Since most people don't read the entire thread, I'll leave this here yet again.
The old system was breaking progression levels for a lot of smaller alliances. What are alliances that are still working on their 4* roster going to do with all the 6* shards, T5b, T2a and T5cc crystals?
Those are Prestige levels you're looking at? My Alliance is just over 6000, and we are NOT working on 4* Shards. Not most of us anyway. Your assumption is wrong.
How you have not been banned from the forums is beyond me. You just pad your post count by adding absolutely no value to a conversation. All you do is cross you arms and make a face like a little toddler.
Since most people don't read the entire thread, I'll leave this here yet again.
The old system was breaking progression levels for a lot of smaller alliances. What are alliances that are still working on their 4* roster going to do with all the 6* shards, T5b, T2a and T5cc crystals?
Those are Prestige levels you're looking at? My Alliance is just over 6000, and we are NOT working on 4* Shards. Not most of us anyway. Your assumption is wrong.
Looking at the Season rewards, 6k prestige should land somewhere between Silver 1 - Bronze 3. Gold 3 at the very highest.
Having that many of them in Plat 4 to Gold 2 is just plain ridiculous.
@Gmonkey No because it's a lot of clicks to get the prestige of each alliance in each slot. That alone took me 2 hours to collect. But just looking at the top 50 in each tier was enough to show me how broken the old system was.
Combined with the fact that I had first hand knowledge of how the matches were lower prestige alliances lead me to create a post many seasons ago about this problem.
People couldn't accept their own Win/Loss ratio, so they decided to blame it on people winning more of their own Wars. Bottom line.
You can keep saying that, doesn't make it true.
Really? How many people here claimed they were stuck winning only half their Wars while smaller guys were going up? That's exactly the argument. If you win half and lose half, you're going to break even. If you're winning half and losing half and going up, something is seriously wrong.
Since most people don't read the entire thread, I'll leave this here yet again.
The old system was breaking progression levels for a lot of smaller alliances. What are alliances that are still working on their 4* roster going to do with all the 6* shards, T5b, T2a and T5cc crystals?
Those are Prestige levels you're looking at? My Alliance is just over 6000, and we are NOT working on 4* Shards. Not most of us anyway. Your assumption is wrong.
Looking at the Season rewards, 6k prestige should land somewhere between Silver 1 - Bronze 3. Gold 3 at the very highest.
Having that many of them in Plat 4 to Gold 2 is just plain ridiculous.
We're usually around Silver 1/Gold 3. Depends on how the Season goes. As for the Gold 2/Plat, they got there based on the history of their own Wins.
Since most people don't read the entire thread, I'll leave this here yet again.
The old system was breaking progression levels for a lot of smaller alliances. What are alliances that are still working on their 4* roster going to do with all the 6* shards, T5b, T2a and T5cc crystals?
Those are Prestige levels you're looking at? My Alliance is just over 6000, and we are NOT working on 4* Shards. Not most of us anyway. Your assumption is wrong.
Looking at the Season rewards, 6k prestige should land somewhere between Silver 1 - Bronze 3. Gold 3 at the very highest.
Having that many of them in Plat 4 to Gold 2 is just plain ridiculous.
We're usually around Silver 1/Gold 3. Depends on how the Season goes. As for the Gold 2/Plat, they got there based on the history of their own Wins.
A 6k prestige alliance should not be in gold 2/plat unless they can beat people of similar war rating. If they got there by circumventing hard fights due to low prestige then they aren't going enjoy this season at all.
So is winning half and losing half but continually dropping down. There are 2 sides to every argument yet you only see one.
I only see my own point of view because I'm not telling everyone else where I think they belong.
Again, misconstruing the other side. No one is saying "this is where you belong." Rather, the argument is that in order to get to where you are, your matchups SHOULD increase in difficulty as you climb the leaderboards. But this post probably makes too much sense to respond to.
You're not telling people where they belong. You're just telling them what they should go through to get there. It makes sense. It's the same thing.
Since most people don't read the entire thread, I'll leave this here yet again.
The old system was breaking progression levels for a lot of smaller alliances. What are alliances that are still working on their 4* roster going to do with all the 6* shards, T5b, T2a and T5cc crystals?
Those are Prestige levels you're looking at? My Alliance is just over 6000, and we are NOT working on 4* Shards. Not most of us anyway. Your assumption is wrong.
Looking at the Season rewards, 6k prestige should land somewhere between Silver 1 - Bronze 3. Gold 3 at the very highest.
Having that many of them in Plat 4 to Gold 2 is just plain ridiculous.
We're usually around Silver 1/Gold 3. Depends on how the Season goes. As for the Gold 2/Plat, they got there based on the history of their own Wins.
Our previous war was against the guys completed last season at gold 1 thus we did at gold 2. Don’t wanna describe everything about them; just know that Most of their main attackers were 4* maxed and r4 5*s. Surely they got demolished didn’t even make it to the minibosses. Now the system is changed and old system was never allowed us to match with them. It’s like in a parallel universe they were playing and being happy about and bragging “how skilled they were” Now kabam degraded every universe into one. Like it or not this is the fair one. If they are so unhappy and skilled (lmao) they can change their current alliances and jump into good ones, if they accept them with that lousy prestige.
I think you'll still see quite a few outliers at the end of this season. A lot of the upper mid alliances that have been fighting it out around Gold 1/2 will probably finish higher than they typically "should" this season. They're the ones that will probably have a higher amount of mismatches in their favor and will have quite a few wars with inflated points from opponents not clearing the map.
So if your one of those alliances that ends up with a very padded season score at the end of this one, you shouldn't necessarily assume you'll be there are even close to there once matches even out more
I think you'll still see quite a few outliers at the end of this season. A lot of the upper mid alliances that have been fighting it out around Gold 1/2 will probably finish higher than they typically "should" this season. They're the ones that will probably have a higher amount of mismatches in their favor and will have quite a few wars with inflated points from opponents not clearing the map.
So if your one of those alliances that ends up with a very padded season score at the end of this one, you shouldn't necessarily assume you'll be there are even close to there once matches even out more
I agree with this 100%. I think it will take 2 or possibly 3 seasons to realy level the playing field.
I think you'll still see quite a few outliers at the end of this season. A lot of the upper mid alliances that have been fighting it out around Gold 1/2 will probably finish higher than they typically "should" this season. They're the ones that will probably have a higher amount of mismatches in their favor and will have quite a few wars with inflated points from opponents not clearing the map.
So if your one of those alliances that ends up with a very padded season score at the end of this one, you shouldn't necessarily assume you'll be there are even close to there once matches even out more
Yeah, those alliances have a much lower war rating than they would have if they weren’t facing strong high prestige alliances, so it’s basically the same effect as tanking, this season is going to be all over the place until alliances get into their real position for their strength skill and effort put into war, those alliances getting matched with much stronger alliances they just can’t win against will place lower since they’re getting a higher amount of losses, it’s a great change for the long term, it’s just going to mess up rankings for this season a bit
I think you'll still see quite a few outliers at the end of this season. A lot of the upper mid alliances that have been fighting it out around Gold 1/2 will probably finish higher than they typically "should" this season. They're the ones that will probably have a higher amount of mismatches in their favor and will have quite a few wars with inflated points from opponents not clearing the map.
So if your one of those alliances that ends up with a very padded season score at the end of this one, you shouldn't necessarily assume you'll be there are even close to there once matches even out more
I agree with this 100%. I think it will take 2 or possibly 3 seasons to realy level the playing field.
Yeah I think a lot of the people saying things will even out after a week or two are way off.
I think you'll still see quite a few outliers at the end of this season. A lot of the upper mid alliances that have been fighting it out around Gold 1/2 will probably finish higher than they typically "should" this season. They're the ones that will probably have a higher amount of mismatches in their favor and will have quite a few wars with inflated points from opponents not clearing the map.
So if your one of those alliances that ends up with a very padded season score at the end of this one, you shouldn't necessarily assume you'll be there are even close to there once matches even out more
Yeah, those alliances have a much lower war rating than they would have if they weren’t facing strong high prestige alliances, so it’s basically the same effect as tanking, this season is going to be all over the place until alliances get into their real position for their strength skill and effort put into war, those alliances getting matched with much stronger alliances they just can’t win against will place lower since they’re getting a higher amount of losses, it’s a great change for the long term, it’s just going to mess up rankings for this season a bit
Not really. I don't see those alliances making massive gains in war rating once matches even out. They'll be back to matching against alliances their own strength and winning a similar percentage of their wars to before.
Up until now the wars my alliance has been in were equal in strength, prestige, alliance rating, and alliance war rating... we finished gold 2 because we won almost every war... and not due to matchmaking being unfair... majority of the time it was very close win or lose... i don't think ccrider474 should be annoyed that that other alliance was in the same tier... he should be annoyed that kabam does a horrible job at matchmaking...
If you guys think an alliance that wins almost every war deserves to be placed in stone, bronze, or silver because they don't have an alliance rating of 50,000,000... then you are morons... I'm not saying that an alliance shouldn't have some tough matches... but to give a strong alliance such an easy win?... what part of that is fair at all?... the real problem is that they don't have it set up to where low rated alliances can be in a different bracket than all the high rated ones... giving them an opportunity to make gold and platinum at the end of the season...
But in the end it's the way it always goes... kabam doesn't care about the game or its players... they care about the money... and the top tier alliances have most likely dropped some serious dime on this game... so kabam will continue to make everything easier for high rated players while pissing on the rest of us...
haha. You want to get P4 rewards with your 4* attcker bc you defeat some other 4* defender. Sorry mate. Thats not how it will be in the future. If you want that P4 you will do beat alliances in Gold 1. And I mean 30 million alliances as well.
A difference of 13 Mil. Try a 40 Mil with a 6 Mil like was shown here. Everyone keeps talking about skill like ANY of these Matches have a shot. Riiiiight.
@Seraphion nice job ! An alliance that shows they have skills at war and deserve to be in their spot.
thanks To be honest Im not sure if we are able to keep our place bc we have a kinda low prestige so we should have had easier matches in the past. But at least we are not gonna cry about it on the forum.
A difference of 13 Mil. Try a 40 Mil with a 6 Mil like was shown here. Everyone keeps talking about skill like ANY of these Matches have a shot. Riiiiight.
If you want even fights then you’re gonna have to drop in the rankings to where the others of your level are. Otherwise you’re table scraps for a better team that EARNS the rewards in that tier now.
Well thank goodness all the guesswork is taken out for everyone. All they have to do is work their tails off, and Players higher up can tell them what their effort is worth.
Well thank goodness all the guesswork is taken out for everyone. All they have to do is work their tails off, and Players higher up can tell them what their effort is worth.
Yep. Because they EARNED that right by beating the teams that you cannot while you STOLE the rewards from them for their hard efforts of growing their team and competing from the ground up by using loopholes of a broken system.
Well thank goodness all the guesswork is taken out for everyone. All they have to do is work their tails off, and Players higher up can tell them what their effort is worth.
Yep. Because the EARNED that right by beating the teams that you cannot while you STOLE the rewards from them for their hard efforts of growing their team and competing from the ground up by using loopholes of a broken system.
Ain't nobody stole anything from anyone. Both systems involved people getting exactly what they earned.
Well thank goodness all the guesswork is taken out for everyone. All they have to do is work their tails off, and Players higher up can tell them what their effort is worth.
Yep. Because the EARNED that right by beating the teams that you cannot while you STOLE the rewards from them for their hard efforts of growing their team and competing from the ground up by using loopholes of a broken system.
Ain't nobody stole anything from anyone. Both systems involved people getting exactly what they earned.
Oh no. You’ve sat here and insulted everybody who had stronger teams for days because you can’t win. Because you lack skill, a strong team, and common decency. You’ve told everybody that worked hard that they don’t deserve to be ranked above lower ranked teams. Now as somebody who has completed all in game content and had won all war matches at a much higher level last season while ranking below somebody in a 4 star alliance. I’m telling you that you ABUSED THE SYSTEM and YOU ARENT THAT GOOD
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Having that many of them in Plat 4 to Gold 2 is just plain ridiculous.
What we don’t accept, is the Tier Multiplier they are earning.
Combined with the fact that I had first hand knowledge of how the matches were lower prestige alliances lead me to create a post many seasons ago about this problem.
As for the Gold 2/Plat, they got there based on the history of their own Wins.
If they got there by circumventing hard fights due to low prestige then they aren't going enjoy this season at all.
WELCOME TO THE MCOC.
So if your one of those alliances that ends up with a very padded season score at the end of this one, you shouldn't necessarily assume you'll be there are even close to there once matches even out more
If you want to keep your place EARN it
To be honest Im not sure if we are able to keep our place bc we have a kinda low prestige so we should have had easier matches in the past.
But at least we are not gonna cry about it on the forum.