You're idea of a game is unsustainable. Kabam figured that out with catalysts and they haven't with gold either.
Actually, sustainability is the issue. Game designers must balance scarcity with the pace of game development. It is not a question of Kabam simply being ignorant of the fact that catalysts were hard to get until we told them, and now they are simply oblivious to the scarcity of gold so we have to inform them again. I'm sure they are aware. As mentioned previously, it is impossible to eliminate scarcity completely. You can only move it around. For some players, increasing catalyst availability has moved the bottleneck to gold. It is unlikely this was entirely unanticipated, or is it something the devs are likely to try to immediately address. They will only move the problem somewhere else, and they can't keep spiraling upwards indefinitely. Rather, at somewhat irregular and arbitrary points in the development schedule they will evaluate the balance of resources across the entire playerbase, and decide if they want to ratchet upward any particular resource, like gold. If, at that time, gold is seen as an important resource to adjust, they'll do it then. I don't think they see scarcity as a problem because it always exists, so reporting scarcity is unlikely to be convincing.
That's different from asserting that the gold rewards for higher content should be revisited because they are not scaling properly with difficulty. That argument can be made without any mention of scarcity. But scarcity alone rarely means something all by itself, because the developers are almost certainly of the opinion that scarcity is at least in part intentional. Which is why I think the important question which has to be answered is why *this* particular scarcity is especially meaningful. Articulating that it exists or why it exists or who it affects is probably not going to matter. The only thing that is likely to matter is someone who can make a case for why this scarcity should be treated special.
The premise that the devs are unaware and have to be taught, or only make changes when enough people complain about the scarcity of a resource, is I'm pretty sure a false premise. Arguments based on that assumption will therefore always fail. I'd recommend discarding that premise. If I was a developer for this game, I would want someone to explain to me why I should adjust gold rewards when doing so will only create another bottleneck someone else would be begging me to address. I would want to know when that train of requests end.
You're idea of a game is unsustainable. Kabam figured that out with catalysts and they haven't with gold either.
Actually, sustainability is the issue. Game designers must balance scarcity with the pace of game development. It is not a question of Kabam simply being ignorant of the fact that catalysts were hard to get until we told them, and now they are simply oblivious to the scarcity of gold so we have to inform them again. I'm sure they are aware. As mentioned previously, it is impossible to eliminate scarcity completely. You can only move it around. For some players, increasing catalyst availability has moved the bottleneck to gold. It is unlikely this was entirely unanticipated, or is it something the devs are likely to try to immediately address. They will only move the problem somewhere else, and they can't keep spiraling upwards indefinitely. Rather, at somewhat irregular and arbitrary points in the development schedule they will evaluate the balance of resources across the entire playerbase, and decide if they want to ratchet upward any particular resource, like gold. If, at that time, gold is seen as an important resource to adjust, they'll do it then. I don't think they see scarcity as a problem because it always exists, so reporting scarcity is unlikely to be convincing.
That's different from asserting that the gold rewards for higher content should be revisited because they are not scaling properly with difficulty. That argument can be made without any mention of scarcity. But scarcity alone rarely means something all by itself, because the developers are almost certainly of the opinion that scarcity is at least in part intentional. Which is why I think the important question which has to be answered is why *this* particular scarcity is especially meaningful. Articulating that it exists or why it exists or who it affects is probably not going to matter. The only thing that is likely to matter is someone who can make a case for why this scarcity should be treated special.
The premise that the devs are unaware and have to be taught, or only make changes when enough people complain about the scarcity of a resource, is I'm pretty sure a false premise. Arguments based on that assumption will therefore always fail. I'd recommend discarding that premise. If I was a developer for this game, I would want someone to explain to me why I should adjust gold rewards when doing so will only create another bottleneck someone else would be begging me to address. I would want to know when that train of requests end.
Good lord dude, I'm not a student in a literature class. It sounds like you just learned the word premise and reallllly want to use it. Thanks for the advice on my "premise", which wasn't actually a premise at all as it was not the basis for literally any argument I have made. It was a figure of speech. I give up on these forums, it has completely devolved to people either showing off, trolling, or trying to sound smart. Kabam will figure out whether or not the game needs gold, I don't care anymore. If I still can't get gold in a couple months than I find a different game. Good god.
Nowhere have I ever seen a Kabam Employee state that "5* are the future".
I'm pretty sure that's something only players say. But I think it is more important to note that whether Kabam has ever said this or not is mostly irrelevant, because it is a mostly meaningless statement. 5* champions are here now. They are the present. But the rarity of t2 alphas and the complete non-existence of t5 basics says that the exclusive preeminence of 5* champions has not yet arrived and has no scheduled arrival date.
To put it another way, saying 5* champions are the future is not much different than saying 6* champions are the future.
A R3 5* costs less catalysts and has a higher base attack and health than R5 4*. It is very different than saying 6*, which don't even exist, are the future. Further, 5* awakened abilities go further than their 4* counter parts. But, as is the topic of this thread, cost WAY more gold.
I don't think you understood my point. I specifically stated that 5* champions already exist now, so the meaning of "5* champs are the future" cannot mean "eventually we will have them" because we have them now. It is normally meant to imply that in the future 5* champions will make 4* champions completely obsolete. But your statements about the advantages of 5* champs over 4* champs in the general case don't make the case that 5* champs make 4* champs obsolete now. They could possibly in the future but that's a future with a lot of changes to the present, and thus "5* champs are the future" doesn't say anything about how the game should operate in the present. It is in that sense that saying 5* champs are the future is no different than saying 6* champs are the future: both statements refer to a future in which the game has to be structurally very different from what it is today, and thus says little or nothing about how the game should work today. Those statements refer to a game that doesn't exist yet.
I play very high up and still have over 30 million gold. I am over 500000 rating so I do rank up everyone. the payout of gold is obviously acceptable if people have so much overflow. The problem that some people are short on gold is real but you should be discussing why your short. Bc people are telling you why they have so much. Gold is like any resource it needs to be farmed it just can't be handed out.
I play very high up and still have over 30 million gold. I am over 500000 rating so I do rank up everyone. the payout of gold is obviously acceptable if people have so much overflow. The problem that some people are short on gold is real but you should be discussing why your short. Bc people are telling you why they have so much. Gold is like any resource it needs to be farmed it just can't be handed out.
It's no use opening crystals, I just save if I ever have an emergency. I don't think I will. I even donate my whole alliances gold every so often, that's 5 million for a week
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
My evidence is anecdotal as is virtually all evidence on this forum. The percentage of players represented on this forum is very low as evidenced by the same people commenting on most threads. The complaints about having no gold are constantly started by the same players and commented on by the same players.
I am in a top tier alliance. Having ranked in the top 5 for AQ. Having been in the top 10 for War Rating. I play with and against those at the very top of this game. They don't complain about a shortage of gold. They complain about a shortage of tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas.
Now, this is just my experience so yes it is anecdotal. But I never see guys from this level complaining about a shortage of gold.
I am against increasing the supply of gold. I think the supply of gold is well balanced with other resources and should stay that way.
All things come in their time. I need a lot more tier 4 basics. I have about 50 tier 4 class catalysts just sitting around and millions in gold. But, kabam controls that commodity just like they do the gold. I'll progress as I can get more
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
My evidence is anecdotal as is virtually all evidence on this forum. The percentage of players represented on this forum is very low as evidenced by the same people commenting on most threads. The complaints about having no gold are constantly started by the same players and commented on by the same players.
I am in a top tier alliance. Having ranked in the top 5 for AQ. Having been in the top 10 for War Rating. I play with and against those at the very top of this game. They don't complain about a shortage of gold. They complain about a shortage of tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas.
Now, this is just my experience so yes it is anecdotal. But I never see guys from this level complaining about a shortage of gold.
I am against increasing the supply of gold. I think the supply of gold is well balanced with other resources and should stay that way.
All things come in their time. I need a lot more tier 4 basics. I have about 50 tier 4 class catalysts just sitting around and millions in gold. But, kabam controls that commodity just like they do the gold. I'll progress as I can get more
I personally think the basic supply is fine FOR ME, but if Kabam tells me they considering increasing T4b, I would damn sure support it. That's the difference between you and me. Gotta think outside the scope of your own account. Or don't. It's true, you don't have to, that's just how I feel.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
I'd say I'm here a fair amount. It's not as prevalent as you are claiming. In fact, the occasional Threads contain the same few people. The rest are people asking for Gold Realm to come back because it's an easy way to stockpile quickly. What we're telling you is it's manageable with effort, and you seem insistent on arguing with those of us that have it well under control.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
I'd say I'm here a fair amount. It's not as prevalent as you are claiming. In fact, the occasional Threads contain the same few people. The rest are people asking for Gold Realm to come back because it's an easy way to stockpile quickly. What we're telling you is it's manageable with effort, and you seem insistent on arguing with those of us that have it well under control.
Yes because on the other side of the table is the same 3 people who have such a ridiculous amount of gold due to simply playing an obscene amount. I could name all of you at this point because it's the same people too.
There's no point in us arguing anymore because you will never see my point, that part is abundantly clear. You just can't see beyond your own account.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
My evidence is anecdotal as is virtually all evidence on this forum. The percentage of players represented on this forum is very low as evidenced by the same people commenting on most threads. The complaints about having no gold are constantly started by the same players and commented on by the same players.
I am in a top tier alliance. Having ranked in the top 5 for AQ. Having been in the top 10 for War Rating. I play with and against those at the very top of this game. They don't complain about a shortage of gold. They complain about a shortage of tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas.
Now, this is just my experience so yes it is anecdotal. But I never see guys from this level complaining about a shortage of gold.
I am against increasing the supply of gold. I think the supply of gold is well balanced with other resources and should stay that way.
All things come in their time. I need a lot more tier 4 basics. I have about 50 tier 4 class catalysts just sitting around and millions in gold. But, kabam controls that commodity just like they do the gold. I'll progress as I can get more
I personally think the basic supply is fine FOR ME, but if Kabam tells me they considering increasing T4b, I would damn sure support it. That's the difference between you and me. Gotta think outside the scope of your own account. Or don't. It's true, you don't have to, that's just how I feel.
And that's fair. I'm not considering others needs. Or wants. I'm considering my own. Call me a jerk but I don't want others to so easily be able to get what took me forever to earn/accrue. That will unfairly close the gap between them and me causing it to be more difficult for me to be able to earn future rewards.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
My evidence is anecdotal as is virtually all evidence on this forum. The percentage of players represented on this forum is very low as evidenced by the same people commenting on most threads. The complaints about having no gold are constantly started by the same players and commented on by the same players.
I am in a top tier alliance. Having ranked in the top 5 for AQ. Having been in the top 10 for War Rating. I play with and against those at the very top of this game. They don't complain about a shortage of gold. They complain about a shortage of tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas.
Now, this is just my experience so yes it is anecdotal. But I never see guys from this level complaining about a shortage of gold.
I am against increasing the supply of gold. I think the supply of gold is well balanced with other resources and should stay that way.
All things come in their time. I need a lot more tier 4 basics. I have about 50 tier 4 class catalysts just sitting around and millions in gold. But, kabam controls that commodity just like they do the gold. I'll progress as I can get more
I personally think the basic supply is fine FOR ME, but if Kabam tells me they considering increasing T4b, I would damn sure support it. That's the difference between you and me. Gotta think outside the scope of your own account. Or don't. It's true, you don't have to, that's just how I feel.
And that's fair. I'm not considering others needs. Or wants. I'm considering my own. Call me a jerk but I don't want others to so easily be able to get what took me forever to earn/accrue. That will unfairly close the gap between them and me causing it to be more difficult for me to be able to earn future rewards.
I can respect that, and appreciate you admitting it. It's totally reasonable not to play the way I do. I would like to say though that I think everyone benefits from looking at other players, because that might be you one day. I used to be one of those people with way more gold I knew what to do with, I think I broke 20 mil once.
I could've expanded on the point but it's one that has been made many times before but allow me to since you think it was a troll. See Kabam knows about your alliance and thier reserves as well as every other alliance and individual player at all different levels through out the game. It is thier job and part of how they keep the game active. What you are saying is that you have a problem but are passing the buck because people in your limited circle also say the same thing. You do this while dismissing anyone who has a different experience than you and insulting anyone who disagrees with you and it's simply BS.
If you want gold put more time into the game the gold is there, Kabam doesn't want you to play the game less. Go ahead call me names, hurl insults and feed me those snowflake tears.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
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We have another one. This is especially egregious as his original point was anectdotal and the argument relies solely on it and cites more anecdotal evidence to try and squash the argument he calls anecdotal.
The number of threads started daily about gold pale in comparison to the number of threads not started. This of course ignores that the number of threads started daily is less than 1 but eh don't the facts get in the way.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
Cool, you have an echo chamber?
Look man, I know you get a kick out of trolling as is evident by your account information with well over 100 abuse and spam flags, but I actually care about this issue. It's pretty lame that you have hijacked yet another thread. Do you really care if other players have more chances for a resource? Do you really want to make sure they DON'T have hat opportunity because you're sitting on a mountain of wealth? Honestly dude. Just stop. You haven't contributed anything meaningful to this thread and chitlins was right to call you out on it at the start.
I could've expanded on the point but it's one that has been made many times before but allow me to since you think it was a troll. See Kabam knows about your alliance and thier reserves as well as every other alliance and individual player at all different levels through out the game. It is thier job and part of how they keep the game active. What you are saying is that you have a problem but are passing the buck because people in your limited circle also say the same thing. You do this while dismissing anyone who has a different experience than you and insulting anyone who disagrees with you and it's simply BS.
If you want gold put more time into the game the gold is there, Kabam doesn't want you to play the game less. Go ahead call me names, hurl insults and feed me those snowflake tears.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
Irony police,
We have another one. This is especially egregious as his original point was anectdotal and the argument relies solely on it and cites more anecdotal evidence to try and squash the argument he calls anecdotal.
The number of threads started daily about gold pale in comparison to the number of threads not started. This of course ignores that the number of threads started daily is less than 1 but eh don't the facts get in the way.
Yeah this is only the most popular thread right now and this is the second one I made in two days. The last one had to get deleted but miike told me to create a new one.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
Cool, you have an echo chamber?
Look man, I know you get a kick out of trolling as is evident by your account information with well over 100 abuse and spam flags, but I actually care about this issue. It's pretty lame that you have hijacked yet another thread. Do you really care if other players have more chances for a resource? Do you really want to make sure they DON'T have hat opportunity because you're sitting on a mountain of wealth? Honestly dude. Just stop. You haven't contributed anything meaningful to this thread and chitlins was right to call you out on it at the start.
I could've expanded on the point but it's one that has been made many times before but allow me to since you think it was a troll. See Kabam knows about your alliance and thier reserves as well as every other alliance and individual player at all different levels through out the game. It is thier job and part of how they keep the game active. What you are saying is that you have a problem but are passing the buck because people in your limited circle also say the same thing. You do this while dismissing anyone who has a different experience than you and insulting anyone who disagrees with you and it's simply BS.
If you want gold put more time into the game the gold is there, Kabam doesn't want you to play the game less. Go ahead call me names, hurl insults and feed me those snowflake tears.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
Irony police,
We have another one. This is especially egregious as his original point was anectdotal and the argument relies solely on it and cites more anecdotal evidence to try and squash the argument he calls anecdotal.
The number of threads started daily about gold pale in comparison to the number of threads not started. This of course ignores that the number of threads started daily is less than 1 but eh don't the facts get in the way.
Yeah this is only the most popular thread right now and this is the second one I made in two days. The last one had to get deleted but miike told me to create a new one.
The discussion must have some merit
What sucks is this one will probably have to get deleted too.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
Cool, you have an echo chamber?
Look man, I know you get a kick out of trolling as is evident by your account information with well over 100 abuse and spam flags, but I actually care about this issue. It's pretty lame that you have hijacked yet another thread. Do you really care if other players have more chances for a resource? Do you really want to make sure they DON'T have hat opportunity because you're sitting on a mountain of wealth? Honestly dude. Just stop. You haven't contributed anything meaningful to this thread and chitlins was right to call you out on it at the start.
I could've expanded on the point but it's one that has been made many times before but allow me to since you think it was a troll. See Kabam knows about your alliance and thier reserves as well as every other alliance and individual player at all different levels through out the game. It is thier job and part of how they keep the game active. What you are saying is that you have a problem but are passing the buck because people in your limited circle also say the same thing. You do this while dismissing anyone who has a different experience than you and insulting anyone who disagrees with you and it's simply BS.
If you want gold put more time into the game the gold is there, Kabam doesn't want you to play the game less. Go ahead call me names, hurl insults and feed me those snowflake tears.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
Irony police,
We have another one. This is especially egregious as his original point was anectdotal and the argument relies solely on it and cites more anecdotal evidence to try and squash the argument he calls anecdotal.
The number of threads started daily about gold pale in comparison to the number of threads not started. This of course ignores that the number of threads started daily is less than 1 but eh don't the facts get in the way.
Yeah this is only the most popular thread right now and this is the second one I made in two days. The last one had to get deleted but miike told me to create a new one.
The discussion must have some merit
I'm skeptical about whether gold as a resource has an overriding shortage that needs to be addressed, but I think a discussion about whether it does or not has some merit.
Don't feed the troll, just wait till a moderator actually starts moderating. Cmon @Kabam Miike this guy has more flags then everyone else in this thread combined. Let the discussion continue, @DNA3000 has some valid points
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
Cool, you have an echo chamber?
Look man, I know you get a kick out of trolling as is evident by your account information with well over 100 abuse and spam flags, but I actually care about this issue. It's pretty lame that you have hijacked yet another thread. Do you really care if other players have more chances for a resource? Do you really want to make sure they DON'T have hat opportunity because you're sitting on a mountain of wealth? Honestly dude. Just stop. You haven't contributed anything meaningful to this thread and chitlins was right to call you out on it at the start.
I could've expanded on the point but it's one that has been made many times before but allow me to since you think it was a troll. See Kabam knows about your alliance and thier reserves as well as every other alliance and individual player at all different levels through out the game. It is thier job and part of how they keep the game active. What you are saying is that you have a problem but are passing the buck because people in your limited circle also say the same thing. You do this while dismissing anyone who has a different experience than you and insulting anyone who disagrees with you and it's simply BS.
If you want gold put more time into the game the gold is there, Kabam doesn't want you to play the game less. Go ahead call me names, hurl insults and feed me those snowflake tears.
Once you reach a certain point in progression gold is no longer the issue. You have enough because you no longer have enough to rank to use it. Or, you can't get enough catalysts to rank up what you do have. Most players who are near 500k rating or above are short on tier 4 basic catalysts and have more than enough gold and tier 4 class catalysts to rank anyone they desire. Almost all of them have gone through the point in their progression where they faced a shortage of gold.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
Irony police,
We have another one. This is especially egregious as his original point was anectdotal and the argument relies solely on it and cites more anecdotal evidence to try and squash the argument he calls anecdotal.
The number of threads started daily about gold pale in comparison to the number of threads not started. This of course ignores that the number of threads started daily is less than 1 but eh don't the facts get in the way.
Yeah this is only the most popular thread right now and this is the second one I made in two days. The last one had to get deleted but miike told me to create a new one.
The discussion must have some merit
What sucks is this one will probably have to get deleted too.
To be fair, what gets Threads deleted is when it becomes personal and people are attacking each other. I've seen quite a bit. There is nothing wrong with healthy debate. Calling people Trolls and making things personal is not allowed. That's what closes Threads.
@GroundedWisdom how can you deny him being a troll, look at this guy
Have you seen my Profile? While we're on the subject, many people use the Flags to troll others. It's been abused since its inception. That's not a gauge to merit. It's best to base our judgments on the content of our comments. Further to that, it's not constructive to call people Trolls.
You can see every comment that got flagged, the abuse ones all look legitimate to me. You should consider yours as well. Sure, I bet some of those are wrongly placed but that's not like anyone else's here
If you can read the majority of the comments on my Profile and justify those as Abuse, I would suggest looking into what Abusive Behavior is.
So in a attempt to get this back on topic my view on it is while a gold arena would be nice there are still some days of getting gold and until we hit the point of every champ being in the five star crystal we prob won't see any revamp happen anytime soon
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Actually, sustainability is the issue. Game designers must balance scarcity with the pace of game development. It is not a question of Kabam simply being ignorant of the fact that catalysts were hard to get until we told them, and now they are simply oblivious to the scarcity of gold so we have to inform them again. I'm sure they are aware. As mentioned previously, it is impossible to eliminate scarcity completely. You can only move it around. For some players, increasing catalyst availability has moved the bottleneck to gold. It is unlikely this was entirely unanticipated, or is it something the devs are likely to try to immediately address. They will only move the problem somewhere else, and they can't keep spiraling upwards indefinitely. Rather, at somewhat irregular and arbitrary points in the development schedule they will evaluate the balance of resources across the entire playerbase, and decide if they want to ratchet upward any particular resource, like gold. If, at that time, gold is seen as an important resource to adjust, they'll do it then. I don't think they see scarcity as a problem because it always exists, so reporting scarcity is unlikely to be convincing.
That's different from asserting that the gold rewards for higher content should be revisited because they are not scaling properly with difficulty. That argument can be made without any mention of scarcity. But scarcity alone rarely means something all by itself, because the developers are almost certainly of the opinion that scarcity is at least in part intentional. Which is why I think the important question which has to be answered is why *this* particular scarcity is especially meaningful. Articulating that it exists or why it exists or who it affects is probably not going to matter. The only thing that is likely to matter is someone who can make a case for why this scarcity should be treated special.
The premise that the devs are unaware and have to be taught, or only make changes when enough people complain about the scarcity of a resource, is I'm pretty sure a false premise. Arguments based on that assumption will therefore always fail. I'd recommend discarding that premise. If I was a developer for this game, I would want someone to explain to me why I should adjust gold rewards when doing so will only create another bottleneck someone else would be begging me to address. I would want to know when that train of requests end.
Good lord dude, I'm not a student in a literature class. It sounds like you just learned the word premise and reallllly want to use it. Thanks for the advice on my "premise", which wasn't actually a premise at all as it was not the basis for literally any argument I have made. It was a figure of speech. I give up on these forums, it has completely devolved to people either showing off, trolling, or trying to sound smart. Kabam will figure out whether or not the game needs gold, I don't care anymore. If I still can't get gold in a couple months than I find a different game. Good god.
I don't think you understood my point. I specifically stated that 5* champions already exist now, so the meaning of "5* champs are the future" cannot mean "eventually we will have them" because we have them now. It is normally meant to imply that in the future 5* champions will make 4* champions completely obsolete. But your statements about the advantages of 5* champs over 4* champs in the general case don't make the case that 5* champs make 4* champs obsolete now. They could possibly in the future but that's a future with a lot of changes to the present, and thus "5* champs are the future" doesn't say anything about how the game should operate in the present. It is in that sense that saying 5* champs are the future is no different than saying 6* champs are the future: both statements refer to a future in which the game has to be structurally very different from what it is today, and thus says little or nothing about how the game should work today. Those statements refer to a game that doesn't exist yet.
I play very high up and still have over 30 million gold. I am over 500000 rating so I do rank up everyone. the payout of gold is obviously acceptable if people have so much overflow. The problem that some people are short on gold is real but you should be discussing why your short. Bc people are telling you why they have so much. Gold is like any resource it needs to be farmed it just can't be handed out.
Nice stockpile of Crystals and Units.
What I am saying is, a shortage of resources is part of the game. It forces you to have to make decisions about who to rank, what aspects of the game you can "afford" and which you can't. It creates a separation between levels of progression in the game. At different levels you face shortages of different resources.
Everyone above you already worked through it. It was tedious at times but they got it done. So now it's your turn to put in the time and earn it.
Hmmmm several of the 500k players in my alliance disagree. This is not a lower tier problem, I am in top tier alliance.
It's not an absolute. But nearly everyone at that level has more than enough gold. If tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas were to become more abundant all of a sudden then that would shift.
Your evidence is anecdotal. You have no idea if it's really nearly everyone. I can base my argument on the widespread issue by the amount of threads started daily regarding gold. And don't you think t2as are going to come back? I have no doubt 100% act 5 will be the first to get a 5/65 5*.
My evidence is anecdotal as is virtually all evidence on this forum. The percentage of players represented on this forum is very low as evidenced by the same people commenting on most threads. The complaints about having no gold are constantly started by the same players and commented on by the same players.
I am in a top tier alliance. Having ranked in the top 5 for AQ. Having been in the top 10 for War Rating. I play with and against those at the very top of this game. They don't complain about a shortage of gold. They complain about a shortage of tier 4 basics and tier 2 alphas.
Now, this is just my experience so yes it is anecdotal. But I never see guys from this level complaining about a shortage of gold.
I am against increasing the supply of gold. I think the supply of gold is well balanced with other resources and should stay that way.
All things come in their time. I need a lot more tier 4 basics. I have about 50 tier 4 class catalysts just sitting around and millions in gold. But, kabam controls that commodity just like they do the gold. I'll progress as I can get more
I personally think the basic supply is fine FOR ME, but if Kabam tells me they considering increasing T4b, I would damn sure support it. That's the difference between you and me. Gotta think outside the scope of your own account. Or don't. It's true, you don't have to, that's just how I feel.
I'd say I'm here a fair amount. It's not as prevalent as you are claiming. In fact, the occasional Threads contain the same few people. The rest are people asking for Gold Realm to come back because it's an easy way to stockpile quickly. What we're telling you is it's manageable with effort, and you seem insistent on arguing with those of us that have it well under control.
Yes because on the other side of the table is the same 3 people who have such a ridiculous amount of gold due to simply playing an obscene amount. I could name all of you at this point because it's the same people too.
There's no point in us arguing anymore because you will never see my point, that part is abundantly clear. You just can't see beyond your own account.
And that's fair. I'm not considering others needs. Or wants. I'm considering my own. Call me a jerk but I don't want others to so easily be able to get what took me forever to earn/accrue. That will unfairly close the gap between them and me causing it to be more difficult for me to be able to earn future rewards.
I can respect that, and appreciate you admitting it. It's totally reasonable not to play the way I do. I would like to say though that I think everyone benefits from looking at other players, because that might be you one day. I used to be one of those people with way more gold I knew what to do with, I think I broke 20 mil once.
I could've expanded on the point but it's one that has been made many times before but allow me to since you think it was a troll. See Kabam knows about your alliance and thier reserves as well as every other alliance and individual player at all different levels through out the game. It is thier job and part of how they keep the game active. What you are saying is that you have a problem but are passing the buck because people in your limited circle also say the same thing. You do this while dismissing anyone who has a different experience than you and insulting anyone who disagrees with you and it's simply BS.
If you want gold put more time into the game the gold is there, Kabam doesn't want you to play the game less. Go ahead call me names, hurl insults and feed me those snowflake tears.
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We have another one. This is especially egregious as his original point was anectdotal and the argument relies solely on it and cites more anecdotal evidence to try and squash the argument he calls anecdotal.
The number of threads started daily about gold pale in comparison to the number of threads not started. This of course ignores that the number of threads started daily is less than 1 but eh don't the facts get in the way.
Yeah this is only the most popular thread right now and this is the second one I made in two days. The last one had to get deleted but miike told me to create a new one.
The discussion must have some merit
What sucks is this one will probably have to get deleted too.
I'm skeptical about whether gold as a resource has an overriding shortage that needs to be addressed, but I think a discussion about whether it does or not has some merit.
To be fair, what gets Threads deleted is when it becomes personal and people are attacking each other. I've seen quite a bit. There is nothing wrong with healthy debate. Calling people Trolls and making things personal is not allowed. That's what closes Threads.
@GroundedWisdom how can you deny him being a troll, look at this guy
Starting to make sense now though. I didn't even know you could go that negative
If you can read the majority of the comments on my Profile and justify those as Abuse, I would suggest looking into what Abusive Behavior is.
Version 3? Jk. Yeah. Thanks to those of you that brought some actual discussion, even if we couldn't agree. Even you @GroundedWisdom