lol .. i just took a peek inside the Abyss just for giggles and the first battle up was a ridiculous Thing. definitely need a team that's synergy heavy to counter most of this stuff ... but that's the trick .. figuring out which team works.
Or.... it could probably be the case of “you’re not ready” for it yet...
Sorry how does one prepare for a hit cap?
i'm definitely not ready for it ... could i do it if i were a big spender with money to burn? sure. i mean even for a "whale" account like Seatin he's burned through over 3K units and tons of revives. so is anyone really ready? i highly doubt it unless as i mentioned, you have money to burn.
Ended up costing him 4K units which is pretty damn good, I think that’s inline with the first LOL clears when released. And if kabam was selling completion rewards as an offer for 4K units people would lap it up.
I caught about half of Lagacy's run (the beginning and the end mostly) and based on the start and end of the run he did it for 456 units, plus a ton of farmed potions. Although he certainly spent a lot of time farming potions and revives, his run seems to demonstrate that the Abyss can be completed with proper skill without spending actual cash to clear it. If anything, Lagacy's run suggests the Abyss might be easier than it was supposed to be, at least for a first time completion. Not to minimize the accomplishment of any of the first time runners, Lagacy's run in particular was very impressive, but if the intent was to make it a challenge that the top players would have to work towards, it seems to be within the reach of the top players now, at least ones with very strong rosters (it was very interesting to see Lags just power through the Collector with Aegon: shades of people doing the same thing with the original Collector fight when 5.2 first came out).
lol .. i just took a peek inside the Abyss just for giggles and the first battle up was a ridiculous Thing. definitely need a team that's synergy heavy to counter most of this stuff ... but that's the trick .. figuring out which team works.
Or.... it could probably be the case of “you’re not ready” for it yet...
Sorry how does one prepare for a hit cap?
i'm definitely not ready for it ... could i do it if i were a big spender with money to burn? sure. i mean even for a "whale" account like Seatin he's burned through over 3K units and tons of revives. so is anyone really ready? i highly doubt it unless as i mentioned, you have money to burn.
Ended up costing him 4K units which is pretty damn good, I think that’s inline with the first LOL clears when released. And if kabam was selling completion rewards as an offer for 4K units people would lap it up.
I caught about half of Lagacy's run (the beginning and the end mostly) and based on the start and end of the run he did it for 456 units, plus a ton of farmed potions. Although he certainly spent a lot of time farming potions and revives, his run seems to demonstrate that the Abyss can be completed with proper skill without spending actual cash to clear it. If anything, Lagacy's run suggests the Abyss might be easier than it was supposed to be, at least for a first time completion. Not to minimize the accomplishment of any of the first time runners, Lagacy's run in particular was very impressive, but if the intent was to make it a challenge that the top players would have to work towards, it seems to be within the reach of the top players now, at least ones with very strong rosters (it was very interesting to see Lags just power through the Collector with Aegon: shades of people doing the same thing with the original Collector fight when 5.2 first came out).
You can't have Legacy's roster with being free 2 play so I disagree with your statement. Dr. Doom went for 83 million arena points both times. Impossible to get with a free2 play roster outside of Brian Grant. Also, he has a Aegon maxed out. Which if you're lucky to pull him at all, sig 200 is almost impossible without spending given how little sig stones we get for completing content.
lol .. i just took a peek inside the Abyss just for giggles and the first battle up was a ridiculous Thing. definitely need a team that's synergy heavy to counter most of this stuff ... but that's the trick .. figuring out which team works.
Or.... it could probably be the case of “you’re not ready” for it yet...
Sorry how does one prepare for a hit cap?
i'm definitely not ready for it ... could i do it if i were a big spender with money to burn? sure. i mean even for a "whale" account like Seatin he's burned through over 3K units and tons of revives. so is anyone really ready? i highly doubt it unless as i mentioned, you have money to burn.
Ended up costing him 4K units which is pretty damn good, I think that’s inline with the first LOL clears when released. And if kabam was selling completion rewards as an offer for 4K units people would lap it up.
I caught about half of Lagacy's run (the beginning and the end mostly) and based on the start and end of the run he did it for 456 units, plus a ton of farmed potions. Although he certainly spent a lot of time farming potions and revives, his run seems to demonstrate that the Abyss can be completed with proper skill without spending actual cash to clear it. If anything, Lagacy's run suggests the Abyss might be easier than it was supposed to be, at least for a first time completion. Not to minimize the accomplishment of any of the first time runners, Lagacy's run in particular was very impressive, but if the intent was to make it a challenge that the top players would have to work towards, it seems to be within the reach of the top players now, at least ones with very strong rosters (it was very interesting to see Lags just power through the Collector with Aegon: shades of people doing the same thing with the original Collector fight when 5.2 first came out).
You can't have Legacy's roster with being free 2 play so I disagree with your statement. Dr. Doom went for 83 million arena points both times. Impossible to get with a free2 play roster outside of Brian Grant. Also, he has a Aegon maxed out. Which if you're lucky to pull him at all, sig 200 is almost impossible without spending given how little sig stones we get for completing content.
What I said was that the Abyss could be completed without spending cash, not that a free to play player could necessarily complete it. As to having a maxed Aegon as a free to play player, that's a separate unrelated debate: the point of the Abyss was supposedly to challenge the top players in the game, and the top players in the game however they got to be top players can apparently complete the Abyss without spending lots of cash.
What free to play players can and cannot achieve is a separate and mostly unproductive debate that never goes anywhere. But I'm pretty sure that back in the day when I was a hardcore MMO player I put in more grind than Brian has ever put into MCOC, and I've met people that make my gaming history look like a squib. What a player can achieve with pure grind time in a game like this tends to be greatly underestimated by people who don't actually do it.
lol .. i just took a peek inside the Abyss just for giggles and the first battle up was a ridiculous Thing. definitely need a team that's synergy heavy to counter most of this stuff ... but that's the trick .. figuring out which team works.
Or.... it could probably be the case of “you’re not ready” for it yet...
Sorry how does one prepare for a hit cap?
i'm definitely not ready for it ... could i do it if i were a big spender with money to burn? sure. i mean even for a "whale" account like Seatin he's burned through over 3K units and tons of revives. so is anyone really ready? i highly doubt it unless as i mentioned, you have money to burn.
Ended up costing him 4K units which is pretty damn good, I think that’s inline with the first LOL clears when released. And if kabam was selling completion rewards as an offer for 4K units people would lap it up.
I caught about half of Lagacy's run (the beginning and the end mostly) and based on the start and end of the run he did it for 456 units, plus a ton of farmed potions. Although he certainly spent a lot of time farming potions and revives, his run seems to demonstrate that the Abyss can be completed with proper skill without spending actual cash to clear it. If anything, Lagacy's run suggests the Abyss might be easier than it was supposed to be, at least for a first time completion. Not to minimize the accomplishment of any of the first time runners, Lagacy's run in particular was very impressive, but if the intent was to make it a challenge that the top players would have to work towards, it seems to be within the reach of the top players now, at least ones with very strong rosters (it was very interesting to see Lags just power through the Collector with Aegon: shades of people doing the same thing with the original Collector fight when 5.2 first came out).
You can't have Legacy's roster with being free 2 play so I disagree with your statement. Dr. Doom went for 83 million arena points both times. Impossible to get with a free2 play roster outside of Brian Grant. Also, he has a Aegon maxed out. Which if you're lucky to pull him at all, sig 200 is almost impossible without spending given how little sig stones we get for completing content.
What I said was that the Abyss could be completed without spending cash, not that a free to play player could necessarily complete it. As to having a maxed Aegon as a free to play player, that's a separate unrelated debate: the point of the Abyss was supposedly to challenge the top players in the game, and the top players in the game however they got to be top players can apparently complete the Abyss without spending lots of cash.
What free to play players can and cannot achieve is a separate and mostly unproductive debate that never goes anywhere. But I'm pretty sure that back in the day when I was a hardcore MMO player I put in more grind than Brian has ever put into MCOC, and I've met people that make my gaming history look like a squib. What a player can achieve with pure grind time in a game like this tends to be greatly underestimated by people who don't actually do it.
What is a large amount of units to you? Lagacy had a huge stash of revives which is essentially units. I know its cute to pretend that the revives were all earned free to play but we know thats not the case.
lol .. i just took a peek inside the Abyss just for giggles and the first battle up was a ridiculous Thing. definitely need a team that's synergy heavy to counter most of this stuff ... but that's the trick .. figuring out which team works.
Or.... it could probably be the case of “you’re not ready” for it yet...
Sorry how does one prepare for a hit cap?
i'm definitely not ready for it ... could i do it if i were a big spender with money to burn? sure. i mean even for a "whale" account like Seatin he's burned through over 3K units and tons of revives. so is anyone really ready? i highly doubt it unless as i mentioned, you have money to burn.
Ended up costing him 4K units which is pretty damn good, I think that’s inline with the first LOL clears when released. And if kabam was selling completion rewards as an offer for 4K units people would lap it up.
I caught about half of Lagacy's run (the beginning and the end mostly) and based on the start and end of the run he did it for 456 units, plus a ton of farmed potions. Although he certainly spent a lot of time farming potions and revives, his run seems to demonstrate that the Abyss can be completed with proper skill without spending actual cash to clear it. If anything, Lagacy's run suggests the Abyss might be easier than it was supposed to be, at least for a first time completion. Not to minimize the accomplishment of any of the first time runners, Lagacy's run in particular was very impressive, but if the intent was to make it a challenge that the top players would have to work towards, it seems to be within the reach of the top players now, at least ones with very strong rosters (it was very interesting to see Lags just power through the Collector with Aegon: shades of people doing the same thing with the original Collector fight when 5.2 first came out).
You can't have Legacy's roster with being free 2 play so I disagree with your statement. Dr. Doom went for 83 million arena points both times. Impossible to get with a free2 play roster outside of Brian Grant. Also, he has a Aegon maxed out. Which if you're lucky to pull him at all, sig 200 is almost impossible without spending given how little sig stones we get for completing content.
What I said was that the Abyss could be completed without spending cash, not that a free to play player could necessarily complete it. As to having a maxed Aegon as a free to play player, that's a separate unrelated debate: the point of the Abyss was supposedly to challenge the top players in the game, and the top players in the game however they got to be top players can apparently complete the Abyss without spending lots of cash.
What free to play players can and cannot achieve is a separate and mostly unproductive debate that never goes anywhere. But I'm pretty sure that back in the day when I was a hardcore MMO player I put in more grind than Brian has ever put into MCOC, and I've met people that make my gaming history look like a squib. What a player can achieve with pure grind time in a game like this tends to be greatly underestimated by people who don't actually do it.
What is a large amount of units to you? Lagacy had a huge stash of revives which is essentially units
456 units is not a large amount of units, which is apparently what Lagacy spent. And revives are not "essentially units" revives are revives. I'm pretty sure the vast overwhelming majority of the players remotely contemplating doing the Abyss believe and understand there's a huge difference between spending thousands of units on content and doing it with farmed potions, and understand what I'm saying with perfect clarity. If you want to have a debate about what "essentially units" is, that's not a debate I'm interested in having. And good luck finding someone who is.
lol .. i just took a peek inside the Abyss just for giggles and the first battle up was a ridiculous Thing. definitely need a team that's synergy heavy to counter most of this stuff ... but that's the trick .. figuring out which team works.
Or.... it could probably be the case of “you’re not ready” for it yet...
Sorry how does one prepare for a hit cap?
i'm definitely not ready for it ... could i do it if i were a big spender with money to burn? sure. i mean even for a "whale" account like Seatin he's burned through over 3K units and tons of revives. so is anyone really ready? i highly doubt it unless as i mentioned, you have money to burn.
Ended up costing him 4K units which is pretty damn good, I think that’s inline with the first LOL clears when released. And if kabam was selling completion rewards as an offer for 4K units people would lap it up.
I caught about half of Lagacy's run (the beginning and the end mostly) and based on the start and end of the run he did it for 456 units, plus a ton of farmed potions. Although he certainly spent a lot of time farming potions and revives, his run seems to demonstrate that the Abyss can be completed with proper skill without spending actual cash to clear it. If anything, Lagacy's run suggests the Abyss might be easier than it was supposed to be, at least for a first time completion. Not to minimize the accomplishment of any of the first time runners, Lagacy's run in particular was very impressive, but if the intent was to make it a challenge that the top players would have to work towards, it seems to be within the reach of the top players now, at least ones with very strong rosters (it was very interesting to see Lags just power through the Collector with Aegon: shades of people doing the same thing with the original Collector fight when 5.2 first came out).
You can't have Legacy's roster with being free 2 play so I disagree with your statement. Dr. Doom went for 83 million arena points both times. Impossible to get with a free2 play roster outside of Brian Grant. Also, he has a Aegon maxed out. Which if you're lucky to pull him at all, sig 200 is almost impossible without spending given how little sig stones we get for completing content.
What I said was that the Abyss could be completed without spending cash, not that a free to play player could necessarily complete it. As to having a maxed Aegon as a free to play player, that's a separate unrelated debate: the point of the Abyss was supposedly to challenge the top players in the game, and the top players in the game however they got to be top players can apparently complete the Abyss without spending lots of cash.
What free to play players can and cannot achieve is a separate and mostly unproductive debate that never goes anywhere. But I'm pretty sure that back in the day when I was a hardcore MMO player I put in more grind than Brian has ever put into MCOC, and I've met people that make my gaming history look like a squib. What a player can achieve with pure grind time in a game like this tends to be greatly underestimated by people who don't actually do it.
What is a large amount of units to you? Lagacy had a huge stash of revives which is essentially units
456 units is not a large amount of units, which is apparently what Lagacy spent. And revives are not "essentially units" revives are revives. I'm pretty sure the vast overwhelming majority of the players remotely contemplating doing the Abyss believe and understand there's a huge difference between spending thousands of units on content and doing it with farmed potions, and understand what I'm saying with perfect clarity. If you want to have a debate about what "essentially units" is, that's not a debate I'm interested in having. And good luck finding someone who is.
We don't know what revives were paid for well before he started and they aren't just handing out level 60% revives so it might have been gotten by a unit offer. Its not that hard to figure out, and if you don't want to continue going back and forth than stop answering. Simple.
it's off my radar as well @Aleor ... not that i don't have the roster for it ... but nowhere near the time or $ for it. props to the folks that dig in though.
Oh yeah, funny enough this experiment came to an end, because I got hit and died before the second load of charges ran out lol.
So I went in to try this out messing around and you need to make him switch modes so you can reverse that Regen. I had Doom on the team instead of DocOc. But may do another try with that Sting synergy instead to compare against.
I finished abyss this week. It was hard. Really hard. If you don’t have Aegon, and a good nullify champ like doom or symbiote supreme, don’t even try it. Honestly without aegon I’d never recommend anyone try it
I grinded arena for three months, raised about 8,000 units. Took me about 5,500 units in revives to get through it. And that’s with a 5/65 Aegon and doom and a r2 6* torch. All three are essential to minimize cost
lol .. i just took a peek inside the Abyss just for giggles and the first battle up was a ridiculous Thing. definitely need a team that's synergy heavy to counter most of this stuff ... but that's the trick .. figuring out which team works.
Without doom or sym supreme who's the better nullify option? Black widow Claire or Morningstar? I'd much rather rank up BWCV but if Morningstar is that much better for it I'll choose her and just use the completion rewards to take Claire voyant up
lol .. i just took a peek inside the Abyss just for giggles and the first battle up was a ridiculous Thing. definitely need a team that's synergy heavy to counter most of this stuff ... but that's the trick .. figuring out which team works.
Or.... it could probably be the case of “you’re not ready” for it yet...
i don't think he was saying it was bad content, he was just saying he took his first look at it and was surprised, and will need to prepare more.
Im assuming its essential to have all rank 5 or rank 2 champs for this. I have a 5/65 aegon, 5/65 nick fury, soon to be 5/65 human torch but only a 6 star rank 1 symbiote supreme. I really want to try it with this roster, but am afraid that not having a high ranked nullify champ will only cause frustration and regret.
Any thoughts?
I'd wait till SS is R2. Personally I'm grinding for another month or two before I go in. By then my team should all be 5/65s and I should have somewhere around 5k or more units ready.
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Also, he has a Aegon maxed out. Which if you're lucky to pull him at all, sig 200 is almost impossible without spending given how little sig stones we get for completing content.
What free to play players can and cannot achieve is a separate and mostly unproductive debate that never goes anywhere. But I'm pretty sure that back in the day when I was a hardcore MMO player I put in more grind than Brian has ever put into MCOC, and I've met people that make my gaming history look like a squib. What a player can achieve with pure grind time in a game like this tends to be greatly underestimated by people who don't actually do it.