Let me explain.... Although many get frustrated where RNG is concerned there's actually a reason why stuff like what happened to the OP happens (namely getting tons of 1 class of catalyst and not another). In terms of code, Random Number Generators or RNG is not technically fully random. What I mean by this is that they (Random Number Generators) are pseudo random. By definition pseudo random means that the generator comes up with a number which is more than likely to be the previous number that was generated. So after it generates a number for the first time, odds are that the next one will more than likely be the same, although there is still a chance that it is something different, hence why you get a bunch a different type of catalyst after the first type, and then get a bunch of that type and so on...
I'm not sure if this is a case of being totally wrong, or being in over your head when reading very mathy things.
Pseudo-random number generators are called pseudo-random because they aren't actually random (they are generated by formula) but they appear to be random if you don't know the generating algorithm. Any pseudo-random number generator that had the property you mention, that they have a greater chance to generate the same number twice than random chance would dictate, would be drop-dead awful and no one would use it.
If you care about randomness a lot, like for simulations and such, you'll probably use something like Mersenne Twister. This is a PRNG that is often used for things like computational simulations where any correlation like you describe would break the program. MT is very, very good. It isn't perfect, but no human being is going to find an anomaly with human eyeballs if they lived to be a trillion years old.
If you don't care all that much, you'll just use the rand() function in your C library. Which is horrible in mathematical terms, but not that horrible in video game terms. Pretty much all of them are what's known as LCGs. They all look basically like this: R(n+1) = R * A + B mod 2^C. For example the gcc library uses (last I checked) R(n+1) = (R * 1103515245 + 12345) mod 2^31.
I'm wondering if you somehow stumbled on a very technical article on LCGs and simply didn't understand it. LCGs are vulnerable to what's sometimes referred to as serial correlation, which means they can fail spectral test of tuples (breaking the sequence down to groups of two or more and comparing the probability of different groups of numbers showing up). However, no LCG I'm aware of actually produces numbers where the odds of generating the previous number are significantly higher than any other result. That's not what "serial correlation" refers to here.
No one player is going to see the flaws in LCGs used in computer library implementations unless they dug up a computer from the 1960s, and probably not even then. For example, if you want to catch the typical C library PRNG being "not really random" an experiment you could do would be to open three like crystals all at once, record what came out, do that one billion times, and graph the results. You'd see some triple combinations showing up somewhat more often than others, maybe by 1% or so.
Anything less than that, and if you think you're seeing a PRNG problem, you aren't. No PRNG that ships with any modern anything is bad enough to tell in a setting like a video game.
It's not RNG lol. If it truly was, we wouldn't all have multiple dupes of meme champs and no god tiers
Who's "we?" I mean you just posted in a thread started by an F2P player who is not yet Uncollected and is trying to rank up his Omega Red.
Are you saying the game was rigged to not give him mutant T4CC because it hates him, or are you saying the game was rigged to give him a 5* Omega Red because it likes him? Because you don't get to pick only one of those.
The game pretty much knows what you want from T4CC and doesnt give you lol and I have been in a bunch of streams to see that for other players and for myself too. That said, its all RNG and thats what Kabam is moving this game towards
Confirmation bias. Back in the day I used to analyze the drop results from live streams (because non-live streams can be skewed by selection bias, whereas live streams can't be). Even when people claimed they could see bias in the crystals with their own eyes, mathematical analysis of the drops demonstrated they fell within the expectations for random distributions.
Everyone who says "I saw it" never seen able to point to actual evidence of them seeing this, which is pretty bad given that we're talking about Youtube recordings anyone can reference.
I don't bother anymore because the amount of work is huge, and it never seems to convince anyone to drop their intuitive, but provably incorrect, assumptions.
True story: on these very forums someone claimed that the drops people were reporting for the Cinematic crystal proved those crystals were highly skewed. They claimed it was blatantly obvious. So I simply took the posts and spreadsheeted them, and what do you know, that skew wasn't there. They then claimed that the skew was a completely different skew than they initially claimed, so I redid the data that way, and once again the skew vanished. To the best of my knowledge, they never once reversed their position. In fact, a week later they doubled down on it, I posted a link to that previous data, and they disappeared again. They probably still believe that crystal was rigged, even though their own source for data proved it wasn't.
Because this isn't about data. This is about people creating a narrative in their own head, and then remembering every time the world confirmed it and forgetting or ignoring every time it didn't..
Also, there's an easy way to make it impossible for the game to hand you want you don't want. Don't want anything. I use what I get, because I fully expect the crystal drops to be random.
A lot of people genuinely think everyone else is like them. That if they want to rank X instead of Y, so would everyone else. That everyone wants the god tier champ that they think are god tier champs and want to rank them up in the same order they would. So the game also knows this, and can decide to give a player something they don't want.
The game cannot do that to me, because the game cannot possibly predict what I want. Because none of you can predict what I want. And none of you can predict what everyone else would want.
Once you realize that everyone is different, the idea that you can predict what everyone wants becomes ludicrous (or, you can simply have enough experience to have seen this first hand, something I've seen myself with other games). And once you realize it is impossible to predict what everyone would want, the idea that the game servers are doing that and changing crystals on the fly based on that prediction becomes equally silly. Some people want different champs. Some want to dup their existing champs. Some want the god tier champs. Some just want to collect their favorite champs. Some want to rank their top champ to max rank. Some want to rank a bunch of champs to medium ranks. The game cannot possibly rig crystals to account for all of this. It would be silly.
You don't need to know anything about math or computational algorithms or video game design. All you need to know is no one person represent everyone else, and it becomes obvious the game cannot read the minds of every player and adjust crystals customized to every single player. It is just a ridiculous idea on its face.
Nothing is random. My 3 last 5* were daredevil neflix, crossbones and duped Hawkeye. All skill champions that I will never use. I don't believe in this RNG of a thing the crystals are rigged in case you don't know
@TheSaith I can only say you're not alone and I stopped T4CC crystal opening for a month as it keeps giving me Skill T4cc, which I don't have any Skill champ to rank up at the moment. Even I open T4CC fragments but most are Skill shards. I traded expired Skill T4CC for others few times already and I don't want to waste 3 T4CC again.
It's not RNG lol. If it truly was, we wouldn't all have multiple dupes of meme champs and no god tiers
Who's "we?" I mean you just posted in a thread started by an F2P player who is not yet Uncollected and is trying to rank up his Omega Red.
Are you saying the game was rigged to not give him mutant T4CC because it hates him, or are you saying the game was rigged to give him a 5* Omega Red because it likes him? Because you don't get to pick only one of those.
The game pretty much knows what you want from T4CC and doesnt give you lol and I have been in a bunch of streams to see that for other players and for myself too. That said, its all RNG and thats what Kabam is moving this game towards
So how does it know? When you go to the crystal screen., how does it determine at that point, what t4cc you need vs what you don't want?
What if you get 4 of the class you need out of 10 crystals. What does that say about what the game is thinking?
No idea, Im just telling you based on evidence from streams and personal experience (and this post?). If I knew, I would try to game it. I do think it could be based on what class champ you ranked up most recently but again, thats all speculation and I could be wrong.
What I know for sure is that a majority of the time, you don't get what you want. I opened 40 T4CC in hopes for 5 mutant and 0 mystic but I got 8 mystic and only 2 mutant. BUT the first time in my past 3 years of MCOC, I opened 1 t4cc hoping for cosmic and got it. So again, speculation and its not always there but it happens and there is no denying it because its out there.
So based off of a extremely, extremely small sample of player data, you've come to the conclusion that the game is telepathic. On a quick side note, I know a Nigerian Prince who can give you $10mil you just need to give me $50k to make it happen.
So instead of the game having some sort of superhuman powers, could it be that because you are looking to get 1 class from 6 and that would be why you think the game doesn't give you want.
Lets really think about this for a minute.... What benefit is there for you not to get what you want? Why would Kabam design a game read your mind and prevent you from ranking champs up by keeping T4CC from you? You rarely can buy them with units or money so throw monetary motive out the window.
The more content you try and complete, the more chance you have to spend to buy pots and energy refills. So you'd think if anything, they'd rather give you everything you need.
Maybe the only solution left is that its just random results and your brain cant process that you didn't get what you wanted so you have to blame it on something. 🤷
Let me know if you want to give me that $50k. My friend is legit serious.
Nothing is random. My 3 last 5* were daredevil neflix, crossbones and duped Hawkeye. All skill champions that I will never use. I don't believe in this RNG of a thing the crystals are rigged in case you don't know
How exactly is it not random? Because you got all the same class? You may want to do a little research or what random means.
It's not RNG lol. If it truly was, we wouldn't all have multiple dupes of meme champs and no god tiers
Who's "we?" I mean you just posted in a thread started by an F2P player who is not yet Uncollected and is trying to rank up his Omega Red.
Are you saying the game was rigged to not give him mutant T4CC because it hates him, or are you saying the game was rigged to give him a 5* Omega Red because it likes him? Because you don't get to pick only one of those.
The game pretty much knows what you want from T4CC and doesnt give you lol and I have been in a bunch of streams to see that for other players and for myself too. That said, its all RNG and thats what Kabam is moving this game towards
So how does it know? When you go to the crystal screen., how does it determine at that point, what t4cc you need vs what you don't want?
What if you get 4 of the class you need out of 10 crystals. What does that say about what the game is thinking?
No idea, Im just telling you based on evidence from streams and personal experience (and this post?). If I knew, I would try to game it. I do think it could be based on what class champ you ranked up most recently but again, thats all speculation and I could be wrong.
What I know for sure is that a majority of the time, you don't get what you want. I opened 40 T4CC in hopes for 5 mutant and 0 mystic but I got 8 mystic and only 2 mutant. BUT the first time in my past 3 years of MCOC, I opened 1 t4cc hoping for cosmic and got it. So again, speculation and its not always there but it happens and there is no denying it because its out there.
So based off of a extremely, extremely small sample of player data, you've come to the conclusion that the game is telepathic. On a quick side note, I know a Nigerian Prince who can give you $10mil you just need to give me $50k to make it happen.
So instead of the game having some sort of superhuman powers, could it be that because you are looking to get 1 class from 6 and that would be why you think the game doesn't give you want.
Lets really think about this for a minute.... What benefit is there for you not to get what you want? Why would Kabam design a game read your mind and prevent you from ranking champs up by keeping T4CC from you? You rarely can buy them with units or money so throw monetary motive out the window.
The more content you try and complete, the more chance you have to spend to buy pots and energy refills. So you'd think if anything, they'd rather give you everything you need.
Maybe the only solution left is that its just random results and your brain cant process that you didn't get what you wanted so you have to blame it on something. 🤷
Let me know if you want to give me that $50k. My friend is legit serious.
The sass to hurt is oozing from the recent posts XD
It probably is just bad rng, but enough s*** pulls from endgame content and other players to notice a pattern that could create the idea the game is working against the majority.
It's not RNG lol. If it truly was, we wouldn't all have multiple dupes of meme champs and no god tiers
Who's "we?" I mean you just posted in a thread started by an F2P player who is not yet Uncollected and is trying to rank up his Omega Red.
Are you saying the game was rigged to not give him mutant T4CC because it hates him, or are you saying the game was rigged to give him a 5* Omega Red because it likes him? Because you don't get to pick only one of those.
The game pretty much knows what you want from T4CC and doesnt give you lol and I have been in a bunch of streams to see that for other players and for myself too. That said, its all RNG and thats what Kabam is moving this game towards
So how does it know? When you go to the crystal screen., how does it determine at that point, what t4cc you need vs what you don't want?
What if you get 4 of the class you need out of 10 crystals. What does that say about what the game is thinking?
No idea, Im just telling you based on evidence from streams and personal experience (and this post?). If I knew, I would try to game it. I do think it could be based on what class champ you ranked up most recently but again, thats all speculation and I could be wrong.
What I know for sure is that a majority of the time, you don't get what you want. I opened 40 T4CC in hopes for 5 mutant and 0 mystic but I got 8 mystic and only 2 mutant. BUT the first time in my past 3 years of MCOC, I opened 1 t4cc hoping for cosmic and got it. So again, speculation and its not always there but it happens and there is no denying it because its out there.
So based off of a extremely, extremely small sample of player data, you've come to the conclusion that the game is telepathic. On a quick side note, I know a Nigerian Prince who can give you $10mil you just need to give me $50k to make it happen.
So instead of the game having some sort of superhuman powers, could it be that because you are looking to get 1 class from 6 and that would be why you think the game doesn't give you want.
Lets really think about this for a minute.... What benefit is there for you not to get what you want? Why would Kabam design a game read your mind and prevent you from ranking champs up by keeping T4CC from you? You rarely can buy them with units or money so throw monetary motive out the window.
The more content you try and complete, the more chance you have to spend to buy pots and energy refills. So you'd think if anything, they'd rather give you everything you need.
Maybe the only solution left is that its just random results and your brain cant process that you didn't get what you wanted so you have to blame it on something. 🤷
Let me know if you want to give me that $50k. My friend is legit serious.
The sass to hurt is oozing from the recent posts XD
It probably is just bad rng, but enough s*** pulls from endgame content and other players to notice a pattern that could create the idea the game is working against the majority.
The so called "pattern" is actually confirmation bias. You're only looking for the events that support your theories.
It's not About Drop rates... We want something new... Like Mystic or any other Class Hero crystal (of course costs extra shards maybe 2500 or 3k 4 star shards for class champ) same as 5 and six star.. Plus same thing in Catalyst Don't mind Extra cost. It's really hard to Collect Shards 5 and 6 stars specially and opening a meme tier champ makes disheartened to play further. We want to enjoy game not getting offended with it.
It's not RNG lol. If it truly was, we wouldn't all have multiple dupes of meme champs and no god tiers
Who's "we?" I mean you just posted in a thread started by an F2P player who is not yet Uncollected and is trying to rank up his Omega Red.
Are you saying the game was rigged to not give him mutant T4CC because it hates him, or are you saying the game was rigged to give him a 5* Omega Red because it likes him? Because you don't get to pick only one of those.
The game pretty much knows what you want from T4CC and doesnt give you lol and I have been in a bunch of streams to see that for other players and for myself too. That said, its all RNG and thats what Kabam is moving this game towards
Confirmation bias. Back in the day I used to analyze the drop results from live streams (because non-live streams can be skewed by selection bias, whereas live streams can't be). Even when people claimed they could see bias in the crystals with their own eyes, mathematical analysis of the drops demonstrated they fell within the expectations for random distributions.
Everyone who says "I saw it" never seen able to point to actual evidence of them seeing this, which is pretty bad given that we're talking about Youtube recordings anyone can reference.
I don't bother anymore because the amount of work is huge, and it never seems to convince anyone to drop their intuitive, but provably incorrect, assumptions.
True story: on these very forums someone claimed that the drops people were reporting for the Cinematic crystal proved those crystals were highly skewed. They claimed it was blatantly obvious. So I simply took the posts and spreadsheeted them, and what do you know, that skew wasn't there. They then claimed that the skew was a completely different skew than they initially claimed, so I redid the data that way, and once again the skew vanished. To the best of my knowledge, they never once reversed their position. In fact, a week later they doubled down on it, I posted a link to that previous data, and they disappeared again. They probably still believe that crystal was rigged, even though their own source for data proved it wasn't.
Because this isn't about data. This is about people creating a narrative in their own head, and then remembering every time the world confirmed it and forgetting or ignoring every time it didn't..
I know the math proves me wrong, but I am certain that there is a one out of 3 4 star drop rate on the cinematic crystals
There is one thing I want to say. It would be WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for kabam to rig crystals. They would have to set up servers dedicated to scanning peoples rosters and also to determine who they want to rank up. It would not be worth the investment at all.
There is one thing I want to say. It would be WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for kabam to rig crystals. They would have to set up servers dedicated to scanning peoples rosters and also to determine who they want to rank up. It would not be worth the investment at all.
I'm not saying that.. Game is 💯 fair, just a bad mechanism and Bad rewards for f2p players. We want something new and real useful thing
It's not RNG lol. If it truly was, we wouldn't all have multiple dupes of meme champs and no god tiers
Who's "we?" I mean you just posted in a thread started by an F2P player who is not yet Uncollected and is trying to rank up his Omega Red.
Are you saying the game was rigged to not give him mutant T4CC because it hates him, or are you saying the game was rigged to give him a 5* Omega Red because it likes him? Because you don't get to pick only one of those.
The game pretty much knows what you want from T4CC and doesnt give you lol and I have been in a bunch of streams to see that for other players and for myself too. That said, its all RNG and thats what Kabam is moving this game towards
So how does it know? When you go to the crystal screen., how does it determine at that point, what t4cc you need vs what you don't want?
What if you get 4 of the class you need out of 10 crystals. What does that say about what the game is thinking?
No idea, Im just telling you based on evidence from streams and personal experience (and this post?). If I knew, I would try to game it. I do think it could be based on what class champ you ranked up most recently but again, thats all speculation and I could be wrong.
What I know for sure is that a majority of the time, you don't get what you want. I opened 40 T4CC in hopes for 5 mutant and 0 mystic but I got 8 mystic and only 2 mutant. BUT the first time in my past 3 years of MCOC, I opened 1 t4cc hoping for cosmic and got it. So again, speculation and its not always there but it happens and there is no denying it because its out there.
So based off of a extremely, extremely small sample of player data, you've come to the conclusion that the game is telepathic. On a quick side note, I know a Nigerian Prince who can give you $10mil you just need to give me $50k to make it happen.
So instead of the game having some sort of superhuman powers, could it be that because you are looking to get 1 class from 6 and that would be why you think the game doesn't give you want.
Lets really think about this for a minute.... What benefit is there for you not to get what you want? Why would Kabam design a game read your mind and prevent you from ranking champs up by keeping T4CC from you? You rarely can buy them with units or money so throw monetary motive out the window.
The more content you try and complete, the more chance you have to spend to buy pots and energy refills. So you'd think if anything, they'd rather give you everything you need.
Maybe the only solution left is that its just random results and your brain cant process that you didn't get what you wanted so you have to blame it on something. 🤷
Let me know if you want to give me that $50k. My friend is legit serious.
The sass to hurt is oozing from the recent posts XD
It probably is just bad rng, but enough s*** pulls from endgame content and other players to notice a pattern that could create the idea the game is working against the majority.
The so called "pattern" is actually confirmation bias. You're only looking for the events that support your theories.
There is no arguing with you...
I understand that it’s rng. I understand that player’ resource demand also change. If a player has consistently committed to the same class rank up (say ranking up a 5* Cg) over an extended period of time, and more often than not they get every other class t4cc except the desired...I’m not goin to blame the guy if he thinks something is up.
Nothing is random. My 3 last 5* were daredevil neflix, crossbones and duped Hawkeye. All skill champions that I will never use. I don't believe in this RNG of a thing the crystals are rigged in case you don't know
How exactly is it not random? Because you got all the same class? You may want to do a little research or what random means.
What's the point of doing research when we have people like you that know it all. Am guessing you must be very smart.
Let's all stop behaving as if we don't know what's going on in the game. If the company operates in a random manner you will not see people complaining of streak of bad pulls. I just stated my opinion on the game am not complaining about my crystal pulls even though I have almost all the bad champs in skill class as a 5*. Look at the current featured 5* crystal and define Random.
It's not RNG lol. If it truly was, we wouldn't all have multiple dupes of meme champs and no god tiers
Who's "we?" I mean you just posted in a thread started by an F2P player who is not yet Uncollected and is trying to rank up his Omega Red.
Are you saying the game was rigged to not give him mutant T4CC because it hates him, or are you saying the game was rigged to give him a 5* Omega Red because it likes him? Because you don't get to pick only one of those.
The game pretty much knows what you want from T4CC and doesnt give you lol and I have been in a bunch of streams to see that for other players and for myself too. That said, its all RNG and thats what Kabam is moving this game towards
So how does it know? When you go to the crystal screen., how does it determine at that point, what t4cc you need vs what you don't want?
What if you get 4 of the class you need out of 10 crystals. What does that say about what the game is thinking?
No idea, Im just telling you based on evidence from streams and personal experience (and this post?). If I knew, I would try to game it. I do think it could be based on what class champ you ranked up most recently but again, thats all speculation and I could be wrong.
What I know for sure is that a majority of the time, you don't get what you want. I opened 40 T4CC in hopes for 5 mutant and 0 mystic but I got 8 mystic and only 2 mutant. BUT the first time in my past 3 years of MCOC, I opened 1 t4cc hoping for cosmic and got it. So again, speculation and its not always there but it happens and there is no denying it because its out there.
So based off of a extremely, extremely small sample of player data, you've come to the conclusion that the game is telepathic. On a quick side note, I know a Nigerian Prince who can give you $10mil you just need to give me $50k to make it happen.
So instead of the game having some sort of superhuman powers, could it be that because you are looking to get 1 class from 6 and that would be why you think the game doesn't give you want.
Lets really think about this for a minute.... What benefit is there for you not to get what you want? Why would Kabam design a game read your mind and prevent you from ranking champs up by keeping T4CC from you? You rarely can buy them with units or money so throw monetary motive out the window.
The more content you try and complete, the more chance you have to spend to buy pots and energy refills. So you'd think if anything, they'd rather give you everything you need.
Maybe the only solution left is that its just random results and your brain cant process that you didn't get what you wanted so you have to blame it on something. 🤷
Let me know if you want to give me that $50k. My friend is legit serious.
Mathematically, on average you have 16% chance. The person's image shows he should ideally get 1.6 t4cc of each class, which clearly didnt happen. Out of my example, I should have had 6.4 mutant t4cc but got 2. So where does your Nigerian Prince thing fit in here?
There is no need to be condescending, unless your point cant be proven rationally. I know its RNG, but it happens frequently. Also, FYI, you can get t4cc from deals now so there is that thing (just to answer your middle para). Again, Im not here saying 'KaBaM BaD' I am here saying this isnt rare, its rather common-uncommon to not get what you want. But I dont blame kabam for it, especially when I got three 6* aegon in 31 6* crystals.
So there is the math for you sir, if you can comprehend.
Drop rates are per crystal. Not an overall batch. Drop percentages stay the same no matter how many crystals you open. Every cat crystal has a 1/6 chance and that doesn't change if you pop 10 at a time.
This discussion is no longer constructive and will be closed. We've clarified many times that drop rates are not affected by what is in your inventory or what Champions you have.
It's not RNG lol. If it truly was, we wouldn't all have multiple dupes of meme champs and no god tiers
Who's "we?" I mean you just posted in a thread started by an F2P player who is not yet Uncollected and is trying to rank up his Omega Red.
Are you saying the game was rigged to not give him mutant T4CC because it hates him, or are you saying the game was rigged to give him a 5* Omega Red because it likes him? Because you don't get to pick only one of those.
The game pretty much knows what you want from T4CC and doesnt give you lol and I have been in a bunch of streams to see that for other players and for myself too. That said, its all RNG and thats what Kabam is moving this game towards
So how does it know? When you go to the crystal screen., how does it determine at that point, what t4cc you need vs what you don't want?
What if you get 4 of the class you need out of 10 crystals. What does that say about what the game is thinking?
No idea, Im just telling you based on evidence from streams and personal experience (and this post?). If I knew, I would try to game it. I do think it could be based on what class champ you ranked up most recently but again, thats all speculation and I could be wrong.
What I know for sure is that a majority of the time, you don't get what you want. I opened 40 T4CC in hopes for 5 mutant and 0 mystic but I got 8 mystic and only 2 mutant. BUT the first time in my past 3 years of MCOC, I opened 1 t4cc hoping for cosmic and got it. So again, speculation and its not always there but it happens and there is no denying it because its out there.
So based off of a extremely, extremely small sample of player data, you've come to the conclusion that the game is telepathic. On a quick side note, I know a Nigerian Prince who can give you $10mil you just need to give me $50k to make it happen.
So instead of the game having some sort of superhuman powers, could it be that because you are looking to get 1 class from 6 and that would be why you think the game doesn't give you want.
Lets really think about this for a minute.... What benefit is there for you not to get what you want? Why would Kabam design a game read your mind and prevent you from ranking champs up by keeping T4CC from you? You rarely can buy them with units or money so throw monetary motive out the window.
The more content you try and complete, the more chance you have to spend to buy pots and energy refills. So you'd think if anything, they'd rather give you everything you need.
Maybe the only solution left is that its just random results and your brain cant process that you didn't get what you wanted so you have to blame it on something. 🤷
Let me know if you want to give me that $50k. My friend is legit serious.
The sass to hurt is oozing from the recent posts XD
It probably is just bad rng, but enough s*** pulls from endgame content and other players to notice a pattern that could create the idea the game is working against the majority.
The so called "pattern" is actually confirmation bias. You're only looking for the events that support your theories.
There is no arguing with you...
I understand that it’s rng. I understand that player’ resource demand also change. If a player has consistently committed to the same class rank up (say ranking up a 5* Cg) over an extended period of time, and more often than not they get every other class t4cc except the desired...I’m not goin to blame the guy if he thinks something is up.
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Pseudo-random number generators are called pseudo-random because they aren't actually random (they are generated by formula) but they appear to be random if you don't know the generating algorithm. Any pseudo-random number generator that had the property you mention, that they have a greater chance to generate the same number twice than random chance would dictate, would be drop-dead awful and no one would use it.
If you care about randomness a lot, like for simulations and such, you'll probably use something like Mersenne Twister. This is a PRNG that is often used for things like computational simulations where any correlation like you describe would break the program. MT is very, very good. It isn't perfect, but no human being is going to find an anomaly with human eyeballs if they lived to be a trillion years old.
If you don't care all that much, you'll just use the rand() function in your C library. Which is horrible in mathematical terms, but not that horrible in video game terms. Pretty much all of them are what's known as LCGs. They all look basically like this: R(n+1) = R * A + B mod 2^C. For example the gcc library uses (last I checked) R(n+1) = (R * 1103515245 + 12345) mod 2^31.
I'm wondering if you somehow stumbled on a very technical article on LCGs and simply didn't understand it. LCGs are vulnerable to what's sometimes referred to as serial correlation, which means they can fail spectral test of tuples (breaking the sequence down to groups of two or more and comparing the probability of different groups of numbers showing up). However, no LCG I'm aware of actually produces numbers where the odds of generating the previous number are significantly higher than any other result. That's not what "serial correlation" refers to here.
No one player is going to see the flaws in LCGs used in computer library implementations unless they dug up a computer from the 1960s, and probably not even then. For example, if you want to catch the typical C library PRNG being "not really random" an experiment you could do would be to open three like crystals all at once, record what came out, do that one billion times, and graph the results. You'd see some triple combinations showing up somewhat more often than others, maybe by 1% or so.
Anything less than that, and if you think you're seeing a PRNG problem, you aren't. No PRNG that ships with any modern anything is bad enough to tell in a setting like a video game.
Everyone who says "I saw it" never seen able to point to actual evidence of them seeing this, which is pretty bad given that we're talking about Youtube recordings anyone can reference.
I don't bother anymore because the amount of work is huge, and it never seems to convince anyone to drop their intuitive, but provably incorrect, assumptions.
True story: on these very forums someone claimed that the drops people were reporting for the Cinematic crystal proved those crystals were highly skewed. They claimed it was blatantly obvious. So I simply took the posts and spreadsheeted them, and what do you know, that skew wasn't there. They then claimed that the skew was a completely different skew than they initially claimed, so I redid the data that way, and once again the skew vanished. To the best of my knowledge, they never once reversed their position. In fact, a week later they doubled down on it, I posted a link to that previous data, and they disappeared again. They probably still believe that crystal was rigged, even though their own source for data proved it wasn't.
Because this isn't about data. This is about people creating a narrative in their own head, and then remembering every time the world confirmed it and forgetting or ignoring every time it didn't..
A lot of people genuinely think everyone else is like them. That if they want to rank X instead of Y, so would everyone else. That everyone wants the god tier champ that they think are god tier champs and want to rank them up in the same order they would. So the game also knows this, and can decide to give a player something they don't want.
The game cannot do that to me, because the game cannot possibly predict what I want. Because none of you can predict what I want. And none of you can predict what everyone else would want.
Once you realize that everyone is different, the idea that you can predict what everyone wants becomes ludicrous (or, you can simply have enough experience to have seen this first hand, something I've seen myself with other games). And once you realize it is impossible to predict what everyone would want, the idea that the game servers are doing that and changing crystals on the fly based on that prediction becomes equally silly. Some people want different champs. Some want to dup their existing champs. Some want the god tier champs. Some just want to collect their favorite champs. Some want to rank their top champ to max rank. Some want to rank a bunch of champs to medium ranks. The game cannot possibly rig crystals to account for all of this. It would be silly.
You don't need to know anything about math or computational algorithms or video game design. All you need to know is no one person represent everyone else, and it becomes obvious the game cannot read the minds of every player and adjust crystals customized to every single player. It is just a ridiculous idea on its face.
Option 2 is trade in the ones in overflow and hope you get a mutant (or even trade everything)
The option will depend on your patience and how much you want him rank4
So instead of the game having some sort of superhuman powers, could it be that because you are looking to get 1 class from 6 and that would be why you think the game doesn't give you want.
Lets really think about this for a minute.... What benefit is there for you not to get what you want? Why would Kabam design a game read your mind and prevent you from ranking champs up by keeping T4CC from you? You rarely can buy them with units or money so throw monetary motive out the window.
The more content you try and complete, the more chance you have to spend to buy pots and energy refills. So you'd think if anything, they'd rather give you everything you need.
Maybe the only solution left is that its just random results and your brain cant process that you didn't get what you wanted so you have to blame it on something. 🤷
Let me know if you want to give me that $50k. My friend is legit serious.
It probably is just bad rng, but enough s*** pulls from endgame content and other players to notice a pattern that could create the idea the game is working against the majority.
This kind of things always happen in every Rng games.(maybe) Always not get things that you want
Plus same thing in Catalyst Don't mind Extra cost.
It's really hard to Collect Shards 5 and 6 stars specially and opening a meme tier champ makes disheartened to play further. We want to enjoy game not getting offended with it.
It would be WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for kabam to rig crystals. They would have to set up servers dedicated to scanning peoples rosters and also to determine who they want to rank up.
It would not be worth the investment at all.
I understand that it’s rng. I understand that player’ resource demand also change. If a player has consistently committed to the same class rank up (say ranking up a 5* Cg) over an extended period of time, and more often than not they get every other class t4cc except the desired...I’m not goin to blame the guy if he thinks something is up.