don't even understand that the finite amount of space that works in end game content is minimal at best.

    Also he's bugged. He's not even working right. You're seriously upset about a bugged champ that will no longer work like that soon.

    People complain that kabam doesn't listen to the player base enough but man this forum makes me happy they don't in a lot of instances bc you lot haven't got a clue sometimes
    Sir.. are you stupid? That was over 500k damage within 10 seconds,doesn’t matter where it is that’s destroying anybody on any nodes.
    It 100% matters. I have a 5/65 Cull that I've brought to act 6 out of curiosity, check the bug thread. It's insanely inefficient to ramp him in a huge percentage of it bc of the nodes. I suggest you A: have the champion before you start spouting off and B: have used said champion in end game content

  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    If you've never played anything other than act 4 or a few act 5 paths I could see where you're coming from but end game content nodes are far more complex as far as what champions are viable options for them. I'm not gonna resort to personal attacks but if you don't understand that, it's maybe you that should take a minute and think a bit about what's actually happening
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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    you can always go after him if you think it is absurd, but it is clearly intentional, plus he has no utility.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    Who is saying he isn't broken? If you look in the bug thread it's a bunch of people saying he's broken. Youtubers are saying he's broken. There's a large difference between this champ is broken and, you can beat anything in the game with this champ
  • AhitlawAhitlaw Member Posts: 2,123 ★★★★

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    Who is saying he isn't broken? If you look in the bug thread it's a bunch of people saying he's broken. Youtubers are saying he's broken. There's a large difference between this champ is broken and, you can beat anything in the game with this champ
    Lmao. Ur trying so hard to defend your cull. He’s broken, needs nerfed. Deal with it, your argument is pathetic.
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★

    OP sounding a bit whiney and Kobster, how do you know for sure it’s a bug? Did Kabam already confirm?

    It’s pretty obvious he’s getting way too much attack bonus then what the stats show pretty much doing like 5 timed damage at 10 thanos favor when it should only be double
  • AhitlawAhitlaw Member Posts: 2,123 ★★★★
    Kobster84 said:

    OP sounding a bit whiney and Kobster, how do you know for sure it’s a bug? Did Kabam already confirm?

    It’s pretty obvious he’s getting way too much attack bonus then what the stats show pretty much doing like 5 timed damage at 10 thanos favor when it should only be double
    I’m sure they’ll fix him
  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Ahitlaw said:

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    Who is saying he isn't broken? If you look in the bug thread it's a bunch of people saying he's broken. Youtubers are saying he's broken. There's a large difference between this champ is broken and, you can beat anything in the game with this champ
    Lmao. Ur trying so hard to defend your cull. He’s broken, needs nerfed. Deal with it, your argument is pathetic.
    you really need to stop attacking people, that is a sure fire way to get threads shut down.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Ahitlaw said:

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    Who is saying he isn't broken? If you look in the bug thread it's a bunch of people saying he's broken. Youtubers are saying he's broken. There's a large difference between this champ is broken and, you can beat anything in the game with this champ
    Lmao. Ur trying so hard to defend your cull. He’s broken, needs nerfed. Deal with it, your argument is pathetic.
    Are you even reading what I've posted? Have you read my posts in the bug forum?

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/149992/insane-cull-obsidian-damage#latest

    I've said he's obviously bugged. I'm just saying some of you guys ridiculous hyperbole going from he's bugged to someone could 100% all game content with him is absurd is all. I have him, have had him since release, he's definitely not working as he did at release, I'm fine with him being reverted to his original state (if they fix the fury duration after rout), and just want you guys to chill with the ridiculous hyperbole that's completely unfounded
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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    Who is saying he isn't broken? If you look in the bug thread it's a bunch of people saying he's broken. Youtubers are saying he's broken. There's a large difference between this champ is broken and, you can beat anything in the game with this champ
    If you can beat anything in the game with 1 Champion, it’s broken. There isn’t meant to be a “1 Size Fits All” Champion in this game. Even Ghost & Corvus have their bad matches. Cull has non, & can deal 1/2 a million Health in a couple combos.
    Except you cannot kill everything in the game with him. He has very little utility. Things that cause him to bleed, poison, evade, or anything else that can hider you will own him. In addition any node that strips his buffs will prevent his damage. Please have some knowledge of the end game before making these comments.
  • AhitlawAhitlaw Member Posts: 2,123 ★★★★

    Ahitlaw said:

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    Who is saying he isn't broken? If you look in the bug thread it's a bunch of people saying he's broken. Youtubers are saying he's broken. There's a large difference between this champ is broken and, you can beat anything in the game with this champ
    Lmao. Ur trying so hard to defend your cull. He’s broken, needs nerfed. Deal with it, your argument is pathetic.
    Are you even reading what I've posted? Have you read my posts in the bug forum?

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/149992/insane-cull-obsidian-damage#latest

    I've said he's obviously bugged. I'm just saying some of you guys ridiculous hyperbole going from he's bugged to someone could 100% all game content with him is absurd is all. I have him, have had him since release, he's definitely not working as he did at release, I'm fine with him being reverted to his original state (if they fix the fury duration after rout), and just want you guys to chill with the ridiculous hyperbole that's completely unfounded
    You saying he can’t beat everything in the game is absurd. He was perfectly fine before this bug. Nothing needs changed he just needs fixed.
  • AznkerbzAznkerbz Member Posts: 113
    Make new champs weaker and less interesting = less whale money but satisfy pennies in the pool of capitalism. Hmm... debatable?

    No one is spending $1000s trying to get Ebony Maw or Diablo...
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    Who is saying he isn't broken? If you look in the bug thread it's a bunch of people saying he's broken. Youtubers are saying he's broken. There's a large difference between this champ is broken and, you can beat anything in the game with this champ
    If you can beat anything in the game with 1 Champion, it’s broken. There isn’t meant to be a “1 Size Fits All” Champion in this game. Even Ghost & Corvus have their bad matches. Cull has non, & can deal 1/2 a million Health in a couple combos.
    Oh my God have you guys played anything outside of act 4? He has tons of horrible matchups even in his current state (which will obviously be fixed).
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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★

    Lormif said:

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    Who is saying he isn't broken? If you look in the bug thread it's a bunch of people saying he's broken. Youtubers are saying he's broken. There's a large difference between this champ is broken and, you can beat anything in the game with this champ
    If you can beat anything in the game with 1 Champion, it’s broken. There isn’t meant to be a “1 Size Fits All” Champion in this game. Even Ghost & Corvus have their bad matches. Cull has non, & can deal 1/2 a million Health in a couple combos.
    Except you cannot kill everything in the game with him. He has very little utility. Things that cause him to bleed, poison, evade, or anything else that can hider you will own him. In addition any node that strips his buffs will prevent his damage. Please have some knowledge of the end game before making these comments.
    Ohh really? Because it looks like he can take any Bleed/Poison Nodes. He can literally deal 500,000 Health in 15 seconds. That’s WAYYY faster than any Bleed/Poison node will kill you. Learn simple math, then comment 😂

    As for Evade, he has True Accuracy, preventing Evade & Auto-Block. Do you know anything about Cull??
    See you dont even know what you are talking about. He does not have to even worry about auto-block, he has has route so it ignores that, it seems you are just reading the spotlight without understanding all fo that..

    Even still he has to ramp up. Kinda hard to ramp up if you are dead from those nodes, or because he fought anything that prevents his buffs... Again, learn what you are speaking about.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    Lormif said:

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    Who is saying he isn't broken? If you look in the bug thread it's a bunch of people saying he's broken. Youtubers are saying he's broken. There's a large difference between this champ is broken and, you can beat anything in the game with this champ
    If you can beat anything in the game with 1 Champion, it’s broken. There isn’t meant to be a “1 Size Fits All” Champion in this game. Even Ghost & Corvus have their bad matches. Cull has non, & can deal 1/2 a million Health in a couple combos.
    Except you cannot kill everything in the game with him. He has very little utility. Things that cause him to bleed, poison, evade, or anything else that can hider you will own him. In addition any node that strips his buffs will prevent his damage. Please have some knowledge of the end game before making these comments.
    Ohh really? Because it looks like he can take any Bleed/Poison Nodes. He can literally deal 500,000 Health in 15 seconds. That’s WAYYY faster than any Bleed/Poison node will kill you. Learn simple math, then comment 😂

    As for Evade, he has True Accuracy, preventing Evade & Auto-Block. Do you know anything about Cull??
    He has true accuracy 5 charges. Give him a spry path on fight 1 against a heavy evade champ and he's done.

    You guys really need to learn to read and comprehend better
  • AznkerbzAznkerbz Member Posts: 113

    https://youtu.be/Dgb7Xay-yM4
    There is NO WAY this isn’t completely broken. This damage is nuts, & I honestly don’t think it’s intended. Ghost is one thing, & requires a lot of skill & Synergies to play well. But this is simply absurd. Watch the video & feel free to explain to me otherwise...

    Who is saying he isn't broken? If you look in the bug thread it's a bunch of people saying he's broken. Youtubers are saying he's broken. There's a large difference between this champ is broken and, you can beat anything in the game with this champ
    If you can beat anything in the game with 1 Champion, it’s broken. There isn’t meant to be a “1 Size Fits All” Champion in this game. Even Ghost & Corvus have their bad matches. Cull has non, & can deal 1/2 a million Health in a couple combos.
    Oh my God have you guys played anything outside of act 4? He has tons of horrible matchups even in his current state (which will obviously be fixed).
    Clearly, this guy hasnt taken Cull against Act 6.2.1 Symobiote Supreme. Within a millisecond of entering battle, I was hit with 15k damage.
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  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    He also can't deal 500k in 15 sec especially on fight one. It took me around 27 sec to kill RoL Hulk at 10 charges.

    There's basically no one arguing that he isn't broken, just that he can't beat anything even remotely easily even in his current state. This is the problem with click bait YouTube videos, it skews the perception of people who either don't have the champion at all or are not far along enough in the game to realize what type of nodes are present
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