TBH

Y'all could have kept these alliance tickets, and refunded the actual resources we poured into the alliance treasury.

I would much rather have the millions of gold — and thousands of battle chips an loyalty.

My alliance runs Map 5 which is now free, so yeah that's my opinion!

Comments

Deadlygamer98

It honestly surprises me how stupid people can get, he doesn’t have an “unfair” advantage because he had 2 million gold to begin with, the other person had 1 million gold to begin with, the person could’ve ranked up a second champ but donated, now he’s getting the refund because HE DONATED, how can humanity ever reach this level of stupidity.

shadow_lurker22

What a dumb thing to say like for real dude.

shadow_lurker22

Don't bother arguing with him he's got boots to lick

YoMoves

It's Grounded. He posts solely so he can hold the Disagree button record.

GroundedWisdom

No. I post because it makes no sense to want Gold back that went to Donations for the Alliance. It would have never been given back either way. Then there's the whole argument of before the fact, which a) it wasn't free until it was free, and b) why would you warn Treasury droppers that you were going to take action? Besides that, Map 5 is what people donated for, and now they don't have to. I don't get how that's something to complain about.

YoMoves

It...actually does make sense, because Kabam is essentially saying they changed the currency, but is refusing to give back your unused investments. To say anything else is giving Kabam the high ground for removing resources with no adequate compensation. You also never addressed my earlier response, how lower-map people are essentially now being allowed to move up to map 5 with absolutely no consequence, which means you are blaming the people who did map 5 for doing map 5, which is a logical fallacy.

shadow_lurker22

I'm not complaining about the system but Kabam already acknowledge that putting in resources was a waste and they should be given back hence why tickets were sent out TO COMPENSATE for those who made donations. Map 5 people basically got screwed because they were given tickets they are not going to use. If your logic is really how Kabam thought of it tickets wouldn't even be sent out I swear it's appallingly the lengths you will go to defend this company even when they screw up.

GroundedWisdom

They can use them anytime they like on Maps 6 and 7. That much is a choice.

YoMoves

So their return for donating for the map they want to play is tickets to maps they've actively decided not to play.

This doesn't make any logical sense.

ThatGuyYouSaw235

They're asking for what they had put into the alliance bank back, because what they got is something they can't use.

GroundedWisdom

They're asking for Resources given for AQ and AQ only, so they can use it other places. Those Resources had one intention when given. Use them on AQ.

YoMoves

Only because there was no choice involved. These resources were given as a prerequisite to perform Map 5 AQ. Therefore, they should be given back Map 5 AQ resources, that would have been used elsewhere if given an opportunity. What they are being given back is NOT Map 5 AQ resources. Thus they are not receiving what they put in, even in a trasmuted sense. That's not fair to them.

Pulyaman

I don't want the resources returned to individual players too. Ya, that example is wrong. If this is the only case, I don't mind return of resources.
If another person in that alliance has just joined recently and it just going to donate next week, and the alliance treasury has 30 mill , splitting the treasury will give the new person 1 mill gold which he did not earn and that is not a fair system.

shadow_lurker22

Those resources should of been given back. If you choose to use them somewhere else there is nothing wrong with that you grinded for them. The only reason they got put into treasury is to use on AQ and now if you play map 5 well they no longer serve that purpose. Have you even grinded for resources before or do you spend all day derailing threads in the forums and spreading your nonsense.

YoMoves

...I don't think that's what he was saying, Pulya.

GroundedWisdom

You don't need Map 5 AQ Resources any more. If it makes you feel any better, they accepted payment for the Maps you donated to run. You think they should give it back to people running Map 5 and everyone else gets Tickets? How do you think that will go over? Map 5 doesn't have to pay anymore. That's compensation enough.

YoMoves

That just walks right back into my first argument.

How is it fair the people running map 5 paid for people who had NEVER run map 5 to run it for free? There is a disproportionate loss somewhere along the spectrum no matter how you try to justify it.

GroundedWisdom

They didn't. They paid for themselves to run it. For which they're getting free Maps from now on.

shadow_lurker22

No everyone should of gotten resources back and 6 and 7 players would get a choice to purchase tickets. And no if I put 2 million gold freeing the map up is not compensation compared to that but run along now you got more boots to lick up on

shadow_lurker22

And so are the people who have never ever donated get free map 5 so there goes your you paid for a free map 5 argument go spread nonsense elsewhere.

GroundedWisdom

Okay. This is going nowhere. Could have, would have, should have. No one donated anything since the Maps became free.

shadow_lurker22

No s*** Sherlock we are talking about lost donations before the treasury was removed.

Marvel2289

Uhh what, if you paid for it then how is it free? No the only people who are actually getting it for free are those who did not donate.
If our donations paid for "indefinite free passes" then why are players that never donated also getting said "indefinite free passes".

GroundedWisdom

That makes no sense at all. They removed the cost. People are complaining they get nothing back for a Map that is now free. I said if you wanted to look at it another way, you paid for an indefinite pass.
The bottom line is it was given to the Treasury for AQ. Nothing else. Not to take it back and use it for Ranking. I don't know many more ways to say it. All this argument over Gold that people already donated, we could have Grinded it by now.

YoMoves

Grounded all you do is keep reiterating points people have already contested with no new points to support your own arguments while failing to see theirs. Please think about your responses in future. If they do not contribute anything, please do not hit 'post comment'. If you are confused as to my reasoning, I will break it down, but you probably won't like it.

Thank you.

Marvel2289

The problem here is that all the people who didnt donate are also getting the indefinite pass, without having too pay for it like we did. I know it was our choice to donate, I'm just simply pointing out that our donations paying for our indefinite pass doesn't work when people who did not donate are also getting access to said pass.

shadow_lurker22

It was given to the treasury for AQ. Well EXACTLY what is so God damn hard to understand about this. It was given to the treasury before we even knew Kabam was going to remove it. If we had known we would not of put it in. Your arguments are so stupid how do you come you with this ****.

GroundedWisdom

"Just a heads up. We're going to crack down on loaders, so keep your Gold."
Doesn't really have a ring to it.

ChubsWhite

A few of y'all talking about it's silly to want resources back when these changes occurred. I make an alternative proposal which some also shoot down, obviously to just disagree.

We donated to run Map 5 (whether just enough or excessively). Kabam changed AQ, and made Map 5 free. The players received a number of tickets for AQ based on how much they donated individually instead of actual resources.

My proposal was for alliances who never plan to run anything higher than Map 5, allow us to sell the tickets for resources. We're never going to use the tickets, so it's an unusable currency.

ThatGuyYouSaw235

AQs that they don't run, henceforth they can't use it. Oh and no "sO rUN mAP 6 aNd MaP 7 hURR dURR" because the alliances that are complaining can't run either of the two.

If you're going to exchange something that already caters to a margin and give back something only a fraction of the margin can use. At LEAST make it usable for those who don't fit in the smaller area.

I'm not complaining that Map 5 is free, I'm complaining that they left the fraction that ran Map 5 with something they can't use is unfair compared to those running Map 6 and 7. Some people donated a fair bit to make it into Map 5 and now that everyone can use it, what they put effort into is now useless to them unless they move up, which is stupid.