that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
That’s what makes them a stronger team!!! Stop arguing that you deserve to rank above teams that beat you.
No. What makes them a stronger team is beating their own Wars. Not the strength of the Champs they're using. It's Alliance Wars. Not Alliance Rosters.
Once again. That’s not how rankings work. Skill plus strength. If your not strong enough to take on 12th place then you don’t get 12th place. You’re just too lazy to put in the effort that others ranked above you have and you want a cheap loophole to get easy rewards. Put in some work. Earn some respect.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
Because it happens to be the only counter in your battlegroup perhaps?
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
That’s what makes them a stronger team!!! Stop arguing that you deserve to rank above teams that beat you.
No. What makes them a stronger team is beating their own Wars. Not the strength of the Champs they're using. It's Alliance Wars. Not Alliance Rosters.
Once again. That’s not how rankings work. Skill plus strength. If your not strong enough to take on 12th place then you don’t get 12th place. You’re just too lazy to put in the effort that others ranked above you have and you want a cheap loophole to get easy rewards. Put in some work. Earn some respect.
Rankings work based on performance. That's how it's always been. In the system before Seasons, it was continual progress. Not because people owned their spots based on the Rating of their Champs. I literally never thought I'd say this on this Forum, but it's not what you have, it's how you use it. When the system makes it virtually impossible to win because what you're bringing is so far from what you're coming up against, that's a major flaw. Try hitting a bullet with a bat.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
Because it happens to be the only counter in your battlegroup perhaps?
Then you make better choices in the future. War is as much about smart choices as it is button mashing.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
That’s what makes them a stronger team!!! Stop arguing that you deserve to rank above teams that beat you.
No. What makes them a stronger team is beating their own Wars. Not the strength of the Champs they're using. It's Alliance Wars. Not Alliance Rosters.
Once again. That’s not how rankings work. Skill plus strength. If your not strong enough to take on 12th place then you don’t get 12th place. You’re just too lazy to put in the effort that others ranked above you have and you want a cheap loophole to get easy rewards. Put in some work. Earn some respect.
Rankings work based on performance. That's how it's always been. In the system before Seasons, it was continual progress. Not because people owned their spots based on the Rating of their Champs. I literally never thought I'd say this on this Forum, but it's not what you have, it's how you use it. When the system makes it virtually impossible to win because what you're bringing is so far from what you're coming up against, that's a major flaw. Try hitting a bullet with a bat.
Not on any planet are you correct. Nor can you give any evidence of any sport or game where that takes place. Answer his question. It also proves you wrong on the performance and skill part. But I know you are avoiding it because of that reason.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
That’s what makes them a stronger team!!! Stop arguing that you deserve to rank above teams that beat you.
No. What makes them a stronger team is beating their own Wars. Not the strength of the Champs they're using. It's Alliance Wars. Not Alliance Rosters.
Once again. That’s not how rankings work. Skill plus strength. If your not strong enough to take on 12th place then you don’t get 12th place. You’re just too lazy to put in the effort that others ranked above you have and you want a cheap loophole to get easy rewards. Put in some work. Earn some respect.
Rankings work based on performance. That's how it's always been. In the system before Seasons, it was continual progress. Not because people owned their spots based on the Rating of their Champs. I literally never thought I'd say this on this Forum, but it's not what you have, it's how you use it. When the system makes it virtually impossible to win because what you're bringing is so far from what you're coming up against, that's a major flaw. Try hitting a bullet with a bat.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
That’s what makes them a stronger team!!! Stop arguing that you deserve to rank above teams that beat you.
No. What makes them a stronger team is beating their own Wars. Not the strength of the Champs they're using. It's Alliance Wars. Not Alliance Rosters.
Once again. That’s not how rankings work. Skill plus strength. If your not strong enough to take on 12th place then you don’t get 12th place. You’re just too lazy to put in the effort that others ranked above you have and you want a cheap loophole to get easy rewards. Put in some work. Earn some respect.
Rankings work based on performance. That's how it's always been. In the system before Seasons, it was continual progress. Not because people owned their spots based on the Rating of their Champs. I literally never thought I'd say this on this Forum, but it's not what you have, it's how you use it. When the system makes it virtually impossible to win because what you're bringing is so far from what you're coming up against, that's a major flaw. Try hitting a bullet with a bat.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
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I see what you're going for there, and I meant that in terms of what people are working with in comparison to others, not that anything can beat anything with skill. Let's just stop pretending these people can win with "skill". The Matches won't allow a win, and we all know it.
I could argue it's lack of skill as well because if people can't win Matches against Allies the same strength as them, then they can't speak for other Allies that are. People are tired that they're not getting better Rewards from winning only half their own Matches. Do better.
Except you are wrong and lack the experience to know. I'm not the only one that has had two accounts and experienced the ability to win every war in a lower tier with my low account and be much more 50/50 in the higher tier. It's not that you can't win wars, it's that you can't win at an 80%-100% clip because you are facing genuinely similar groups with other skilled players. You keep telling people that they can't speak for others, but you are the one speaking for others even though you play 2 groups in silver, and the people you are arguing with have experienced War in both high and low level wars. You lack the experience to even know that you are wrong.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
Because it happens to be the only counter in your battlegroup perhaps?
Then you make better choices in the future. War is as much about smart choices as it is button mashing.
Ahh yes because we choose what champs get and instantly have them maxed ready for any scnerio, it definitely never occurs that you will face an opponent that your teams best counter for isn't the ultimate option. How stupid to try.
Again how about answering that question that provides an EXAMPLE SITUATION.. or is the reason you won't answer is because yoi know the latter is the more challenging fight and if you did admit that then everything you've been rambling about would be contradicted by something you say yet again??
I could argue it's lack of skill as well because if people can't win Matches against Allies the same strength as them, then they can't speak for other Allies that are. People are tired that they're not getting better Rewards from winning only half their own Matches. Do better.
Except you are wrong and lack the experience to know. I'm not the only one that has had two accounts and experienced the ability to win every war in a lower tier with my low account and be much more 50/50 in the higher tier. It's not that you can't win wars, it's that you can't win at an 80%-100% clip because you are facing genuinely similar groups with other skilled players. You keep telling people that they can't speak for others, but you are the one speaking for others even though you play 2 groups in silver, and the people you are arguing with have experienced War in both high and low level wars. You lack the experience to even know that you are wrong.
Yes. People who have high levels of experience make Alts with their experience, so they can speak for what's easy and what isn't. So valiant of them to go down and determine what is appropriate for others. Why not just open a Council of the All-Knowing and just decide for everyone what they earn based on what is seen as appropriate?
I could argue it's lack of skill as well because if people can't win Matches against Allies the same strength as them, then they can't speak for other Allies that are. People are tired that they're not getting better Rewards from winning only half their own Matches. Do better.
Except you are wrong and lack the experience to know. I'm not the only one that has had two accounts and experienced the ability to win every war in a lower tier with my low account and be much more 50/50 in the higher tier. It's not that you can't win wars, it's that you can't win at an 80%-100% clip because you are facing genuinely similar groups with other skilled players. You keep telling people that they can't speak for others, but you are the one speaking for others even though you play 2 groups in silver, and the people you are arguing with have experienced War in both high and low level wars. You lack the experience to even know that you are wrong.
Yes. People who have high levels of experience make Alts with their experience, so they can speak for what's easy and what isn't. So valiant of them to go down and determine what is appropriate for others. Why not just open a Council of the All-Knowing and just decide for everyone what they earn based on what is seen as appropriate?
My smaller alt account is much easier than my main because I don’t have to deal with the high sig levels as much or crazy nodes. So try again.
I could argue it's lack of skill as well because if people can't win Matches against Allies the same strength as them, then they can't speak for other Allies that are. People are tired that they're not getting better Rewards from winning only half their own Matches. Do better.
Except you are wrong and lack the experience to know. I'm not the only one that has had two accounts and experienced the ability to win every war in a lower tier with my low account and be much more 50/50 in the higher tier. It's not that you can't win wars, it's that you can't win at an 80%-100% clip because you are facing genuinely similar groups with other skilled players. You keep telling people that they can't speak for others, but you are the one speaking for others even though you play 2 groups in silver, and the people you are arguing with have experienced War in both high and low level wars. You lack the experience to even know that you are wrong.
Yes. People who have high levels of experience make Alts with their experience, so they can speak for what's easy and what isn't. So valiant of them to go down and determine what is appropriate for others. Why not just open a Council of the All-Knowing and just decide for everyone what they earn based on what is seen as appropriate?
You have no idea. You have only fought low level war and without even three groups. You speak what you don't know, despite supposedly being done with the conversation. You have never fought a high level war and make claims about similarity that come from guessing. You disparage actual experience while claiming that others can't speak against the experience of lower groups. You aren't an intentional troll, but on this topic you've become a troll nonetheless.
I could argue it's lack of skill as well because if people can't win Matches against Allies the same strength as them, then they can't speak for other Allies that are. People are tired that they're not getting better Rewards from winning only half their own Matches. Do better.
Except you are wrong and lack the experience to know. I'm not the only one that has had two accounts and experienced the ability to win every war in a lower tier with my low account and be much more 50/50 in the higher tier. It's not that you can't win wars, it's that you can't win at an 80%-100% clip because you are facing genuinely similar groups with other skilled players. You keep telling people that they can't speak for others, but you are the one speaking for others even though you play 2 groups in silver, and the people you are arguing with have experienced War in both high and low level wars. You lack the experience to even know that you are wrong.
Yes. People who have high levels of experience make Alts with their experience, so they can speak for what's easy and what isn't. So valiant of them to go down and determine what is appropriate for others. Why not just open a Council of the All-Knowing and just decide for everyone what they earn based on what is seen as appropriate?
You have no idea. You have only fought low level war and without even three groups. You speak what you don't know, despite supposedly being done with the conversation. You have never fought a high level war and make claims about similarity that come from guessing. You disparage actual experience while claiming that others can't speak against the experience of lower groups. You aren't an intentional troll, but on this topic you've become a troll nonetheless.
No he’s definitely always a troll lol. He always takes the opposing side to rile people up. Look at his dislike and spam totals. He’s done this for years. I’m shocked they haven’t permabanned him.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
Because it happens to be the only counter in your battlegroup perhaps?
Then you make better choices in the future. War is as much about smart choices as it is button mashing.
Ahh yes because we choose what champs get and instantly have them maxed ready for any scnerio, it definitely never occurs that you will face an opponent that your teams best counter for isn't the ultimate option. How stupid to try.
Again how about answering that question that provides an EXAMPLE SITUATION.. or is the reason you won't answer is because yoi know the latter is the more challenging fight and if you did admit that then everything you've been rambling about would be contradicted by something you say yet again??
No. You don't have Champs immediately ready. Which means you do the best you can with what you have, take your Losses, and work towards better counters. What we're talking about here is having the possibility of any Win being taken. At all. What kind of system allows you to lose before you even get to play? Why play at all? Just shuffle it, weigh strengths, and hand out the Rewards. Why bother putting 24 hours of effort into planning just to be handed a Match that's over before it's begun? If people think that's fair, they need to look up the definition.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
Because it happens to be the only counter in your battlegroup perhaps?
Then you make better choices in the future. War is as much about smart choices as it is button mashing.
Ahh yes because we choose what champs get and instantly have them maxed ready for any scnerio, it definitely never occurs that you will face an opponent that your teams best counter for isn't the ultimate option. How stupid to try.
Again how about answering that question that provides an EXAMPLE SITUATION.. or is the reason you won't answer is because yoi know the latter is the more challenging fight and if you did admit that then everything you've been rambling about would be contradicted by something you say yet again??
No. You don't have Champs immediately ready. Which means you do the best you can with what you have, take your Losses, and work towards better counters. What we're talking about here is having the possibility of any Win being taken. At all. What kind of system allows you to lose before you even get to play? Why play at all? Just shuffle it, weigh strengths, and hand out the Rewards. Why bother putting 24 hours of effort into planning just to be handed a Match that's over before it's begun? If people think that's fair, they need to look up the definition.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
Because it happens to be the only counter in your battlegroup perhaps?
Then you make better choices in the future. War is as much about smart choices as it is button mashing.
Ahh yes because we choose what champs get and instantly have them maxed ready for any scnerio, it definitely never occurs that you will face an opponent that your teams best counter for isn't the ultimate option. How stupid to try.
Again how about answering that question that provides an EXAMPLE SITUATION.. or is the reason you won't answer is because yoi know the latter is the more challenging fight and if you did admit that then everything you've been rambling about would be contradicted by something you say yet again??
No. You don't have Champs immediately ready. Which means you do the best you can with what you have, take your Losses, and work towards better counters. What we're talking about here is having the possibility of any Win being taken. At all. What kind of system allows you to lose before you even get to play? Why play at all? Just shuffle it, weigh strengths, and hand out the Rewards. Why bother putting 24 hours of effort into planning just to be handed a Match that's over before it's begun? If people think that's fair, they need to look up the definition.
Don’t play for a couple months.
For the last time, my Matches are fine. I'm talking about the unfair Matches others have to go through, and no matter how proud or cocky people get about it, it's not right. Not a bit.
Whoever came up with such a stupid match distribution strategy should burn in hell ... It would not be easier to create a system similar to any other sports system!?!? The way I see it now, the distribution is comparable to the fight of Khabib Nurmagomedov against a novice fighter who came to sports the first day or Manchester United plays against a yard football team ... This is a huge flaw for the Kabam and the kabam should be changed or many players will lose, the opponent must be selected according to the league in which it is composed and not of all the possible otherwise it’s nonsense ... The meaning of these leagues is now lost at all !!!!
It's just for a little while while the war ratings normalize. It's the way war always worked before prestige was added. You will compete with other alliances with a similar war rating who are fighting at a similar level. The current mismatches are only because the war ratings are skewed by the prestige system. The current system will allow you to play against other yard football teams or in the USA MLS lol until you are able to take on Manchester United. (Unless of course Manchester United decides to jump to a shell, but you can't have everything).
Yes, but so far it turns out that we are a yard team and are suffering a devastating defeat from Manchester United and others from the Champions League ... How not fair
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
Because it happens to be the only counter in your battlegroup perhaps?
Then you make better choices in the future. War is as much about smart choices as it is button mashing.
Ahh yes because we choose what champs get and instantly have them maxed ready for any scnerio, it definitely never occurs that you will face an opponent that your teams best counter for isn't the ultimate option. How stupid to try.
Again how about answering that question that provides an EXAMPLE SITUATION.. or is the reason you won't answer is because yoi know the latter is the more challenging fight and if you did admit that then everything you've been rambling about would be contradicted by something you say yet again??
No. You don't have Champs immediately ready. Which means you do the best you can with what you have, take your Losses, and work towards better counters. What we're talking about here is having the possibility of any Win being taken. At all. What kind of system allows you to lose before you even get to play? Why play at all? Just shuffle it, weigh strengths, and hand out the Rewards. Why bother putting 24 hours of effort into planning just to be handed a Match that's over before it's begun? If people think that's fair, they need to look up the definition.
Don’t play for a couple months.
For the last time, my Matches are fine. I'm talking about the unfair Matches others have to go through, and no matter how proud or cocky people get about it, it's not right. Not a bit.
No it's definitely all about you. You're too invested for it to be about anybody else.
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
Because it happens to be the only counter in your battlegroup perhaps?
Then you make better choices in the future. War is as much about smart choices as it is button mashing.
And what if that is literally the only direct thing counter in your bg? What if the guy that has a R5 stealth spidey won’t be available because of an emergency? Stop dodging the question lol
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
Because it happens to be the only counter in your battlegroup perhaps?
Then you make better choices in the future. War is as much about smart choices as it is button mashing.
Ahh yes because we choose what champs get and instantly have them maxed ready for any scnerio, it definitely never occurs that you will face an opponent that your teams best counter for isn't the ultimate option. How stupid to try.
Again how about answering that question that provides an EXAMPLE SITUATION.. or is the reason you won't answer is because yoi know the latter is the more challenging fight and if you did admit that then everything you've been rambling about would be contradicted by something you say yet again??
No. You don't have Champs immediately ready. Which means you do the best you can with what you have, take your Losses, and work towards better counters. What we're talking about here is having the possibility of any Win being taken. At all. What kind of system allows you to lose before you even get to play? Why play at all? Just shuffle it, weigh strengths, and hand out the Rewards. Why bother putting 24 hours of effort into planning just to be handed a Match that's over before it's begun? If people think that's fair, they need to look up the definition.
Don’t play for a couple months.
For the last time, my Matches are fine. I'm talking about the unfair Matches others have to go through, and no matter how proud or cocky people get about it, it's not right. Not a bit.
But you couldn't care less about the **** many of us had to go through for the last multiple seasons, which caused many good alliances to fold. That you dismiss with a wave of you hand because we should have done better. The important thing for you is the other groups you know little about have to face a few mismatches after seasons of inflated rewards. All the while you know nothing about either situation from actual experience. How freaking arrogant.
It’s funny how grounded asked to stop being tagged in the main thread because he was done, but will happily come and argue the exact same points (please get some new arguments that haven’t been countered countless times) in another thread either he same people...
that was weird... it merged my 2 posts... anywho... that should have said if you are in a 20mil ally and can't beat a 19.5mil - 20.5mil ally you don't deserve to be rewarded as good as a 10mil ally who CAN beat a 9.5 - 10.5 mil ally...
The fact that you believe a 10mil ally facing another 10mil ally faces the same type of challenge that a 20mil ally facing another 20mil ally shows you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Factor in higher champ levels, higher sig level, higher health pools coupled with the same nodes and time limits and you'll see the 20mil ally has a greater challenge.
Given similar skill levels a 5* r3/4 attacker facing a low sig 5* r4 or unduped 6*r1 defender is not equal to a 5* r4/5 high sig 5* r5 or 6* r2/3.
Also it's not that these 20mil allys can't beat them, often it's very close and comes down to 1 or 2 attack bonus for either side with can be caused by so many factors and not just lack of skill.
Did you forget to factor in the higher Levels they're using for fire power as well, or are you just comparing what someone else is working with to the larger Champs?
Umm did you not see that included in the third paragraph or are you just choosing what to read again?
Again, do better.
Do better... um bring something to the discussion that adds something, you asked and I answered.
Here's something you can answer, which is a harder fight, a 5* r3 stealth spidy vs a 5* r4 thing with a sig level of 20 OR a 5*r4 stealth spidy vs a 5* r5 thing with a sig level of 200.
An actual answer would be appreciated but I'm not holding my breath given your record.
Why would you take an R4 Stealthy into a Fight with a Sig 200 Max Thing?
Because it happens to be the only counter in your battlegroup perhaps?
Then you make better choices in the future. War is as much about smart choices as it is button mashing.
Ahh yes because we choose what champs get and instantly have them maxed ready for any scnerio, it definitely never occurs that you will face an opponent that your teams best counter for isn't the ultimate option. How stupid to try.
Again how about answering that question that provides an EXAMPLE SITUATION.. or is the reason you won't answer is because yoi know the latter is the more challenging fight and if you did admit that then everything you've been rambling about would be contradicted by something you say yet again??
No. You don't have Champs immediately ready. Which means you do the best you can with what you have, take your Losses, and work towards better counters. What we're talking about here is having the possibility of any Win being taken. At all. What kind of system allows you to lose before you even get to play? Why play at all? Just shuffle it, weigh strengths, and hand out the Rewards. Why bother putting 24 hours of effort into planning just to be handed a Match that's over before it's begun? If people think that's fair, they need to look up the definition.
No we are not talking about that here (WOW), what we are talking about and what the post of mine you started replying to was actually talking about whether a 10mil ally vs 10mil ally faces the same challenge as a 20mil ally vs 20mil ally... nothing else. Nothing to do with a low level ally facing an unwinable war.
OP I replied to stated that the 10mil ally and the 20mil ally face the same challenges when facing an equal level opponent in war to which I posed the question, that you replied to but of course didn't answer and now revealed you don't even know the context behind it, to show in an EXAMPLE that the challenge the 10mil ally faces against another 10mil ally is indeed not the same level of challenge the 20mil ally faces when against another 20mil ally.
Please go back and read and understand what the actual discussion you decided to reply to was about.
How does a troll get over 32k dislikes, marked for spam and abuse a combined 12.4k times, continue trolling, and not get banned??? It’s absolutely baffling to me.
I honestly would like to know the answer to this one myself...
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I literally never thought I'd say this on this Forum, but it's not what you have, it's how you use it.
When the system makes it virtually impossible to win because what you're bringing is so far from what you're coming up against, that's a major flaw. Try hitting a bullet with a bat.
Again how about answering that question that provides an EXAMPLE SITUATION.. or is the reason you won't answer is because yoi know the latter is the more challenging fight and if you did admit that then everything you've been rambling about would be contradicted by something you say yet again??
Stop dodging the question lol
OP I replied to stated that the 10mil ally and the 20mil ally face the same challenges when facing an equal level opponent in war to which I posed the question, that you replied to but of course didn't answer and now revealed you don't even know the context behind it, to show in an EXAMPLE that the challenge the 10mil ally faces against another 10mil ally is indeed not the same level of challenge the 20mil ally faces when against another 20mil ally.
Please go back and read and understand what the actual discussion you decided to reply to was about.
Seems legit.