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DAMN, THIS NEW HULKBUSTER IS....

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    Lvernon15Lvernon15 Posts: 11,596 ★★★★★
    DalBot said:

    People get wowed by big yellow numbers against a 4* champ (RoL WS)who does nothing special and poses no threat. In later game content HB will be a way down the line option. Nobody with sense is going to be clamoring for him in Act 6/7 or Abyss. He's great in the absolutely ideal matchups but for general gameplay he's meh. I wouldn't even put him as a Top 10 tech in this form and that's really disappointing

    Exactly, take him into rol or another generic matchup and yeah, he’s great, but take him into something that’s a real challenge and he isn’t doing much, not a champ I’d pick over most current tech gods for any matchup really
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    DalBotDalBot Posts: 1,616 ★★★★★
    Here's my Top 10 techs, would love to get thoughts on which if any he is better than:

    Ghost
    Warlock
    Stark Spidey
    Guilly 2099
    Darkhawk
    Sentinel
    Mysterio
    OG Vision
    Iron Man IW
    Doc Oc
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    Sunny2Sunny2 Posts: 183 ★★
    I think his r2 mechanism is alot like massacre. It will play better against better content where they are blocking more. Before you knock it try it against act 6 where ai plays more defensive and is in block more often. Its the same feeling I have with massacre. Bad against easy opponents and much better against tougher content. Its not that hard to get the sp2 off and then heavy chain in corner and repeat
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    Lvernon15Lvernon15 Posts: 11,596 ★★★★★
    DalBot said:

    Here's my Top 10 techs, would love to get thoughts on which if any he is better than:

    Ghost
    Warlock
    Stark Spidey
    Guilly 2099
    Darkhawk
    Sentinel
    Mysterio
    OG Vision
    Iron Man IW
    Doc Oc

    I’d put him above vision and maybe darkhawk and imiw, he’s not that bad of a buff, I agree it could have been a bit better but he’s better than those
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    DalBotDalBot Posts: 1,616 ★★★★★

    He's better than he was.

    That's like saying a Geo Metro with new tires is better than a stock Metro

    Is it not a vast improvement over the previous version? So sick of this community **** over EVERYTHING. It takes away from the instances where we complain about stuff that truly needs to be changed when you moan and cry over every little aspect of the game.

    They were given TONS of feedback on the beta. They implemented none of it. For all the hype and build up it's a massive disappoinment.
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    DalBotDalBot Posts: 1,616 ★★★★★

    DalBot said:

    He's better than he was.

    That's like saying a Geo Metro with new tires is better than a stock Metro
    That's an exaggeration. He's a great deal more useful.
    Fine, he upgraded from a Metro to a Ford Escort. He was one of the worst champs in the game. Now he's adequate to good, far from great
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,275 ★★★★★
    DalBot said:

    DalBot said:

    He's better than he was.

    That's like saying a Geo Metro with new tires is better than a stock Metro
    That's an exaggeration. He's a great deal more useful.
    Fine, he upgraded from a Metro to a Ford Escort. He was one of the worst champs in the game. Now he's adequate to good, far from great
    The buff has been live for what, an hour?
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    Sunny2Sunny2 Posts: 183 ★★
    His play style takes alot to get used to took me a while in beta. But so does ghost and alot of other champs. But his damage output is way better then half of those 10 tech champs u listed. I'd take him over vision, iron man iw, dh, mysterio, and sentinel. None of them have even close to the damage output hb has once u get him down.
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    phil56201phil56201 Posts: 970 ★★★
    DalBot said:

    Love all the disagrees without a single response as to how what I said was wrong 🤔

    Probably because we all knew exactly what his rework consisted of for months. And since he has been released identical to the beta version, this is not anything new to anybody.
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    DalBotDalBot Posts: 1,616 ★★★★★


    Who hyped it up? You? Who built it up? You? Every rebuild shouldn't have the expectations that they're going to be a god tier, game breaking champion. Re: beta feedback, whens the last time Kabam took any good feedback to heart and implemented it? Rarely. Not sure why you thought this time would be any different. Hulkbuster is worlds better than he used to be and will be a very helpful addition to those who haven't 100% Variant 2 & 3. He hasn't even been out for more than 2 hours and people are all crying and moaning. Get a tissue, learn his rotation, get more experience playing him. If he's not your bag, there's a ton of other champs you can play and rank.

    He is for all intents and purposes the same champ we all played around with in the beta. Stop with that "he's only been out two hours" stuff. We said in beta that his heavy was still atrociously short and impractical and that the resistances should apply to suicides/nodes. Neither were taken in to account. He's the same champ now with a few niche uses. He's a grinder through maybe Act 5 but that's about the extent of his use.

    When you poll the community and take this long to make the changes, there is an expectation that is set. We wanted a champ who is worthy of max rank or at least had ok prestige. He is neither.
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    Aomine_Daiki10Aomine_Daiki10 Posts: 1,636 ★★★★★
    Am not even bothered with his buff cause I never liked his playstyle
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    DalBotDalBot Posts: 1,616 ★★★★★
    Sunny2 said:

    His play style takes alot to get used to took me a while in beta. But so does ghost and alot of other champs. But his damage output is way better then half of those 10 tech champs u listed. I'd take him over vision, iron man iw, dh, mysterio, and sentinel. None of them have even close to the damage output hb has once u get him down.

    Cull Obsidians damage is way greater than those champs too, but nobody uses him for end game content or AQ/AW. There's a reason, damage isn't the end all be all of this game.
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,275 ★★★★★
    DalBot said:



    The buff has been live for what, an hour?

    And yet he's almost identical to his beta version, so that's a disingenuous take
    So you think it sucks just because they didn't make every change people suggested in the Beta? You are aware that's not a guarantee with Betas, right?
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    slackerslacker Posts: 772 ★★★★
    C'mon HB just get an update like less than 2 hours and you already jump to conclusion with such dramatic that he's meh, give him some time to demonstare his full potencial
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    Sunny2Sunny2 Posts: 183 ★★
    https://youtu.be/D8lLloSIfpQ

    Thats seatins take and it is pretty much the same that I experienced during the beta.
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    DalBotDalBot Posts: 1,616 ★★★★★
    slacker said:

    C'mon HB just get an update like less than 2 hours and you already jump to conclusion with such dramatic that he's meh, give him some time to demonstare his full potencial

    Again, he's essentially identical to the beta which we got to play for a week. It's not like he was radically changed post feedback. In fact, the only change is slightly more shock damage which wasn't really a concern of anybody.
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